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  • rdubbs40
    Rookie
    • Aug 2011
    • 325

    #91
    Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #4 Is In The Works

    I am so sick of superlinebackers and cornerbacks that cover two receivers at the same time

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    • COACH WEBB
      Rookie
      • May 2010
      • 353

      #92
      Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #4 Is In The Works

      Originally posted by rdubbs40
      I am so sick of superlinebackers and cornerbacks that cover two receivers at the same time
      What do you mean here? Because I'm a former football player and a current football coach and a cornerback can cover 2 wrs at a time. Not in man coverage of course, but in zone. For example, in cover 3 if a cover has 2 wrs running verticals, he can cover them. What he does is split the difference between them (run in-between WRS) and he's able to cover both of them.
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      • PowerofRed25
        MVP
        • Jul 2011
        • 1507

        #93
        Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #4 Is In The Works

        Originally posted by COACH WEBB
        What do you mean here? Because I'm a former football player and a current football coach and a cornerback can cover 2 wrs at a time. Not in man coverage of course, but in zone. For example, in cover 3 if a cover has 2 wrs running verticals, he can cover them. What he does is split the difference between them (run in-between WRS) and he's able to cover both of them.
        I think he means corners in man coverage who break off their man coverage the second the ball is in the air, despite not being able to see the ball or the intended receiver. They just "know" where the ball is.

        It is a pretty significant problem on crossing routes, combo routes (post/corner combos) and vertical routes that are close together. I notice it a ton lately now that I switched to air raid. I ran a mesh concept last night against man to man coverage, as the WR's crossed, I threw to the backside mesh WR and the DB on the strong side mesh WR knocked it down despite running the opposite direction. He stopped, turned and slapped it away despite being able to see the pass or the receiver.

        I see this more in verticals though, where you'll throw one of the vertical routes and while the ball is in the air, the DB on the other vertical will leave his guy and play the ball despite not being able to see it.

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        • DreadedSteeler
          Pro
          • Aug 2005
          • 661

          #94
          Re: Title update #4 is in the works

          Originally posted by GoBlue10
          I agree 100%. I'm a hardcore NCAA guy, but this game gets worse every patch that is released. I don't understand why they can't release a game and live with the results.
          Not sure if it is getting worse for me, but definitely more and more frustrating knowing it is time to tweak sliders again every few weeks. Knowing a 4th patch is on the way i'm considering whether I should keep tweaking or just shelve the game till the final patch or tuner is released.

          I didn't want to download this latest one, but in order to upload my highlights I was forced to. Really wish there was a way to pick and choose the patches and tuners we want or at least an option available to reinstall the previous version.

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          • BlastX21
            MVP
            • Jul 2010
            • 2118

            #95
            Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #4 Is In The Works

            Originally posted by PowerofRed25
            I think he means corners in man coverage who break off their man coverage the second the ball is in the air, despite not being able to see the ball or the intended receiver. They just "know" where the ball is.

            It is a pretty significant problem on crossing routes, combo routes (post/corner combos) and vertical routes that are close together. I notice it a ton lately now that I switched to air raid. I ran a mesh concept last night against man to man coverage, as the WR's crossed, I threw to the backside mesh WR and the DB on the strong side mesh WR knocked it down despite running the opposite direction. He stopped, turned and slapped it away despite being able to see the pass or the receiver.

            I see this more in verticals though, where you'll throw one of the vertical routes and while the ball is in the air, the DB on the other vertical will leave his guy and play the ball despite not being able to see it.
            This explains it perfectly.

            Its not just DB's by the way. Once you throw the ball, everyone on the D starts running to it, whether they saw the ball thrown or not. The problem is that the offensive players don't do the same thing. There's a significant lag between the time the ball is thrown to the time the receivers react and start trying to block people. Whereas the D magically knows where the ball is the second it goes out of the QB's hands.
            Originally posted by Kaiser Wilhelm
            there should not be ties occurring in the NFL except when neither team wins the game.

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            • xaiw
              Rookie
              • Aug 2011
              • 18

              #96
              how do i get the patch to download or how can i tell if ive already gotten it cause honestly if i did get a patch ncaa 12 still is garbage....?

