NBA 2K12 Videos - Strategy Session 5 & 6 with Da_Czar

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  • Rawdeal28
    Swiitch U? lol
    • Oct 2007
    • 7407

    #16
    Re: NBA 2K12 Videos - Strategy Session 5 & 6 with Da_Czar

    Originally posted by NEWJERSEYBALLER
    Does Inside Shot rating factor in aswell? Garnett's inside game is rated 90 - perhaps that helped with his Layup attempt?
    yes. unless it was a normal running layup animation like this one terry does at :20 seconds

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    or was he already underneath the basket and just put it in.
    "on hoping there is a PSN flash sale before Valentine's Day"
    Man there are no flashers... now what are we going to do for vd
    I'm sure there's plenty of prostitutes you could pay if you really want vd.
    yea but will they take psn cards
    Depends on what area of a hooker you would use to redeem them.

    lol

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    • jorge380
      MVP
      • Jun 2003
      • 1249

      #17
      Re: NBA 2K12 Videos - Strategy Session 5 &amp; 6 with Da_Czar

      Thank you Czar this is great stuff.

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      • djsider2
        Rookie
        • May 2007
        • 125

        #18
        Re: NBA 2K12 Videos - Strategy Session 5 &amp; 6 with Da_Czar

        Czar, in session 5, what settings and sliders did you use for those tests?

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        • Colts18
          MVP
          • Feb 2010
          • 1959

          #19
          Re: NBA 2K12 Videos - Strategy Session 5 &amp; 6 with Da_Czar

          Originally posted by NEWJERSEYBALLER
          After watching the video, I now play with the Shot Quality Feedback On for All Users (so I can see my opponent).

          Problem: Kevin Garnett has a 66 Layup rating and I contested him with Brook Lopez. Shot Quality was C for Garnett, Layup Success at 46 on Simulation sliders - however, the ball still goes in?

          Lopez has 49 On Ball Defense, but on Sim sliders the On Ball attribute slider is raised to 70, so he is a better defender. Not to mention, Lopez has a 89 Block rating. I timed it perfectly, because it effected Garnett's layup attempt and he was graded a C but still made it?

          People are telling me to play defense, well I am - what do I have to do for that Layup to not be successful?
          1. C doesn't mean the shot has ZERO chance of going in.

          2. On ball slider at 70 on SIM is a joke. It shouldn't be above 50. Because it does exactly what you said, it makes poor defenders solid defenders.

          3. See answer #1. I am sure if you went into practice mode, KG wouldn't make that layup that high of a clip. So consider that shot semi-lucky,.

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          • phant030
            MVP
            • Sep 2006
            • 1232

            #20
            Originally posted by Colts18
            1. C doesn't mean the shot has ZERO chance of going in.

            2. On ball slider at 70 on SIM is a joke. It shouldn't be above 50. Because it does exactly what you said, it makes poor defenders solid defenders.

            3. See answer #1. I am sure if you went into practice mode, KG wouldn't make that layup that high of a clip. So consider that shot semi-lucky,.
            About #2, it could also mean poor ballhandlers are less effective. Leading the user to put scorer's in position to score instead of iso/and1 type basketball.

            This is what I was saying earlier. If users work on their D, they can have success on that side of the court. Limit open shots, contest ALL shots. Don't let the cpu do everything for u.

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            • youALREADYknow
              MVP
              • Aug 2008
              • 3635

              #21
              Re: NBA 2K12 Videos - Strategy Session 5 &amp; 6 with Da_Czar



              Excellent work! Explains a lot and even puts some of my fears and assumptions to rest regarding contested shot effectiveness.

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              • kolanji
                Pro
                • Sep 2009
                • 872

                #22
                Re: NBA 2K12 Videos - Strategy Session 5 &amp; 6 with Da_Czar

                well these videos are great but still in the end u have to reduce the space the defender use....... they seem too ice like and very hard to stay in front of the ball handler and very easily get out of position
                Last edited by kolanji; 10-14-2011, 01:16 PM.
                Humans fear what they dont understand, hate what they cant concur i guess its just the theory of man

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                • jlbrown143
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 161

                  #23
                  Re: NBA 2K12 Videos - Strategy Session 5 &amp; 6 with Da_Czar

                  Czar...I just want you to know that I played a game after watching your videos this morning and I immediately played better defense and shot a lot better.......

