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  • K0ZZ
    The Hard Way
    • Dec 2004
    • 3871

    #61
    Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #3 Sent to Microsoft and Sony

    Originally posted by WKUTopper9
    If you guys want a cure for insomnia, pick up FIFA
    Fixed bro.
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    • BadAssHskr
      XSX
      • Jun 2003
      • 3542

      #62
      Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #3 Sent to Microsoft and Sony

      Originally posted by WKUTopper9
      If you guys want a working SOCCER game, pick up FIFA
      FIFA is Soccer.

      Football is a mans sport.
      "Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory."

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      • Jeremy7679
        Rookie
        • Jul 2003
        • 445

        #63
        Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #3 Sent to Microsoft and Sony

        Originally posted by BadAssHskr
        FIFA is Soccer.

        Football is a mans sport.
        oh for gods sake
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        • Phobia
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jan 2008
          • 11623

          #64
          Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #3 Sent to Microsoft and Sony

          I am no soccer fan but Fifa is way better that is just the reality

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          • khaliib
            MVP
            • Jan 2005
            • 2884

            #65
            Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #3 Sent to Microsoft and Sony

            What this says to me, is that they really don't know what has jacked their game code up so badly.

            They know, that we know, that when they tinker with one area of code, they usually alter another area (mainly negatively).

            So for them to have to have to go through Microsoft/Sony certification process, that usually means some serious code had to be altered (unless I'm missing something)

            They hyped up their Tuner Process as their "New Technology" that would allow them to adjust/fix/correct game issues to improve their game and prevent these lengthy delays.

            Why couln't this be Tuned instead of going through a long Patch Certification process?

            No-huddle seems more like a "Gameplay" issue that a Tuner should be able to fix/correct.

            So the fact that they have to go through certification "Again" for what seems like a gameplay issue, again says to me that they really don't know what's causing their code to go hay-wire.

            Last year they dropped a Tuner in October that had many deleting it because of the negative effects that made other areas worse, then they dissappeared until it was time to hype next year's game.

            This is the 2nd year in a row the community will get dropped like a bad habit after this Title Update.
            This is what happend last year.

            The one thing that we do know is that they are consistant!

            Just not in a direction most gamer's look for them to be going in!

            Come Hype Time around February/March 2012, we'll find out who learned their lesson!!!
            Last edited by khaliib; 09-28-2011, 03:55 PM.

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            • BaylorBearBryant
              Sic 'em Bears!
              • Jun 2004
              • 1536

              #66
              Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #3 Sent to Microsoft and Sony

              Originally posted by TDenverFan
              I don't find it to be a HUGE GAMEBREAKING issue, personally.
              I do. Opinions differ, but don't think some people aren't turned off by it. I haven't touched this game since I found out that tendencies are STILL broken.




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              • K0ZZ
                The Hard Way
                • Dec 2004
                • 3871

                #67
                Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #3 Sent to Microsoft and Sony

                Tuners are if values just need to be changed, i.e. incoming recruit ratings, player aggressiveness, effectiveness of certain ratings.

                If anything needs to be downloaded to add or remove code, than it needs to go through a title update.

                That's atleast what I've gathered.
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                • Cdog923
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 247

                  #68
                  Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #3 Sent to Microsoft and Sony

                  What about the glitches that make User Playbooks virtually worthless?

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                  • khaliib
                    MVP
                    • Jan 2005
                    • 2884

                    #69
                    Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #3 Sent to Microsoft and Sony

                    Originally posted by Cdog923
                    What about the glitches that make User Playbooks virtually worthless?
                    I'm still trying to figure out what's the purpose of this Patch that's for "ONE" issue with so many other things still handing out there.

                    A Patch for "ONE" issue!!!


                    Have you or anyone else seen/heard from a guy named "Tuner"?

                    He's supposed to report to duty ASAP, but has gone AWOL!!!

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                    • Bigten2011
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 19

                      #70
                      Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #3 Sent to Microsoft and Sony

                      Usually ALL patches have to go thru certification from Microsoft and Sony. But I see what you are saying
                      Originally posted by khaliib
                      What this says to me, is that they really don't know what has jacked their game code up so badly.

                      They know, that we know, that when they tinker with one area of code, they usually alter another area (mainly negatively).

                      So for them to have to have to go through Microsoft/Sony certification process, that usually means some serious code had to be altered (unless I'm missing something)

                      They hyped up their Tuner Process as their "New Technology" that would allow them to adjust/fix/correct game issues to improve their game and prevent these lengthy delays.

                      Why couln't this be Tuned instead of going through a long Patch Certification process?

                      No-huddle seems more like a "Gameplay" issue that a Tuner should be able to fix/correct.

                      So the fact that they have to go through certification "Again" for what seems like a gameplay issue, again says to me that they really don't know what's causing their code to go hay-wire.

                      Last year they dropped a Tuner in October that had many deleting it because of the negative effects that made other areas worse, then they dissappeared until it was time to hype next year's game.

                      This is the 2nd year in a row the community will get dropped like a bad habit after this Title Update.
                      This is what happend last year.

                      The one thing that we do know is that they are consistant!

                      Just not in a direction most gamer's look for them to be going in!

