NCAA Football 12 Title Update #4 Is In The Works

[fistofrage]

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I wonder if EA would ever consider doing an open beta with their sports games, preferably Madden, NCAA, and NBA Elite when it comes out. Having an open beta a month or more before release would speed things up. Battlefield was infected with problems but I bet it's fixed on release day. Just a thought. Yes? No?

Even if they had an open Beta, it would be mainly the win at all cost crowd testing it. The less sim elements for them the better, they don't want turnovers, penalties, bobbled snaps, etc, standing in the way of victory.

I am not sure who EA listens to when they do patches and tuners but after playing Fight Night Champion, I have a pretty good idea that its a 13 year old whiner with self esteem issues that givers them their feedback.

[rdubbs40]

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I think he means corners in man coverage who break off their man coverage the second the ball is in the air, despite not being able to see the ball or the intended receiver. They just "know" where the ball is.

It is a pretty significant problem on crossing routes, combo routes (post/corner combos) and vertical routes that are close together. I notice it a ton lately now that I switched to air raid. I ran a mesh concept last night against man to man coverage, as the WR's crossed, I threw to the backside mesh WR and the DB on the strong side mesh WR knocked it down despite running the opposite direction. He stopped, turned and slapped it away despite being able to see the pass or the receiver.

I see this more in verticals though, where you'll throw one of the vertical routes and while the ball is in the air, the DB on the other vertical will leave his guy and play the ball despite not being able to see it.

Scary that a Husker fan could be that smart (LOL, just kidding of course) but that's exactly what I was talking about

[Buckeye Country]

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R they going to release info on this?

[89OneHanded]

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Also, has EA issued any type of apology?

I don't want an apology from EA, I want them to put out a quality product, if they're going to monopolize the market and force me to pay them 60$ if I want to play a football video game. I have bought both NCAA and Madden every year since 2001, but I will certainly not be buying NCAA next year. This is pathetic. I can only hope Take Two will be able to make a large enough bid for the NFLPA license in 2013.

[ren6175]

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If I were them I wouldn't issue an apology or do anything differently. Out of the millions of people who bought the game there are a few 1000 (if that) that dislike the game that all post on operation sports.

I personally love the game. I will be buying NCAA13, but I am happy to see the updates because there are a few problems. Nothing that I don't see in 99% of all video games released nowadays.

Sorry that you don't like it though.

[nonnel]

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If I were them I wouldn't issue an apology or do anything differently. Out of the millions of people who bought the game there are a few 1000 (if that) that dislike the game that all post on operation sports.

I personally love the game. I will be buying NCAA13, but I am happy to see the updates because there are a few problems. Nothing that I don't see in 99% of all video games released nowadays.

Sorry that you don't like it though.

This is some amazing logic on your part. You think there's only a few thousand that don't like the game "if that", and that literally everyone that doesn't like the game not only knows what operation sports is, but comes here and posts about it.

You have an insanely bizarre view on how many people are displeased with this product, and also an insanely bizarre view on the popularity of operation sports. Enjoy the game though.

[WipeOut464]

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If I were them I wouldn't issue an apology or do anything differently. Out of the millions of people who bought the game there are a few 1000 (if that) that dislike the game that all post on operation sports.

I personally love the game. I will be buying NCAA13, but I am happy to see the updates because there are a few problems. Nothing that I don't see in 99% of all video games released nowadays.

Sorry that you don't like it though.

That's an odd statement to make without any evidence given in support.

Not to say that it's perfectly representative of the larger consumer base, but NCAA 12's facebook page is also littered with the same kind of comments you see on OS. I imagine NCAA 13's day 1 sales will be a better indication of people's reaction to 12.

[Buckeye Country]

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Any updates on this by EA?

[BlackBetty15]

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That's an odd statement to make without any evidence given in support.

Not to say that it's perfectly representative of the larger consumer base, but NCAA 12's facebook page is also littered with the same kind of comments you see on OS. I imagine NCAA 13's day 1 sales will be a better indication of people's reaction to 12.

lol its true though. As much as I hate to admit it, those of us here at OS are purists when it comes to our baseball games and football games. Ouf of the milliones who own the game only a small fraction gripe about it the way we do which is why stupid things like penalty animations (PI, ball thrown away ect...) never get updated, and important things go untouched or not updated for years.

