NBA 2K12 Player Ratings Revealed, Including All Free Agents

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  • Colts18
    MVP
    • Feb 2010
    • 1959

    #166
    Re: NBA 2K12 Player Ratings Revealed (Most of Them)

    I am saying that statistically Dirk's mid range was out of this world last season. Off the charts. The highest shooting % from mid-range since HoopData has been calculating shot locations. That is about 6-7 years now.

    We don't have hard data for Jordan, so it is easy to say, "Jordan woulda coulda shoulda."

    So I don't see the issue at all.

    Jordan didn't revolutionize the mid range shot. His was lethal but revolutionize, not sure I would go that far. But that still has nothing to do with how magical Dirk's mid range was last season.

    Forget the names, look at the results.

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    • Branflakz16
      Rookie
      • Aug 2006
      • 126

      #167
      Re: NBA 2K12 Player Ratings Revealed (Most of Them)

      LOL from DeMar's twitter:

      Damn <s>@</s>2ksports I only get a 69 rating? That hurts!

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      • redmondj1992
        Rookie
        • Sep 2011
        • 12

        #168
        beasley deserve higher than what he got

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        • ronyell
          SimWorld Sports Inc - CEO
          • Dec 2005
          • 5932

          #169
          Re: NBA 2K12 Player Ratings Revealed (Most of Them)

          everyones complaining about overall ratings & specific shooting ratings is always funny to me!!!

          OVERALL RATINGS TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ALL ABILITIES!!!

          some players OVERALL is low because they are good or great in only particular categories. in those instances they probably have a high rating in those PARTICULAR areas that they excel in (Dirk 99 mid-shot & 85 overall - Bargnani 67 overall & high shooting ratings)

          the overall is also weighted by certain abilities pertaing to their position. so softer, non-rebounding, face-up shooting bigs' overalls' will be lower than expected if they are playing center or PF because they lack the other skills tht are weighted to those positions. consequently if you moved them to SF you would see their overall changed higher due to the fact SF ratings are weighted by shooting & more athletic ratings.

          same thing goes for the guards that people are complaining about... Rose's OVERALL is high because OVERALL he has a LOT of great abilities (defensive, speed, quickness, iq, decent shot)...

          VERY ANNOYING when people think someone deserves high ratings just because they can score. (its a microcosm of the world & sports today... basketball is more than scoring & highlight dunks & blocks)

          tendencies & actual in game play matter far more than OVERALL RATING... play a game where Jason Kapono is left open often & watch how he will roast you just like he should... all while having a 64 overall...

          all that being said... 2k DOES seem to skew the hell out of other areas & ratings but for the most part i complain about the way they render tendencies (which is what truly alters in-game play)

          overall ratings affect rotation & importance in association mode

          tendencies affect in-game play

          if you want Brgnani's overall higher, ur gonna have to make him a MUCH better rebounder & post defender than he actually is & if you want Rose to be lower, you're gonna have to make him slower & dumber than he actually is.
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          • Colts18
            MVP
            • Feb 2010
            • 1959

            #170
            Re: NBA 2K12 Player Ratings Revealed (Most of Them)

            Originally posted by redmondj1992
            beasley deserve higher than what he got
            If he can jab step and pop mid range jumpers and drive to the bucket, why does it matter.

            What should he be and why?

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            • DukeC
              Banned
              • Jul 2011
              • 5751

              #171
              Re: NBA 2K12 Player Ratings Revealed (Most of Them)

              Originally posted by ccjj1010
              You mean to tell me Dirk has the same midrange skill as Jordan. A 7ft dirk should be able to hit a J over 6'8'' forwards. Nobody said Jordan is the best skilled in every aspect of the game. But Jordan revolutionized the midrange jumpshot. Watch some tape, forget a videogame.
              Don't act like Dirk isn't one of the best shooters (period) to ever step foot on a court. I would argue, yes, Dirk is better than Jordan at midrange and anywhere else on the court (shooting wise).

              Would you argue that Jordan is a better shooter than Ray Allen or Reggie Miller? Just because Dirk is 7ft does not take away the fact he is one of the best (if not the best) perimeter big man to ever step foot on a court and will go down as one of the greatest shooters ever. Irregardless of his height or position.