                      Come Hype Time around February/March 2012, we'll find out who learned their lesson!!!
                      GO PACK GO!
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                      Go Wisconsin Badgers!
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                      • Bigten2011
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 19

                        #71
                        Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #3 Sent to Microsoft and Sony

                        I think we need to boycott EA altogether. They have had good games in the past but it's just gone down hill. So if we don't buy any EA crap and they lose money maybe, just maybe they will get it thru their thick skulls and actually make a great game. And if they stop making these games then fine. Maybe another company will step up and work for their money. This is coming from a person who has strongly supported EA in the past. But they need to change NOW
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                        Go Wisconsin Badgers!
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                        • cparrish
                          MVP
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 1539

                          #72
                          Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #3 Sent to Microsoft and Sony

                          Originally posted by BaylorBearBryant
                          I do. Opinions differ, but don't think some people aren't turned off by it. I haven't touched this game since I found out that tendencies are STILL broken.
                          Same here.
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                          • pdiehm
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 1402

                            #73
                            Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #3 Sent to Microsoft and Sony

                            Originally posted by cparrish
                            Same here.
                            got rid of the game and got madden 12.

                            too many issues. Tendencies not working, overall player attributes were just completely screwed up (mainly blocking and AWR attributes, and then defenders had unrealistic agility and acceleration, to go with out of this world jumping and pursuit atts), and just too many other things that were bad.

                            Maybe one year, EA will work on making the gameplay better instead of adding more visuals. A tip: College football's heart and soul is the option, the blocking assignments are very different than those of say a power game, which are different from those of a spread attack, which are different than those of an air raid game.

                            As long as players have unrealistic attributes, you can't run an option game. Option blocking is a lot of cut blocks, which never happened until I used skillz' roster edits. You can't run the option when a 63OVR player, with 87 agility, 89 acceleration, 83 play recognition, and 84 pursuit (his AWR is 43) instantly reads option and sheds the blocks or the CB who should be dropping into a cover 3 zone, instantly, at the snap of the ball crashes into the backfield.

                            And I didn't even touch on the lead blocking from the FB which is a farce.

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                            • Solidice
                              Guns Up!
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 9954

                              #74
                              Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #3 Sent to Microsoft and Sony

                              Originally posted by khaliib
                              What this says to me, is that they really don't know what has jacked their game code up so badly.

                              They know, that we know, that when they tinker with one area of code, they usually alter another area (mainly negatively).

                              So for them to have to have to go through Microsoft/Sony certification process, that usually means some serious code had to be altered (unless I'm missing something)

                              They hyped up their Tuner Process as their "New Technology" that would allow them to adjust/fix/correct game issues to improve their game and prevent these lengthy delays.

                              Why couln't this be Tuned instead of going through a long Patch Certification process?

                              No-huddle seems more like a "Gameplay" issue that a Tuner should be able to fix/correct.

                              So the fact that they have to go through certification "Again" for what seems like a gameplay issue, again says to me that they really don't know what's causing their code to go hay-wire.

                              Last year they dropped a Tuner in October that had many deleting it because of the negative effects that made other areas worse, then they dissappeared until it was time to hype next year's game.

                              This is the 2nd year in a row the community will get dropped like a bad habit after this Title Update.
                              This is what happend last year.

                              The one thing that we do know is that they are consistant!

                              Just not in a direction most gamer's look for them to be going in!

                              Come Hype Time around February/March 2012, we'll find out who learned their lesson!!!
                              all retail games, game update, DLC, etc... for 360/PS3 has to go through MS/Sony Certification process before being released. Tuners are released through EA servers(and not MS/Sony), so it apparently can bypass the process. not really sure on the details why it can though, I guess the same reason why roster updates don't need to either.

                              as for the tuners, I don't believe they are used to change the games' actual code, it's only 'tunes' or slightly alters them. so they wouldn't be able to fix glitches with them(like the no-huddle glitch), but they could change the effect of certain things in the game(progression, recruit templates, etc..).
                              Last edited by Solidice; 09-29-2011, 09:59 AM.
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                              • khaliib
                                MVP
                                • Jan 2005
                                • 2884

                                #75
                                Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #3 Sent to Microsoft and Sony

                                Originally posted by Solidice
                                I hear ya. I guess the point of my rambling was this "but they could change the effect of certain things in the game(progression, recruit templates, etc..)".
                                Just like last year, they threw the use of Tuners out there giving us the perception that your noted issues and the etc's... could/would be done if there were things the "Community" felt needed adjustments.

                                Heck, they even marketed us with Tuners from Demo feedback to get a glimps at possible sales through Demo Downloads.

                                We all know how many feedback post were done and how many Tuners came out of that!!!

                                I just believe we as a community need to call them out on the usage of Tuners for this game, especially with how their other sports games have supplied those gamers with more frequent usage, but we can't because of TOS rules here.

                                For the life of me, I can't understand why they "REFUSE" to use a Tuner to adjust player ratings to the levels that GotMadSkillz and Playmakers testing have proven to improve gameplay areas that the Community is still begging for them to fix.

                                Folks have found fixes or improvements for them and this feedback for another year, falls on deaf ears.

                                I wish I knew how to do a Poll Thread, so they can see the numbers concerning gamers time spent tweaking/adjusting vs actual playing their game.
                                (Not that it would matter because they got our money)

                                Again, I know this is a Title Update Thread, but what's really the purpose with so many things still hanging out there.

                                I'm just arrived to the point were I really look forward to the day when another developer can/will bring the gaming community an alternative College Football game.

                                We have simply come to this destination.
                                End of Story!!!
                                Last edited by khaliib; 09-29-2011, 10:46 AM.

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