Madden NFL 12 Title Update #2 Details Coming Soon

[Chief_Macho]

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No question, and a few others from the Madden team left with Cummings whom I credit with taking Madden the furthest in this 'next gen' run. If that team had stayed intact I honestly feel this would have been a much stronger product. Key staff turnover is a killer, and Cummings was gold in my book as the lead designer. And he was VERY high profile and constantly communicating with the fan base.

I couldn't disagree more. Cummings did nothing innovative in his time at the helm and is the reason why Madden is such a average product in its current state. Who cares if he put out 100 patches if the product is garbage?

[SteboSSK]

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People keep talking about Ian Cummings like he was great. Where was he during the 07 to 11a run? Its like asking for dubya Bush back as prez bc Obama isn't doing as wanted...lose lose

[youALREADYknow]

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No question, and a few others from the Madden team left with Cummings whom I credit with taking Madden the furthest in this 'next gen' run. If that team had stayed intact I honestly feel this would have been a much stronger product. Key staff turnover is a killer, and Cummings was gold in my book as the lead designer. And he was VERY high profile and constantly communicating with the fan base.

If anything, he helped turn around an absolute train wreck that was handed down from his predecessors. I don't think he was the answer nor the problem to what's plaguing this franchise, but I appreciate the intentions and passion he brought to the table in the face of the absurd amount of hatred that was thrown his way on a daily basis.

He was getting NFL superstar backlash and criticism on a CFL salary. Not exactly a fair shake IMO. The rest of the company (EA) and team (Tiburon) should have to take on the kind of direct feedback that he received and then maybe we would begin to see some kind of change.

[scoonie05]

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I couldn't disagree more. Cummings did nothing innovative in his time at the helm and is the reason why Madden is such a average product in its current state. Who cares if he put out 100 patches if the product is garbage?

Why don't people realize that almost every game nowadays put out patches including 2K game's.??

[Gotmadskillzson]

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Why don't people realize that almost every game nowadays put out patches including 2K game's.??

No other sports game or regular game for that mattter puts out MULTIPLE patches in order to get the BASICS to work like EA sports games. Every year in Madden and NCAA we get 3 to 4 patches just to get the BASICS to work. But then after that some things never do get fixed and we get told to wait until next year. Then the process repeats itself.

Big difference between a game just doing the standard release day patch to having 3 to 4 patches released for your game EVERY YEAR just to get the BASICS of the game to work.

[skabatula]

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Why don't people realize that almost every game nowadays put out patches including 2K game's.??

2k takes a good game and make it great with 1 or 2 patches.

EA takes a bad game and makes it okay with 4 or 5 patches.

[kpkpkp]

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2k takes a good game and make it great with 1 or 2 patches.

EA takes a bad game and makes it okay with 4 or 5 patches.

HAH! AAAAHAHAHAHA!

*cough* *2Kbaseball* *cough* *they forgot check swings in 2K11 and didnt patch them in* *cough* *there were no errors or injuries in 2K10 and they didnt patch them in* *cough*

Oooh, excuse me. I didnt mean to break forum rules... I just couldnt stop coughing...

[dannyisastud]

HAH! AAAAHAHAHAHA!

*cough* *2Kbaseball* *cough* *they forgot check swings in 2K11 and didnt patch them in* *cough* *there were no errors or injuries in 2K10 and they didnt patch them in* *cough*

Oooh, excuse me. I didnt mean to break forum rules... I just couldnt stop coughing...

You really gotta go see a doc for that bad cough lol

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[treq21]

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Why don't people realize that almost every game nowadays put out patches including 2K game's.??

So what? i dont care if every company does it, its still BS to release a game that has tons of bugs like they do now.

[skabatula]

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HAH! AAAAHAHAHAHA!

*cough* *2Kbaseball* *cough* *they forgot check swings in 2K11 and didnt patch them in* *cough* *there were no errors or injuries in 2K10 and they didnt patch them in* *cough*

Oooh, excuse me. I didnt mean to break forum rules... I just couldnt stop coughing...

I was more referring to NBA. But point taken. Their baseball games were never that great (esp. compared to The Show the last few years).

[43M]

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No question, and a few others from the Madden team left with Cummings whom I credit with taking Madden the furthest in this 'next gen' run. If that team had stayed intact I honestly feel this would have been a much stronger product. Key staff turnover is a killer, and Cummings was gold in my book as the lead designer. And he was VERY high profile and constantly communicating with the fan base.

Not trying to hate on the guy, but I think Ian was overrated as the lead designer. Certainly better than they guy he replaced, but he got way too much love for not really doing all that much with the game.

He lied several times about certain features, didnt actually know much about football, and let be honest, Madden 11 didnt improve on Madden 10 at all.

Maybe he was handcuffed by EA, and I do give him credit for making SOME progress with the game and interacting with us, but the game didnt improve all that much under him as people act like it did. The game was riddled with issues every year under him, although it wasnt all his fault.

[roadman]

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Not trying to hate on the guy, but I think Ian was overrated as the lead designer. Certainly better than they guy he replaced, but he got way too much love for not really doing all that much with the game.

He lied several times about certain features, didnt actually know much about football, and let be honest, Madden 11 didnt improve on Madden 10 at all.

Maybe he was handcuffed by EA, and I do give him credit for making SOME progress with the game and interacting with us, but the game didnt improve all that much under him as people act like it did. The game was riddled with issues every year under him, although it wasnt all his fault.

It did become more towards sim with Phil and him, but there were still features broken.

[TeamBuilder]

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HAH! AAAAHAHAHAHA!

*cough* *2Kbaseball* *cough* *they forgot check swings in 2K11 and didnt patch them in* *cough* *there were no errors or injuries in 2K10 and they didnt patch them in* *cough*

Oooh, excuse me. I didnt mean to break forum rules... I just couldnt stop coughing...

Haha, problem is, EA was excellent at making Baseball, 2K was excellent at making Football.

They have the wrong exclusive licenses.

[Illustrator76]

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Haha, problem is, EA was excellent at making Baseball, 2K was excellent at making Football.

They have the wrong exclusive licenses.

Been saying this forever man. You are 100% on point with this comment.

[huskerwr38]

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Still waiting on those details....