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              • redmondj1992
                Rookie
                • Sep 2011
                • 12

                #172
                Originally posted by Colts18
                If he can jab step and pop mid range jumpers and drive to the bucket, why does it matter.

                What should he be and why?
                he should be a 85-89 because hes a pure score can play both 3 and 4 has a shot and can defend sometimes...he will be one of the top players in the league if the lockout ends....

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                • Colts18
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 1959

                  #173
                  Re: NBA 2K12 Player Ratings Revealed (Most of Them)

                  People hear the name Jordan and just turn their noses up whenever anyone else says another player is better/equal to Jordan in any skill. I could say my father washes cars better than Jordan and someone would tell me that since my father doesn't have any rings that it is impossible for that to be true.

                  It is essentially speaking of God.

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                  • Colts18
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 1959

                    #174
                    Re: NBA 2K12 Player Ratings Revealed (Most of Them)

                    Originally posted by redmondj1992
                    he should be a 85-89 because hes a pure score can play both 3 and 4 has a shot and can defend sometimes...he will be one of the top players in the league if the lockout ends....
                    Beasley? 85-89?

                    You must hang out with him alot and participate in similar activities as him.

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                    • ronyell
                      SimWorld Sports Inc - CEO
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 5932

                      #175
                      Re: NBA 2K12 Player Ratings Revealed (Most of Them)

                      those who understand how overall ratings work ahould stop arguing with those who dont & if they REFUSE to read the posts about how it actually works... let them complain away & skew their own rosters.

                      some people just mainain arguments & overlook information to get their post count up.

                      we will continue to edit as we see fit... clearly somethings are (ridiculous as they may seem) are FAR more subjective than we thought
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                      • ccjj1010
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 42

                        #176
                        Originally posted by DukeC
                        Don't act like Dirk isn't one of the best shooters (period) to ever step foot on a court. I would argue, yes, Dirk is better than Jordan at midrange and anywhere else on the court (shooting wise).

                        Would you argue that Jordan is a better shooter than Ray Allen or Reggie Miller? Just because Dirk is 7ft does not take away the fact he is one of the best (if not the best) perimeter big man to ever step foot on a court and will go down as one of the greatest shooters ever. Irregardless of his height or position.
                        easy buddy, said MIDRANGE JUMPSHOT so stop right there. Your whole comment is pointless. Lets be honest Dirk had an excellent post season don't get me wrong. But pull up midrange, or jab, or anytime in midrange, Jordan is better then Dirk im sorry, my opinion. Dirk is a better overall shooter, including longer range but midrange. No way.

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                        • Colts18
                          MVP
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 1959

                          #177
                          Re: NBA 2K12 Player Ratings Revealed (Most of Them)

                          Originally posted by ccjj1010
                          easy buddy, said MIDRANGE JUMPSHOT so stop right there. Your whole comment is pointless. Lets be honest Dirk had an excellent post season don't get me wrong. But pull up midrange, or jab, or anytime in midrange, Jordan is better then Dirk im sorry, my opinion. Dirk is a better overall shooter, including longer range but midrange. No way.
                          What are you basing this off of?

                          Concrete evidence.

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                          • redmondj1992
                            Rookie
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 12

                            #178
                            Originally posted by Colts18
                            What are you basing this off of?

                            Concrete evidence.
                            what system do you play on send me your 360 name if you lay on 360 because i will cook you with Beasley

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                            • Colts18
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 1959

                              #179
                              Re: NBA 2K12 Player Ratings Revealed (Most of Them)

                              Originally posted by redmondj1992
                              what system do you play on send me your 360 name if you lay on 360 because i will cook you with Beasley
                              Oh I see, because I called you out on speaking crazy you now threaten to cook me on a video game. As if that dismisses you from your previous statement. Beasly has game. I am not denying that. But to say he is anywhere near an 89 just lets me know that he must be a friend of your family.

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                              • ccjj1010
                                Rookie
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 42

                                #180
                                Originally posted by Colts18
                                What are you basing this off of?

                                Concrete evidence.
                                okay buddy you win. Dirk Midrange = 99.00000% , Jordan midrange = 99. 34455223 %. Look at career 2 point percentage dude. ESPN.com

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