Forza Motorsport 4 Impressions From the OS Community

[Flamehead]

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Did they take away the driver difficulty setting in career? I don't see the option under my profile preferences and nothing for setting AI difficulty in career. I was doing some quick races and know I had it set to hard but when I start up my career I am walking away from everyone which should not be case with hard. I have everything else set to sim except don't use clutch.

While you can set difficulty in, say, a race in the event list, you cannot select it in World Tour. Apparently as you level up within the mode, the difficulty will increase (how far up, I'm not sure. I read one review where the user said things started to get spicy for him when he hit around level 32).

In addition to difficulty via level, the game is also supposed to be calculating difficulty according to your driving skills within that particular level. So while you may be smoking them now no matter what, the increased levels and 'modified' AI based on your skills should eventually get you where you want to be in world tour.

[lnin0]

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While you can set difficulty in, say, a race in the event list, you cannot select it in World Tour. Apparently as you level up within the mode, the difficulty will increase (how far up, I'm not sure. I read one review where the user said things started to get spicy for him when he hit around level 32).

In addition to difficulty via level, the game is also supposed to be calculating difficulty according to your driving skills within that particular level. So while you may be smoking them now no matter what, the increased levels and 'modified' AI based on your skills should eventually get you where you want to be in world tour.

thanks for the info. Guess I missed that in the manual. It was driving me nuts I could not find the setting. Now my only concern is what if the get too good. LOL.

[ZB9]

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Incredible game, best racing game ive ever played..Turn 10 hit it out of the park with this one..between Forza and Dark Souls, most of my other games are going to be collecting dust now perhaps I could use them as coasters

[goh]

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Very good game. Not great though.

Graphics seem to be terribly overrated. It doesn't look as good as Dirt 3 (at least the PC version) and there's plently of visible "jaggies" in the 3rd person view. 1st person is nice and they're far less noticable but I play in 3rd.

The car sounds and voice over work are great. The music on the other hand...ick. They couldn't have shelled out for some actual songs? While custom soundtrack is easily available I've used up pretty much all my good racing tunes already this gen. I decided to go the Dirt 3 way with no race music at all.

Like Forza 3 the constant rewards are good. It felt a lot like Forza 3 at first but after a while it does a good job of seperating itself.

I took an awesome pic of a finish where I slammed the AI car into the wall as I was crossing the line to make sure I wasn't passed. Then it told me I need gold to upload it. Then I tried to download a car. It said it was downloading...then cut off to tell me I need gold to download it. Way to downgrade the experience and remind me why I get everything on PC now fellas! By the time there's another free weekend I guess at least there'll be more to pick from. I wanted that Kill Bill car.

I also didn't have my Forza 3 save anymore.

Got the special edition. Read about a lot of people not getting theirs but I just walked into the store and bought it.

[burnwood]

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Frustrating volume controls. There is only a master volume control now and then sfx and music have three settings off/low/high. I like to race loud with no music but like very faint menu music. If my master volume is maxed the 'low' setting on menu music is still way to loud for my liking. What was the point of getting rid of sliders for each selection - seemed to work great.

Agree.

Auto-Revving starts. WTF is up with this arcade crap. Even with a clutch the camera is bouncing around and you get maybe one extra second to rev before the race starts. LAME LAME LAME and even more LAME considering it was huge complaint in F3.

Agree. After all these years they could have at least made it a toggle (on/off).

No night racing. No weather. Many of the new tracks offer a dusk or overcast option but no night racing. I think one old track got an added sunset option as well.

I read somewhere that this at the expense of the framerate and simulation physics on the 360. So, there was a tradeoff and decision to go for framerate.

Ai does not seem improved to me. In fact, so far in career I am finding the slow AI to be annoying. They stick blindly to their line and come down on you even when you are right next to them. They did not seem as dumb in the hard free races I have done but still seem a little less aware of you. I have seen several make huge unforced mistakes.

I've also read that the AI changes around level 32 or so.

Car damage and pit stops are mostly the same. Damage might be bumped up a hair over F3 on sim but you won't see a DNF because of it.

Yup, they said the damage model would be unchanged many months ago.

Bumps. Turn 10 specifically talked about how tracks are getting bumps added yet everything feels as smooth as glass to me. Even the front stretch on Seabring feels smooth now.

Hmmm.. is this with the controller or a wheel? I'm curious. And which wheel do you have if so?

Best new feature - Rivals.
Worthelss new feature - Car Clubs
Overall Impression - New set of tires for the same great car we've been driving for years
Uninitiated Score 9.8/10
Initiated Score 7/10

Thanks, I really appreciated your post. Can't wait to play Friday night.

[JMD]

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thanks for the info. Guess I missed that in the manual. It was driving me nuts I could not find the setting. Now my only concern is what if the get too good. LOL.

I'm at level 37 now and the A.I. is getting tougher, however some times I'm still leaving them at the start line and never seeing them again. It' doesn't happen as often as it did early on in the game, it's just every now and then my car just overpowers the rest of the field. The higher you level up the more important car choice becomes . Pick the wrong car and you will get blown out by the A.I.. I always take a look at what the opponents are driving before selecting my car now.

[KSUowls]

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I'm loving this game so far.