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              • rspencer86
                MIB Crew
                • Sep 2004
                • 8807

                #97
                Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #4 Is In The Works

                To everyone saying this is taking away time from NCAA 13 development... wouldn't they have to fix these issues anyway?
                Ryan Spencer

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                • steelersfan77
                  Banned
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 483

                  #98
                  Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #4 Is In The Works

                  Originally posted by rdubbs40
                  I am so sick of superlinebackers and cornerbacks that cover two receivers at the same time
                  Haha, me to and I fully expect to still see it in '13. That's the worst part. When was the last time this game didn't have super linebackers that could swat anything out of the air like Shaq? The ball tradectory is terrible in this game. I think they need to make the field, the football and the players on the field more proportinal. It's way off. I'll try to find an example somewhere and post a picture of a real life aerial shot from behind the offense and one that's showed in '12 and every other football game EA has made. It's alarming. I know it's just a game but this is something that should've been thought of the day this game was it development mode. The foundation.

                  As far as cornerbacks who can break off their man without seeing the ball, well, I don't know what to say. How long has this been a problem? Was it in '11? I don't remember and I don't understand their code for this part of the game. I'm not sure how the developers of this game find that acceptable. They definitely need to work on WR/DB physics and animations while the ball is in the air. This would help with the lack of pass interference calls. This game is created off of canned animations so I'm sure they could figure some sort of animation for this problem. It is a problem.

                  EA sports. It's in the game. Umm, no it's not.

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                  • stoncold32
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 3588

                    #99
                    Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #4 Is In The Works

                    Originally posted by rspencer86
                    . wouldn't they have to fix these issues anyway?
                    If this was the case, then we wouldnt have the same issues year to year.

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                    • Magicnoles
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 33

                      #100
                      Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #4 Is In The Works

                      is this game worth buying, i plan on buying ncaa12 madden12 or fifa12 tomorrow, need some help

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                      • BlastX21
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 2118

                        #101
                        Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #4 Is In The Works

                        Originally posted by Magicnoles
                        is this game worth buying, i plan on buying ncaa12 madden12 or fifa12 tomorrow, need some help
                        No. You will be getting extremely frustrated within 2 weeks.
                        Originally posted by Kaiser Wilhelm
                        there should not be ties occurring in the NFL except when neither team wins the game.

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                        • authentic
                          All Star
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 5812

                          #102
                          I wonder if EA would ever consider doing an open beta with their sports games, preferably Madden, NCAA, and NBA Elite when it comes out. Having an open beta a month or more before release would speed things up. Battlefield was infected with problems but I bet it's fixed on release day. Just a thought. Yes? No?
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                          • WoOkiE FTW
                            Rookie
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 300

                            #103
                            Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #4 Is In The Works

                            Originally posted by authentic
                            I wonder if EA would ever consider doing an open beta with their sports games, preferably Madden, NCAA, and NBA Elite when it comes out. Having an open beta a month or more before release would speed things up. Battlefield was infected with problems but I bet it's fixed on release day. Just a thought. Yes? No?
                            I've constantly said to my friends that everyone paid 60 bucks to be beta testers for NCAA 13.

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                            • Armor and Sword
                              The Lama
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 21801

                              #104
                              Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #4 Is In The Works

                              Originally posted by DJ
                              I've enjoyed NCAA 12, despite its flaws, since launch.

                              That said, since we are getting a fourth patch, I'm going to ride this game out for another 1-2 years. No way am I going through the sit-and-wait game with NCAA 13 like I did this year.
                              Oh yeah I hear you brutha.

                              I will be purchasing no sports games next year. The only one that has a shot....a shot is believe it or not Madden 13.

                              Yes that is right. I am so enjoying Madden 12. If they can come back next year with a much improved AI logic engine for franchise mode and revamp the entire play by play/color engine and give a real broadcast like presentation It will be worth it.

                              Otherwise I am sitting tight for a couple of years with all the titles I have purchased this past year and half.

                              MLB The Show 11
                              NHL 11
                              NBA2K11
                              NBA2K12 (buying on Black Friday)
                              Madden 12
                              NCAA 12

                              I am set for a long time.

                              In the meantime I am really still enjoying NCAA 12 and found the patch did wonders to the colors and stability of the game. I am looking forward to patch 4 and seeing what else will be tuned.

                              I am in year 4 and will keep this current dynasty going probably longer than any other I have ever done on the NCAA series. With the Coaching Carousel I can jump ship and go to a smaller school or if I can get this ship turned around go to antoher powerhouse!
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                              • goh
                                Banned
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 20755

                                #105
                                Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #4 Is In The Works

                                This is what I want...

                                1. Fix custom playbooks.
                                2. Fix WR constantly dropping the ball when WIDE OPEN on comeback routes. (Appears to be an animation glitch.)

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