OS Roundtable: Does FIFA Get Enough Credit?

**statum71** · 10-04-2011, 10:25 PM

Playing FIFA got me interested in real life soccer. I enjoy the game. Looking forward to getting the new one.

**emelki1968** · 10-04-2011, 11:14 PM

Originally posted by airjoca

I'm European, I live and breath football (soccer) since my childhood.

I also love the NBA, and have no interest in baseball, so I can only compare FIFA to 2K.

FIFA is a very complete game feature wise, but its simulation of the sport itself pales in comparision with NBA 2K.

EA are making good strides, but they still haven't commited to turn FIFA into a true SIM game, like 2K is trying with their NBA title.

So sports game of the year for me will be NBA 2K12 by a good margin.

I am from Spain, and I totally agree with our comment. Also, Fifa doesn't get enough credit in USA, because in Europe they win a lot of awards and it has been considered the best sport videogame in the last three/four years.

**Adzs K2** · 10-05-2011, 06:21 AM

Originally posted by bconngemini

Does FIFA Get Enough Credit? If anything it gets more credit than any other sports game by a large margin. Its by far the biggest and most successful sports gaming franchise.

Its the best selling sports game of all time, and the 8th best selling game of any type of all time. As of June, 2011 FIFA 11 has sold over 15 million copies, dwarfing every other sports game. Madden can't come even close. The fastest selling sports game recorded was broken by FIFA 11...and surprise suprise the previous record was FIFA 10.

It's the most played sport game online on the planet, by a large margin with 1.8 billion online sessions for FIFA 12.

It has won 53 major gaming industry awards. It currently holds a rating of 92 on Metacritic. IGN gave it a 9.5, Eurogamer a 9, 1UP gave it a rating of A. FIFA 10 has won not 1, not 2, not 3 but 50 Sports Game of the Year awards.

Despite American objections, soccer is the biggest, most successful and most respected sport on the planet and FIFA is the biggest, highest rated sports game franchise on the planet. Not only that but FIFA is right among the biggest (top 10) games of any type. And it did all this with significant competition from PES (which is in the top 20 selling games of all time). No amount of anti-soccer bias from Americans will change the fact that humanity loves the sport and sport gamers around the world shell more money towards FIFA than any Madden, NBA2K and NHL combined.

Completely second this comment.....Just to add most Sports games reviews come from websites heavily biased towards the American market (this one included, although for the record the coverage here is excellent), for example most Europeans/South Americans/Asians/ World people(

) really couldn't care less about American football let alone Madden, but on many sites it is consistently covered and analysed to minute depths. If there was some kind of committee of sports reviewers who came together from around the world to rate sports games, Fifa and even PES's popularity worldwide and the popularity of the sport it portrays would have it right up there with NBA 2k etc, although like some other guys have said Nba 2k does do a better job of portraying its sport and is the better title

**Dazraz** · 10-05-2011, 09:12 AM

On the pitch FIFA is an outstanding game. The weakness of the franchise is in it's career mode & it's lack of broadcast style presentations. Although it does the job it doesn't carry the depth of your NBA 2K's or MLB the Shows so when the time comes to call out your game of the year FIFA has, rightly or wrongly, been swallowed up by other more stand out titles.

**bconngemini** · 10-05-2011, 10:44 AM

The whole premise of the article is also. FIFA has won more Sports Game of the Year titles recently than any other sport time.

Example:
http://www.gamespot.com/best-of-2010/genre-awards/index.html?page=8

Even when it doesn't win, its usually runner up, like at IGN:
http://bestof.ign.com/2010/overall/best-sports-game.html

**bconngemini** · 10-05-2011, 10:48 AM

Just ot hammer my point even further that FIFA not getting credit is ridiculous:

FIFA 12 smashes sports game sales record, biggest launch of 2011:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/321287/fifa-12-smashes-records-with-32-million-sales/

Guess whose record FIFA 12 broke? The same record set last year by FIFA 11. If you limit it to the US and look at a small pond, I'm sure Madden and NBA2K sold more and are big fish in a small pond, but FIFA completely DOMINATES them on the global market. Madden and NBA2K would kill to be in FIFA's position. FIFA would not trade its position with Madden or NBA2K or any other sports game. It's way above them.