Between myself and my brother the xbox has hardly had a sleeping moment since we picked the game up on Tuesday.

pros:
-The detail put into the cars, tracks, and environment are all amazing.
-The list of high end cars is great. I pretty much have all the BMWs, Chevys, Lotus, Mclaren, Ferraris, etc...that I could want. It even has the first car I ever owned a mid 90s Dodge Stealth R/T.
-Affinity Bonus: love love love this. The reason I play games like Forza and Gran Turismo is so that I can have sexy high end cars and drop tons of upgrades on them. Forza 4 lets me do this by quickly obtaining 100% discounts on upgrades for the various Makes. Part of the reason I stopped playing Forza 3 is because I got tired of grinding out specific high yield races so that I could purchase a new car or even just the upgrades for it.

Cons:
-Game is generally a little easy. Especially once I finally got fed up with the computer assists and started turning them off. Some of the R3, R2, and R1 races can be a little tight, but for the most part I haven't had many issues.
-Starter car options are kind of poor. I was unimpressed with the options I had to start out the game with and was forced to drive for several races before I was able to purchase better cars.
-No weather...I really loved driving at night in the rain in GT5, really wish that was in this one.

Minor annoyances:
-When you upgrade your driver level and receive a new gift car, it does not tell you anything about the car other than what class it is in, if it is mid-engine or not and if it is AWD/RWD/FWD...I really wish it gave you tech specs at this screen as well as how much each car would cost to buy.

[TheDutchDad]

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What's the online like? Fun game modes? Do you need to unlock nice cars offline to use them online? I'm considering getting it but I don't want to be a huge disadvantage if I want to jump straight into some online stuff.

[lnin0]

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What's the online like? Fun game modes? Do you need to unlock nice cars offline to use them online? I'm considering getting it but I don't want to be a huge disadvantage if I want to jump straight into some online stuff.

Online has always been Forza's strength. The game offers something for everyone from the hard core to the casual to the drifters. You can jump in pre-configured hoppers (vote driven) or public/private races (host driven) along with a new feature called Rivals.

Rivals is not on online race but is a really fantastic addition worth mentioning. It is more of a super advance leaderboard system for a bunch of custom events. It pits you against your nearest friend's ghost (or nearest player if you don't have a friend who has done the event). You put your best time or drift score up against them and the game keeps everyone up to date with an in-game message center.

This year the online field is expanded to 16 cars which is just insane. You can also have up to 11 ai drivers as part of your 16 car field. There is a slew of host options for online races in host controlled rooms. You can setup everything from a multiclass race to a game of cat&mouse. Not only does the host have a ton of race options but they can also restrict just about any other assist or car setting as well.

Online you can choose from cars in your garage, your clubs garage or any stock car from the game. In many races a tuned car from your garage is going to be a slight advantage just because it can be as close to the class cut off as possible. That is not to say you cannot be competitive in a stock car but it is best to take the stock cars that are at the upper end of each class. You can also enter races where stock is a forced option so everyone is on equal terms.

Have a look about half way down this page and you can find some details about Monthly Rivals and the Turn10 Race Hoppers: http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/wir_10-7/

[TheDutchDad]

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Thanks for the response. That's what I was looking for. I just want to be able to have some fun online in some fun game modes along with racing. I hear there is a "soccer' mode or something. Cat and Mouse is was always fun too.

[goh]

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Minor annoyances:
-When you upgrade your driver level and receive a new gift car, it does not tell you anything about the car other than what class it is in, if it is mid-engine or not and if it is AWD/RWD/FWD...I really wish it gave you tech specs at this screen as well as how much each car would cost to buy.

http://www.gamespot.com/features/6338910/index.html?tag=updates%3Btitle%3B8

For people complaining about it being too easy try a worse car? If the limit is 450 use a 425?

[Tomba]

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Oh MY Gosh this games brilliant

So for fun i decided to just gun at a rail and see the damage. Im in Spain and theres pit crew there just standing and when i do this they react like "what this guys doin"?"Brilliant...This game has great moments in it where youd least expect them

[CX1329]

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I'm enjoying the variety in AI opponents. Some like to race clean and others will outright attempt to ram you off the track, and whereas some will just let you pass them, others will defend their position more aggressively.

Personally, I always strive to race as cleanly as possible, but I'm not afraid to get rough with AI drivers who play dirty.

[Romain El 82]

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I love the game.

My only complaint is I wish they more of the late model muscle cars like the new 5.0 Mustang, the new Boss Mustang, the 6.4L Challenger & Charger, and the Camaro ZL1.

Since I'm nearly the last person on Earth that likes American cars I'm probably the only person that feels that way.

Me too bud, me too!

[bkfount]

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Minor annoyances:
-When you upgrade your driver level and receive a new gift car, it does not tell you anything about the car other than what class it is in, if it is mid-engine or not and if it is AWD/RWD/FWD...I really wish it gave you tech specs at this screen as well as how much each car would cost to buy.

yeah, people have already made lists of the reward cars and how much each costs. It's important info if you're going for some achievements, since some of the reward cars are worth millions. Level 30 gives you a choice of a $9 million dollar Ferarri or $5 million dollar shelby, which would be great to know.