Flexbone?????/

[timtime]

the flexbone is so hard....does it work for anyone...last uear i had great success.....this year it sucks......any tips??????/

[UKwannabe]

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Works great for me. Try the Flexbone Close formation. Be sure to use your Fullback alot. Most users like to get to the edge to much, especially on the option.

Good flexbone teams to try would be: Louisville, Clemson, WVU, Ohio St, LSU, and my personal favorite Penn St.

[WestMag]

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Works great for me. Try the Flexbone Close formation. Be sure to use your Fullback alot. Most users like to get to the edge to much, especially on the option.

Good flexbone teams to try would be: Louisville, Clemson, WVU, Ohio St, LSU, and my personal favorite Penn St.

You know the play of the front side DE dictates the give or the pull on the option right? If youre trying to use the Flexbone the way it is intended IRL, then yes its extremely hard. You don't have time to read the DE (should be reading the EMOL, but its always DE in this game) and when you do hold "X" to give to the fullback, alot of times your QB keeps it anyway(seems like the reaction in the game is always a half to a full second behind the button press). Blocking on the line and especially on the perimeter are broken too. It would be nice to accurately replicate what GT does on Saturdays this season.

[timtime]

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yeah you cant read the de....he makes both plays like superman......especially against good defenses the flexbone does not work.......also they dont go for the misdirection....there is always a lb in the hole waiting for me

[jhunt26]

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I'd try some tips on here for roster edits to get the option game to work, specifically the Real Assignment AI. You could do it all yourself or look for a roster that has done it already:

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...lay-guide.html

In short, Skillz puts all his WR, TE, and FB at 75 RBF, RBS, and IMPACT; then, he puts his pulling linemen (LG, C, RG) at 90 Acceleration in order for them to get out in front of the RB. I haven't tried this with an Option team, yet, but it did work wonders in the screen game. In fact, it worked too well, and I abandoned it

[jello1717]

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You know the play of the front side DE dictates the give or the pull on the option right? If youre trying to use the Flexbone the way it is intended IRL, then yes its extremely hard. You don't have time to read the DE (should be reading the EMOL, but its always DE in this game) and when you do hold "X" to give to the fullback, alot of times your QB keeps it anyway(seems like the reaction in the game is always a half to a full second behind the button press). Blocking on the line and especially on the perimeter are broken too. It would be nice to accurately replicate what GT does on Saturdays this season.

I don't run the flexbone, but I run a run-first spread option attack. It's been my experience that the read guy is (almost?) always the last man in a 3 point stance. In a 4-3/most 3-4s it's the DE. In a 3-4 predator it's the DE or OLB, depending on which what you're running. Against the 2-4-5, it's a DT. Against a 1-5-5, it's the NT. I don't run options (being a spread team and not flexbone) against 5-2 fronts, but on some 5-2 plays, all 5 linemen are down and in some plays, the DEs stand up. I'd bet that when they're all down the read guy is the DE, but when the 2 ends are standing, it's like a DT.

[FootballJunkie3080]

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As in the real world, your offensive and defensive schemes must fit the team. Im not sure what team you use, but if its Tennessee (which your logo represents) I can assure you, running any sort of bone (wish/Flex) is going to be a challenge.
Tennessee is not and never has been a finesse running team, which is basically what the flexbone feeds. With the way the formation is set up, to effectively "run" the flex, your wingbacks (backs lined up off tackle) must have a decent acceleration rating (at least 80-85 minimum). Whether you are running the option or the smashmouthy plays the bone offers, your backs need the initial burst so they can hit the hole in a quick manner. Especially if youre facing a blitz happy defense like Georgia, Florida State or Bama. Theyre linebackers and safeties are lightning quick. You wont stand half a chance in hell unless your backs have some getty-up go.
Someone else mentioned increasing the acceleration of your pulling guards. Again, a great idea or find a team with explosive backs and athletic linemen. Im not saying this is all fact, but after years of playing the NCAA series and real life coaching, its just a few things ive learned I hope it helps!

[SonOfEd]

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Yeah, the Option out of the Flexbone works great with the roster edits mentioned above, be it HUM or CPU running it. I dont like giving the WRs that high of RBS and RBF unless they are real big, but with a good Impact Block rating you get some nice cut blocks in the open field.

[PowerofRed25]

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I don't run the flexbone, but I run a run-first spread option attack. It's been my experience that the read guy is (almost?) always the last man in a 3 point stance. In a 4-3/most 3-4s it's the DE. In a 3-4 predator it's the DE or OLB, depending on which what you're running. Against the 2-4-5, it's a DT. Against a 1-5-5, it's the NT. I don't run options (being a spread team and not flexbone) against 5-2 fronts, but on some 5-2 plays, all 5 linemen are down and in some plays, the DEs stand up. I'd bet that when they're all down the read guy is the DE, but when the 2 ends are standing, it's like a DT.

This is fairly accurate with a few defensive fronts causing different reads. I find against 3 down linemen that the read changes from play to play. Usually, it is the DE, but there are times when the DE gets blocked and the outside linebacker is left unblocked.

When I ran spread option with Nebraska in my online dynasty, I had the worst time running the option part of my offense against a 3 man front. The smarter users would run a 3 man front against me and pinch the defensive line, letting their outside backers contain my read option, speed option, motion option game. It all but shut down the option part of my offense. Luckily, it made running HB Dive's, Draws, Sweeps and Counters incredibly effective.

Unfortunately for me, people would force me to throw with Martinez, which just like real life, is a 50-50 (or worse) proposition so I had to abandon the spread option. Then I broke his arm and lost him for the season, so I transitioned to a custom book that is basically a carbon copy of Osborne's offense in the 90's plus some Wishbone and I literally run 50 times a game, half of which is option.

I feel the read is MUCH easier out of the I and Wishbone. I have one Flexbone formation in my book, replicating the Double Wing formation we used in the 90's (which is now what Paul Johnson runs exclusively) but rarely run option out of it. Mostly tosses, dives and sweeps. That read is SO hard and inconsistent.

[timtime]

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thanks guys....by the way im using Ga Tech....im the oc....trying to get a job somewhere and implement my offense.....i messed with sliders some....it helped a little....ill try the ratings deal to.

[JakeReaves]

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thanks guys....by the way im using Ga Tech....im the oc....trying to get a job somewhere and implement my offense.....i messed with sliders some....it helped a little....ill try the ratings deal to.

I had to up the blocking ratings for my A-backs and my WRs; this made it much more realistic on the field. You should see Roddy Jones and Embry Peeples and Tyler Melton blocking in real life: they get people on the ground almost every snap. I use Tech every game; last year I didn't have to touch my blocking ratings but this year you are correct..it's much more difficult.

[Slaticus]

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One thing that has really helped me is running toward the one tech. Give you a double team at the point of attack and may allow the guard to chip to the mike. Another thing that helps is to be willing to check to another option play or even a full back dive. I have punished many many teams running my variation of a ground and pound option attack.