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  • Palo20
    MVP
    • Dec 2006
    • 3908

    #181
    Re: Madden 12 Patch Details Released

    Originally posted by Giants4Natic
    I personally do not play more then one season of Madden

    I play every game on the NFL schedule and follow real life injuries

    After playing all games of the 2011-2012 NFL season, that leaves me no time to start a second season which I would not anyway since I would be close to the new Madden by then
    You keep current with the real winnng teams too? Duplicate the playoffs?
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    • 89OneHanded
      Rookie
      • Sep 2010
      • 184

      #182
      Re: Madden NFL 12 Title Update #2 Details

      I'm glad they fixed the rain issue, and I'm glad they fixed the quarters safeties read/reacting to the run. I'm especially glad I can edit players without losing all of their roles. However, I really wish they would have fixed the AI decision making, not just on cut days, but throughout the entire offline franchise. It is extremely frustrating controlling all 32 teams. It's also frustrating they spent half the patch on Madden Ultimate Team... is that like a trading card game? Wait, better question. Who cares? Get that garbage off of the game and use the memory you free up to fix the idiotic AI. Fix deep ball defender reactions, finesse pass rushing, CPU play calling, CPU roster management. Fix the UDFA cut day problem. Fix the imported draft class problem. Stop wasting your time (and our time) on card games and FIX THE ACTUAL FOOTBALL GAME. kthx.
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      • yevinorion
        Rookie
        • Sep 2011
        • 43

        #183
        If this really does fix the freezes I get sometimes when loading back into the Franchise/Superstar menu after a game, then it will be worth it for that alone. Happy with those couple Franchise fixes as that's the main mode I play, but my main thing is those damn freezes. Sucks to lose a whole game of progress.

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        • EntroMak24
          Rookie
          • Sep 2010
          • 28

          #184
          Re: Madden NFL 12 Title Update #2 Details

          Originally posted by Armor & Sword
          Sheesh.

          Seriously.

          If the passing stats....I am talking about TD's, yards, INT's look solid (and they do IMO) who cares about this? really...what difference in the grand scheme of things does this make?

          It is a video game with human influence on the perfromance of virtual players.

          I don't understand this with football games.

          Baseball......totally a different animal. Stats drive baseball. It is what baseball is all about.

          Football is about winning and no one cares how you win.....just win baby (RIP AL).

          Baseball stats are directly corrleated to wins and losses and who the playoff teams are in the end for the most part. Same with Basketball. But Football? Man I can't tell how many times stat's never tell the story of the game.

          I guess my point is....if this stat "completion %" is ruining what I feel is a great and fun game of console football. That sucks for you.

          But if this is the most important thing to you.....hey it is what it is. Meantime the game is a blast to play.

          I am very happy this patch is not making wholesale changes to gameplay which by all accounts for me personally has been steller for a Madden game.
          you are right in that we enjoy the game in different ways. I love the game of football and the fun in madden for me is to create or sim what could realistically happen in the future. Completion % is an important aspect of QB ratings, it affects this stat as well. Qb's, even the mediocre ones complete over 60% of their passes. Only a select few QB's even make it below 60%. its not realistic to me and therefore sucks a large portion out of the enjoyment of the game.

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          • CRMosier_LM
            Banned
            • Jul 2009
            • 2061

            #185
            Re: Madden NFL 12 Title Update #2 Details

            Rain fix was all I needed! Out of 7 online franchise games 6 have been in a monsoon! Lots of drops, fumbles, errant passes, wr falling all over... Good stuff. I like rain 3-4 times a season but not every game.

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            • bigdfan76
              Pro
              • Sep 2008
              • 655

              #186
              Re: Madden NFL 12 Title Update #2 Details

              Any word on when we can expect the patch to be released?
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              • NFCastle
                MVP
                • Sep 2011
                • 1096

                #187
                Cool, they didn't fix anything that RUINS franchise mode like the UDFA logic, or the appearance issues...just to name a few.
                *AKA NFC3PO on the Madden Modding Discord*

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                • roadman
                  *ll St*r
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 26339

                  #188
                  Re: Madden NFL 12 Title Update #2 Details

                  Originally posted by 89OneHanded
                  I'm glad they fixed the rain issue, and I'm glad they fixed the quarters safeties read/reacting to the run. I'm especially glad I can edit players without losing all of their roles. However, I really wish they would have fixed the AI decision making, not just on cut days, but throughout the entire offline franchise. It is extremely frustrating controlling all 32 teams. It's also frustrating they spent half the patch on Madden Ultimate Team... is that like a trading card game? Wait, better question. Who cares? Get that garbage off of the game and use the memory you free up to fix the idiotic AI. Fix deep ball defender reactions, finesse pass rushing, CPU play calling, CPU roster management. Fix the UDFA cut day problem. Fix the imported draft class problem. Stop wasting your time (and our time) on card games and FIX THE ACTUAL FOOTBALL GAME. kthx.
                  Sorry, I don't play with MUT, either, but it's not going anywhere. It's a money maker for them.