                  Im telling you 2k Devs... your game has some little issues but this game is not broken any where near what these cats are crying about, this game is DEEP!!!....the more video's the Czar does the more enjoyable the game becomes...lol

                  I love this game for real, the tendencies you find yourself doing in the game feels just about as real as the on court experience, I can't say it enough, when I move my feet I am able to stay with my defensive assignment, sure I get beat but I should if I am out of position, my hands in the face defense is definitely more effective now that I know the STRATEGY behind it's effectiveness.....If I double team and don't rotate to the open man it's a done deal...which most times it should be depending on who I left open......also I did adjust the quickness slider, the 3pt slider and a couple other things, in the coaching adjustment I just switched to auto for plays called, my game play experience has improved up immensely.....

                  when I do dumb things I get punished for them, when I play smart ball I get rewarded, at first I was having some trouble getting to the basket, this morning I was getting all kinds of cuts and oops to the Hole......

                  All I can say is that with the combination of training camp, Slider adjustments, Czar's videos and the 2k moves list , seriously this year's version is the first time in a long time, that I have felt that if I play smart ball I can win any game, do I win?... some not all, but atleast I felt like I had a chance and the games I lose I can easily recall the things I could have done different...(all you can ask for right?...)

                  It's all good...!!
                  Last edited by jlbrown143; 10-14-2011, 01:41 PM.
                  Jambro

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                  • iLLosophy
                    Plata o Plomo
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 3673

                    #24
                    Nice work Czar. Still think the design that hands up is less likely to prevent a shot to go in then pressing LT is silly....i don't care what your shoot in traffic rating is. Also in the 2nd video, when you finally get an F from dirk, his release was late.

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                    • TUSS11
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 1483

                      #25
                      Re: NBA 2K12 Videos - Strategy Session 5 &amp; 6 with Da_Czar

                      Czar is lucky. He has his own personal rebounder in practice mode. I'm jealous.

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                      • ManiacMatt1782
                        Who? Giroux!
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 3982

                        #26
                        Re: NBA 2K12 Videos - Strategy Session 5 &amp; 6 with Da_Czar

                        this video is even more reason why we need thes indicators online.
                        www.twitch.tv/maniacmatt1228
                        www.youtube.com/maniacmatt1782

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                        • Da_Czar
                          NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 5408

                          #27
                          Re: NBA 2K12 Videos - Strategy Session 5 &amp; 6 with Da_Czar

                          Originally posted by iLLosophy
                          Nice work Czar. Still think the design that hands up is less likely to prevent a shot to go in then pressing LT is silly....i don't care what your shoot in traffic rating is. Also in the 2nd video, when you finally get an F from dirk, his release was late.
                          Thank's Ill that must have slipped past me. Don't know how I missed that. I'm seeing indicators in my sleep.

                          The setting for who asked are sim settings with 3pt and fg at 47 for user and computer I believe.
                          Catch me on that #SimNation #SimHangOut Friday's @ 10:00 pm est https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...N7yxMiElOpMl_B

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                          • iLLosophy
                            Plata o Plomo
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 3673

                            #28
                            Re: NBA 2K12 Videos - Strategy Session 5 &amp; 6 with Da_Czar

                            Originally posted by Da_Czar
                            Thank's Ill that must have slipped past me. Don't know how I missed that. I'm seeing indicators in my sleep.

                            The setting for who asked are sim settings with 3pt and fg at 47 for user and computer I believe.
                            Hahaha - in the grand scheme of things, nobody cares due to all the great work in the video. Just wanted to make sure you had your facts straight. Thanks again man, these two are probably the most helpful videos I've seen for 2k12.

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                            • djsider2
                              Rookie
                              • May 2007
                              • 125

                              #29
                              Re: NBA 2K12 Videos - Strategy Session 5 &amp; 6 with Da_Czar

                              Originally posted by TUSS11
                              Czar is lucky. He has his own personal rebounder in practice mode. I'm jealous.
                              i thought that was just me wondering about how to get the personal rebounder...

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                              • AllStarDaDon
                                Pro
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 932

                                #30
                                Re: NBA 2K12 Videos - Strategy Session 5 &amp; 6 with Da_Czar

                                Great insightful videos. Lmfao at the intro to video 5. "Sometimes when I contest I feel like it doesn't do anything" stfu that's basketball.

                                This game becomes more enjoyable everyday.
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                                Originally posted by JasonWilliams55
                                This video game is a SIMULATION of BASKETBALL. Sure its not 100% perfect, but its pretty damn good. You will not get a SIMULATION STYLE BASKETBALL GAME by PLAYING SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT KNOW WHAT SIMULATION MEANS.


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