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  • thugnificant
    Banned
    • Sep 2010
    • 520

    #1

    I cant jump to contest shots ?????????

    This game is against blocking jumpshots. I time my shot contest perfectly and yet all i do is put one hand up???? really 2k? I cant even leave my feet and the shooter just knocks down the jumper because i cant jump?

    online on ball defense feels like sliding on ice, how are we supposed to play like this , is there a patch on the way?
  • rockchisler
    All Star
    • Oct 2002
    • 8290

    #2
    Re: I cant jump to contest shots ?????????

    Originally posted by thugnificant
    This game is against blocking jumpshots. I time my shot contest perfectly and yet all i do is put one hand up???? really 2k? I cant even leave my feet and the shooter just knocks down the jumper because i cant jump?

    online on ball defense feels like sliding on ice, how are we supposed to play like this , is there a patch on the way?
    Pull the left trigger to contest the shot, it wont block but it will contest the shot..
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    • thugnificant
      Banned
      • Sep 2010
      • 520

      #3
      Re: I cant jump to contest shots ?????????

      offense runs smooth online but defense is laggy and i shouldnt have to pull a trigger just to jump and block a excellent timed shot.

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      • WizardJay
        Pro
        • Jul 2010
        • 523

        #4
        Re: I cant jump to contest shots ?????????

        I've been saying this since the game came out. The contest shot suck on this game, it's always like a their stuck or something. Just defense in general is not good on this game.

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        • rippy987
          Rookie
          • Mar 2004
          • 103

          #5
          Re: I cant jump to contest shots ?????????

          dont know what ya'll talking bout, game plays great.never been happier with a bball game. learn to play the game.

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          • WizardJay
            Pro
            • Jul 2010
            • 523

            #6
            Re: I cant jump to contest shots ?????????

            Originally posted by rippy987
            dont know what ya'll talking bout, game plays great.never been happier with a bball game. learn to play the game.
            LOL. Hey your funny, i've been blowing the Cpu almost ever game i've played since i've learn the controls. Meaning that this year 2k favored the offense more then trying to balance the game out, so when i say the defense sucks in the game im not talking about mine im talking about the Cpu.

            It is way to easy for me too score on the Cpu even with adjusted sliders.

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            • Sundown
              MVP
              • Oct 2010
              • 3270

              #7
              Re: I cant jump to contest shots ?????????

              It appears that this year, block shot isn't really block shot. Sometimes your player will commit and jump. Other times they'll just lazily put up half a hand. I don't know if this depends on the player's defense, how far you are from them, or other factors, but it's aggrivating not being able to block when you clearly command the player to block-- even if it comes late.

              Last year the AI blocking assist favored you-- it seems that sometimes if you tapped the block button, but didn't fully commit, and (I'm assuming) your player's defense was good enough, it would do a non-committal half-block if your opponent wasn't actually putting up a shot.

              This year's AI assist seems to go *against* you-- even when you want to put up a block, you're still not allowed to block, maybe because your defense is too low, or you're not positioned correctly, or you're too slow-- but too often it just feels like the computer arbitrarily decides you're not going to block.

              Also, it feels like blocks lead to fouls a disproportionate amount of time. Has anyone been tracking whether this is realistic-- whether the attempted blocks that turn into fouls approximates real NBA percentages? It feels like 75% percent of my block attempts in the key turn into automatic fouls. Probably not that high but it certainly feels this way.

              At times it feels like any block attempt will either:

              1. Simply fail to result in a real block attempt.
              2. Lead to an automatic foul.
              3. Be avoided with an (almost uncanny) cpu pump fake.
              4. Be shot over like it wasn't there.


              Then if lucky, you might get:

              5. The occasional effective contest.
              6. A rare block (which I'm fine with).

              I'd like to hear opinions of those who are more familiar with NBA block attempts and results and how things should look. I'm more bugged by 1 and 2, because it almost feels like the cpu either artificially hampers you from trying to block shots or punishes you if you do.

