NBA 2K12 Player Ratings Revealed, Including All Free Agents

[Seamo]

Re: NBA 2K12 Player Ratings Revealed, Including All Free Agents

Am I right in seeing that Rondo's rating is an 85?? This can't be right.

[1Rose]

Re: NBA 2K12 Player Ratings Revealed, Including All Free Agents

Kevin Love an 81?? Dude gets NO love. For people whining about Boozer, the guy was absolutely atrocious in the post season. Showed how weak he was defensively, and couldn't score. If anything 77 is a gift.

Deng still getting no respect in his defensive attributes tho. Meh, I'll just update them with one of the many outstanding roster updates that get posted on here.

[J-H!zZl3]

Re: NBA 2K12 Player Ratings Revealed, Including All Free Agents

stats guys will tell you that Melo is more "Clutch" than say Kobe. and from a purely mathmatical % stand point he is. meaning Melo may make 45 out of 100 shots in clutch situations. whereas Kobe may make 25 out of 100 shots in clutch situations. so by this purely mathmatical pov, Melo is more clutch. but again that does take into account the magitude of the game or situation. 4ex when Lakers were playing the nuggets in the playoffs every yr, who was the player hitting all the clutch shots...Kobe or Melo. in 2008 when the Nuggets had the Lakers on the ropes and primed to go to the finals...where did Melo's ability to hit all those clutch shots go? yet is was Kobe who hit big shot after big shot to pull the lakers thru. you see what im saying about how stats cant tell you the entire picture.

The Lakers swept the Nuggets in 2008 and even the series in 2009 (which is what you meant to say), the Lakers were never against the ropes or ever trailed in that series.

Nonetheless, I do understand what you are trying to say. While I do not believe that Kobe's mid range shot should be as low as it is, as long as he plays like his real life counterpart, then who cares. Even though I don't use the Lakers when I play 2k games ( I run with the Bucks), if LA plays like they do in real life, I'm happy.

[Colts18]

Re: NBA 2K12 Player Ratings Revealed, Including All Free Agents

Am I right in seeing that Rondo's rating is an 85?? This can't be right.

Probably the best defensive PG in the league. Hish pass ratings. High athletic ratings. High defensive ratings. Need I continue?

Very strong points TajDeni.

[ffaacc03]

Re: NBA 2K12 Player Ratings Revealed, Including All Free Agents

Stats do unbiasly tell you what you need to know and that is that ... obviously there are circumstances that affect the outcome reflected on the stats, but there is so much that can be accounted in this videogame ... therefor, trying to compensate what is not accounted by altering the things that the game do specifically accounts for, creates unbalance ... also creates room for biase and ultimatelly creates the mess that the 2kinsider does with his edits which translates into a "less authentic" NBA experience.

Attributes should be the reflection of stats and is up to the user (or cpu) to try and mimic what is seen on the NBA and provide that subjective element into the equation with their actions, not by having screwed ratings.

Finally, all players must be under the same scale as a mean to avoid the same issues previously stated.

[Colts18]

Re: NBA 2K12 Player Ratings Revealed, Including All Free Agents

Stats do tell you unbiasly what you need to know and that is that ... obviously there are circumstances that affect the outcome reflected on the stats, but there is so much that can be accounted in a videogame ... therefor, trying to compensate what is not accounted by altering the things that the game do accounts for, creates unbalance ... also creates room for biase and ultimatelly creates the mess that the 2kinsider does with his edits which translates into a "less authentic" NBA experience.

Attributes should be the reflection of stats and is up to the user (or cpu) to try and mimic what is seen on the NBA and provide that subjective element into the equation with their actions, not by having screwed ratings.

Finally, all players must be under the same scale as a mean to avoid the same issues previously stated.

Well wouldn't that be an oxymoron? If the circumstances are different wouldn't that make the argument biased?

[teebee]

Overall means nothing; just look at each guys specialty and if its accurate that's all that matters

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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Not for nothing, but I'm not even a stats guy and I think Dirk and Melo are both more clutch than Kobe.

At the end of the day, I'm just a little concerned that you have guys like Drew Gooden that look like they'll be able to knock down mid-range jumpers all game long and basically play like Dirk.

[Seamo]

Re: NBA 2K12 Player Ratings Revealed, Including All Free Agents

Probably the best defensive PG in the league. Hish pass ratings. High athletic ratings. High defensive ratings. Need I continue?

I thought it would of been alot higher. In my opinion there isn't anyone thats a better floor general than him in the league.

[tril]

Overall means nothing; just look at each guys specialty and if its accurate that's all that matters

Thats what I was about to say.
folks need to look under the hood.
IMO, 2k does a good job with the overall rateings.
a player cant be rated in the 90s across every category,. that would be inaccurate.

[ffaacc03]

Re: NBA 2K12 Player Ratings Revealed, Including All Free Agents

Well wouldn't that be an oxymoron? If the circumstances are different wouldn't that make the argument biased?

I erroneously expresed my self ... circumstances are use to annalize what the stats reflect ... then again, in the kobe shot a less % than Melo in clutch situations example ... who was guarding him, how much loud was the crowd in those moments, etc ... are circumstances that explain thus do not deny the fact that at all.

As previously stated, there is so much that can be accounted in this video game ... the "circumstances" are only limited to just "off the dribble" or "in traffic" ... altering the stats in order to account for what it doesnt, is the same as altering the attributes to try and get a dessired overall: a huge unbalance.

[Colts18]

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Not for nothing, but I'm not even a stats guy and I think Dirk and Melo are both more clutch than Kobe.

At the end of the day, I'm just a little concerned that you have guys like Drew Gooden that look like they'll be able to knock down mid-range jumpers all game long and basically play like Dirk.

Not when you have modifier like Shot in Traffic and Shot off Dribble. I doubt he will have a great enough rating in either category for him to be overly effective. He makes mid range shots, open ones. He will be able to do that in the game.

[DukeC]

Re: NBA 2K12 Player Ratings Revealed, Including All Free Agents

Not when you have modifier like Shot in Traffic and Shot off Dribble. I doubt he will have a great enough rating in either category for him to be overly effective. He makes mid range shots, open ones. He will be able to do that in the game.

Consistency may also play a part in how many he makes.

I'm assuming all it takes is for him to miss a couple of shots before he gets cold.

[rainmaker2]

Really don't agree with these rosters. After bosh no one is even rated in the 70's on the heat? Chalmers is only a 68. They have the elite players ratings very high and the good players in the league too low. They need to balance the ratings out more.

[blanchard48moh]

Re: Kobe's midrange jumper. There are better midrange shooters in the NBA than Kobe Bryant. However, there are few who are more versatile in the midrange game. There are role players who have higher overall ratings on their midrange shot, but those ratings probably wildly fluctuate depending on the type of shot they take (off the dribble, spot up, in traffic, etc.).

In all probability, Bryant-like Dirk-should have little variance in his shot ratings from one type of shot to the next. That is to say, he might not be as accurate in his shooting percentages (or ratings) but it matters little what type of shot he takes. Kobe's biggest strength is not that he's the most accurate shooter, it's that he can take so many different types of contested shots with little fall off in percentages.