[Sundown2600]

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Guys this game is still really good. The key is finding the right slider set and speed threshold. I've noticed that the lower the speed threshold the less player warping you see. Lower the Pass Coverage slider to under 10 for both CPU and HUM. This will cut down on the AI reaction time, which in turn will cut down on the psychic stuff. I have seen less psychic defense using a combination of low threshold and low Pass Coverage values. I can't understand how guys play on AA and Heisman with Pass Coverage at or above 50. It's insane.

I'm hoping the 4th patch can fix coach progression and the dreaded tendency bug at the very least without breaking something else. If they can fix a few more things in addition to these two I am more than happy. Would love to see them sort out the online transfer failed issue for all my ppl that love OD. Luckily for me I'm not an OD guy. I can see why they would have given up by now.

Oh...I almost forgot to ask...Hey EA. WHERE IS OUR TUNER!!!!!

[Herky]

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Guys this game is still really good. The key is finding the right slider set and speed threshold. I've noticed that the lower the speed threshold the less player warping you see. Lower the Pass Coverage slider to under 10 for both CPU and HUM. This will cut down on the AI reaction time, which in turn will cut down on the psychic stuff. I have seen less psychic defense using a combination of low threshold and low Pass Coverage values. I can't understand how guys play on AA and Heisman with Pass Coverage at or above 50. It's insane.

I'm hoping the 4th patch can fix coach progression and the dreaded tendency bug at the very least without breaking something else. If they can fix a few more things in addition to these two I am more than happy. Would love to see them sort out the online transfer failed issue for all my ppl that love OD. Luckily for me I'm not an OD guy. I can see why they would have given up by now.

Oh...I almost forgot to ask...Hey EA. WHERE IS OUR TUNER!!!!!

I was thinking the same thing. I don't mind the game overall but we should have another tuner by now. That frustrates me.

[rdubbs40]

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I wonder if this patch will also include the update to the EA Sports website (ya know the "ESPN style story thing")

[KingV2k3]

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I'd like to see this patch address the inconsistency on both sides of the ball regarding the Option...

The CPU runs it well about 25% of the time, 25% of the time the D defends it well and properly...

The rest of the time SOMEBODY on O and or D is doing something unnatural and really stupid...even with edits, its a hard code mess...

Tuning CPU D logic would be nice too...

Too often they either "know" exactly what you're running or are blitzing inefficiently, leaving the seams wide open...

It can be limited by editing Coach Philosophy, to play a more balanced / less aggressive game, but some of the mismatches against spread offences are also hard code and too easy to exploit...

The old "two controller trick" would solve both issues...

As NDAlum has said, if you assign them custom playbooks based on their base scheme, you can circumvent that, but I'd prefer to not have to do that...

Overall, the above is bordering on nit picky, as Herky and Sundown2600 alluded to in their posts, sliders can weed the majority of the issues that have been beaten to death around here out...

Oh well, we shall see...

[ren6175]

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Sorry, my post wasn't very clear. I meant that the number of people that use operation sports and post complaints about NCAA 12 is in the thousands. True I haven't counted all the negative posters, but I can say for certain that this game has sold millions of copies.

You are correct that this is all speculation and I don't have evidence. But I would bet that next year the game will again sell millions of copies regardless of whether you and the several thousand operation sports users that don't like the game buy it or not. I mean even if you want to argue my logic and say that there are 10,000 or 50,000 or 100,000 you still won't have much impact on this game's sales or EA.

Finally, I would agree that there are thousands of people that don't use operation sports that don't like the game. Absolutely, you are correct. But my GUESS (only a guess) is that the type of consumer that doesn't know about operation sports or similar websites doesn't care enough about the problems to not buy the game.

Anyway, it is fun to discuss. Like I said, I'm happy with the game. Hopefully someday the game will live up to your expectations, but you might miss out on a lot of fun between now and then.

[SECElit3]

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This last update has peaked my interest. However, this game is sitting on my shelf collecting dust behind Forza and soon to arrive, Batman.

I really hope EA takes their time with this patch and takes the game play back to as it was pre-patch, because the game they had out of the box was a solid game minus the freezing.