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              • coolcras7
                MVP
                • Sep 2009
                • 2337

                #8
                Re: I cant jump to contest shots ?????????

                Originally posted by WizardJay
                LOL. Hey your funny, i've been blowing the Cpu almost ever game i've played since i've learn the controls. Meaning that this year 2k favored the offense more then trying to balance the game out, so when i say the defense sucks in the game im not talking about mine im talking about the Cpu.

                It is way to easy for me too score on the Cpu even with adjusted sliders.
                And what difficulty are you playing on and what team, and if your beating the CPU with ease and you are not playing defense I find that interesting.
                PSN=Coolcas7

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                • luckeeloo
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 136

                  #9
                  Re: I cant jump to contest shots ?????????

                  What's funny is that when your attempt to block is going to miss anyway your player will generally elevate and perform this super aggressive block animation. It's only when the code says "Okay, let's merge these two players for a cool animation" that you get the lazier half-attempt, soft contest, whatever you want to call it. And at that point the system tends to ignore your position and timing and just goes with percentages. And since blocks don't happen very often, you lose. It's out of your control, just numbers at that point.

                  Like I said, when you're not locked into the two-man animation you can get way up there, but chances are, the orientation of your defender will be screwed up and facing the wrong way anyway. You'll swat at anything but the ball.

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                  • PennyFan
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 117

                    #10
                    Re: I cant jump to contest shots ?????????

                    the ai the jump to defending shots either, another reason the ai makes every shot

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                    • Pared
                      Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 39337

                      #11
                      Re: I cant jump to contest shots ?????????

                      I said this in the demo thread - they actually added the gather in your jumping block attempts.

                      There are not many blocks on the perimeter. If you're in their face, use the hands up via the RS.

                      You have to unlearn your usage of the Y button this year.

                      It's a welcome REALISTIC addition, even if it is frustrating in a video game sense.

                      Oh you can DEFINITELY do some nasty blocks on the perimeter. I was playing someone from here and I timed their fadeaway PERFECTLY and Melo did this really nasty block that sent the ball into the stands. Only have seen it once though - you can tell it was a reward animation for perfect timing.
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                      • jin192
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 35

                        #12
                        Re: I cant jump to contest shots ?????????

                        i blocked a player doing the post fade, dam aint it feel good,

                        i think it was impossible to block the post fade in 2k11, i have never done it before

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                        • coolcras7
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 2337

                          #13
                          Re: I cant jump to contest shots ?????????

                          Yeah I have had some great blocks in this game, Like Pared said you have to be in the correct position to jump, you can't be moving around and expect the defender to just magically gather to fully elevate, raising your hands to pressure the shooter is a good alternative and avoids unnecessary fouls.
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                          • mrprice33
                            Just some guy
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 5986

                            #14
                            Originally posted by WizardJay
                            LOL. Hey your funny, i've been blowing the Cpu
                            What an unfortunate error.

                            I've noticed close outs on shooters being a little slow, but I haven't used the RS to contest.

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                            • Zen_Master07
                              Banned
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 361

                              #15
                              Re: I cant jump to contest shots ?????????

                              Originally posted by Pared
                              I said this in the demo thread - they actually added the gather in your jumping block attempts.

                              There are not many blocks on the perimeter. If you're in their face, use the hands up via the RS.

                              You have to unlearn your usage of the Y button this year.

                              It's a welcome REALISTIC addition, even if it is frustrating in a video game sense.

                              Oh you can DEFINITELY do some nasty blocks on the perimeter. I was playing someone from here and I timed their fadeaway PERFECTLY and Melo did this really nasty block that sent the ball into the stands. Only have seen it once though - you can tell it was a reward animation for perfect timing.
                              This, just use the RS and point it towards the player. 2k gave us the ability to have our hands up and move this year, making contesting better but still being able to block off a drive.

                              And on a slightly related note, i love how guys like Dwight and Noah swat at everything, i swear they have signature blocking animations

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