**Da_Czar** · 10-05-2011, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by nuckles2k2

I say all of that because I agree with Kelvin about the state of FIFA, but how does it change? Where's the fans' input and criticism to actually get the game to take the next step? If everything is "OHHH WOW, I LOVE THIS GAME" then we're gonna keep getting the same game and for some inexplicable reason it just seems like the level of substantial quality in FIFA is acceptably sub par.

I loved your first post and to me it illustrates a theory I have.

When you get a lot of secondary fans of a sport or videogame. ( by secondary i mean its not their main sport, they don't know all the nuances)

Theyare more easily impressed than the core guys.

This is where you get arguments like This game ( insert userd primary sport ) should be more like the show or 2k ( secondary sport) Not knowing that there is some guy like knuckles who can see that the secondary game is jist as flawed as their primary.

If your not confused by now GREAT if you are I am too just forget I posted. LOL.

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**tril** · 10-05-2011, 09:41 PM

not a huge soccer fan, but man is this game turning me into a fan.
This has got to be EA's best effort in the sports genre. Kudos.
atmosphere, commentary, gameplay, graphics, and the all the nuances are on point.
This game is joy to play, and I beleive that stateside it doesnt get the credit it deserves, but that might have to do with the fact that the states still isnt huge on soccer.

**TomZeWolf** · 10-06-2011, 11:06 AM

Re: OS Roundtable: Does FIFA Get Enough Credit?

It's quite interesting for me to look at people from the US's views on FIFA. I personally think the game is way far from perfect, it's just about good enough to play. The Career Mode is a laughing stock, so many bugs. The collision engine isn't working as intended at all times.

As an absolute "soccer" (hate calling it that) nut coming from England, it really does fascinate me to see US people loving the game but for me I think it's vastly overrated. It's practically been the same thing gameplay-wise up for about 3 or 4 years up until this year with the addition of Tactical Defending, which has been a welcome addition but attacking is still pretty much the same thing

If you lived in Europe/UK, you would see that FIFA gains WAY too much credit because with it being the main sport over here it's more heavily scrutinized. But the game sells and I suppose that's all that matters.

KG · 10-06-2011, 09:38 PM

Re: OS Roundtable: Does FIFA Get Enough Credit?

It gets way too much credit because it's:

Easy to pick up and play
Has all the licenses
Has major back-of-the-box selling points

**EZ Esquire** · 10-07-2011, 02:26 PM

Re: OS Roundtable: Does FIFA Get Enough Credit?

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How many games do they sell...?

Most of the criticism is stupid or from ignorant people who do not understand the limitations of a video game. Complaining that the AI does not simulate real life is ridiculous. Or complaining the menus are not pretty enough is silly.

I think they get enough credit and they do a great job of presenting the best game possible for the sport. Most people recognize this. When they do something poorly they get called out for it. The collision in the 2012 is glitchy and everyone knows it. If player progression is a problem people will point it out.

However, there will always be a loud minority that complains about things that cannot be helped.

**Jolly Roger** · 10-08-2011, 01:34 AM

Re: OS Roundtable: Does FIFA Get Enough Credit?

Originally posted by TomZeWolf

It's quite interesting for me to look at people from the US's views on FIFA. I personally think the game is way far from perfect, it's just about good enough to play. The Career Mode is a laughing stock, so many bugs. The collision engine isn't working as intended at all times.

I'm American and I agree with this. The FIFA series has never captured the tempo and patterns of football. I think they've been able to succeed based on all of the team/league licenses they have. To be honest, that's a big reason I've always been a FIFA player rather than a PES player.

As silly as this may sound, I think EA needs to stop listening to what the masses say they want in FIFA and just focus on creating a proper football game, whether people like it or not. If that means you have to watch as the AI passes it around at the back for 20 seconds, so be it. That's what happens in the real game. That's what should happen in FIFA.

OS Roundtable: Does FIFA Get Enough Credit?

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