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                  • Pandetta
                    Pro
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 854

                    #189
                    Re: Madden NFL 12 Title Update #2 Details

                    Originally posted by roadman
                    Sorry, I don't play with MUT, either, but it's not going anywhere. It's a money maker for them.
                    MUT would be a million times more popular if you could play with the players in actual games/import them into your offline franchises etc like people have asked about since the beginning.

                    Instead 75% of the people hate it, but enough buy into it to keep it around and the majority unhappy about it.

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                    • bichettehappens
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 2547

                      #190
                      Originally posted by Pandetta
                      MUT would be a million times more popular if you could play with the players in actual games/import them into your offline franchises etc like people have asked about since the beginning.

                      Instead 75% of the people hate it, but enough buy into it to keep it around and the majority unhappy about it.
                      Wait, you don't even play actual games in MUT? Am I reading that correctly? I never ventured into the mode because even the surface idea sounds lame to me but I assumed you could at least play with the players who's card you have.

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                      • bichettehappens
                        MVP
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 2547

                        #191
                        Originally posted by NFCastle
                        Cool, they didn't fix anything that RUINS franchise mode like the UDFA logic, or the appearance issues...just to name a few.
                        While I agree they should fix those as well (haven't encountered appearance issues yet), I think game freezes and rain every game do more to ruin the mode, at least in my opinion since there's no work around for freezes/rain (short of picking a dome or unaffected team), whereas UDFA has a [tedious] work around and appearance issues are cosmetic.

                        Hopefully they get around to fixing both of those, though. My first exposure to the appearance issues was in a thread yesterday and it looked pretty ridiculous lol

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                        • bigdfan76
                          Pro
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 655

                          #192
                          Re: Madden 12 Patch Details Released

                          Originally posted by LionsFanNJ
                          overexaggerated issue.

                          as for the details THANK YOU BASED GAWD they fixed the field textures and playbooks.
                          Concerning the UFAs fictional players "flooding" the franchise...


                          I'm curious... Not an issue you say? How so? I'll admit I have not simmed ahead enough to know myself. I'm going off what I had read before. Any insight would be appreciated, thanks.
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                          • FedExPope
                            Pro
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 900

                            #193
                            Re: Madden NFL 12 Title Update #2 Details

                            This is all well and good but the awful QB sim stats and the awful QB AI are being completely ignored here. Probably my biggest peeve with the game since I don't do online sports games.

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                            • cletusdog
                              Rookie
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 251

                              #194
                              Re: Madden NFL 12 Title Update #2 Details

                              Who does play MUT? It's a money maker if people are using it, but...
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                              • Legionnaire
                                Rookie
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 220

                                #195
                                Re: Madden NFL 12 Title Update #2 Details

                                Originally posted by youALREADYknow
                                The CPU AI (simulated) is making outright foolish decisions consistently (not sporadically) with UDFA's and young talented players with upside.
                                Yeah, the computer has trouble. So much trouble it's kind of weird they left the expanded rosters and cut-day features in the game, frankly.

                                Seems it's because they don't understand there's a difference between a firm overall rating and an overall with a question mark behind it.

                                When I first noticed the problem, I thought I had to spend hours at the beginning of Year 2's Preseason going team to team, editing all their undrafted rookies to be punters (so the their ratings would tank and the team would cut them, or at least never stick them on their depth chart at serious positions with the mistaken belief that they could ever be counted on to play offense or defense).

                                Lately, I've scaled back. I can't handle the time it wastes having to edit 10-20 undrafted rookies per team. That's just too much. So now I go into free agency and sign quality veterans and trade them to computer teams. Just to help the process (relieve them of their undrafted players at the same time as I help bolster their rosters by placing good free agents with teams where they're a good fit). I'll trade a team 1 good veteran free agent for 3 of their awful undrafted rookies. I do this with anybody who is too good to waste away in free agency. Then I'll go through and edit some of the rookies on CPU teams to punter. The idea isn't to waste a day editing hundreds of players so the CPU no longer has to make any decisions on its own. The idea now is to just get computer teams in a position where they can make it through a week or two of cuts (cutting guys I edited to be punters) so that after a couple weeks they'll have gained more knowledge about their rookies so they can then start making more reasonable decisions on cut days because they no longer think their rookies are awesome when they're actually trash.

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