SECElite's 2012 Heisman Slider Set Enjoy!

**Wenkinator** · 10-09-2011, 05:20 AM

Re: SECElite's 2012 Heisman Slider Set Enjoy!

<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /><link href="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/css/osdyn.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"></head><body><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td align="center" colspan="6">Oregon Ducks at Boise State Broncos</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="48%">Sep 1, </td><td align="right" width="10%">1ST</td><td align="right" width="10%">2ND</td><td align="right" width="10%">3RD</td><td align="right" width="10%">4TH</td><td align="right" width="12%">SCORE</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td><span style="color:#CC0000;">#5</span> Oregon Ducks (0-0)</td><td align="right">14</td><td align="right">10</td><td align="right">8</td><td align="right">8</td><td align="right" class="active">40</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td><span style="color:#CC0000;">#8</span> Boise State Broncos (0-0)</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">14</td><td align="right">14</td><td align="right">10</td><td align="right" class="active">43</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="3">Team Stats Comparison</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="60%"></td><td align="center" width="20%">ORE</td><td align="center" width="20%">BSU</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Offense</td><td align="center">436</td><td align="center">417</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Rushing Yards</td><td align="center">94</td><td align="center">90</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Passing Yards</td><td align="center">342</td><td align="center">327</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">First Downs</td><td align="center">19</td><td align="center">16</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Punt Return Yards</td><td align="center">36</td><td align="center">52</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Kick Return Yards</td><td align="center">88</td><td align="center">183</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Yards</td><td align="center">560</td><td align="center">652</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Turnovers</td><td align="center">0</td><td align="center">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">3rd Down Converstion</td><td align="center">7-14(50%)</td><td align="center">6-14(42%)</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">4th Down Conversion</td><td align="center">0-1(0%)</td><td align="center">1-1(100%)</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">2-Point Conversion</td><td align="center">2-2(100%)</td><td align="center">0-0(0%)</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals</td><td align="center">5-4-1</td><td align="center">5-4-1</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Penalties</td><td align="center">1-15</td><td align="center">1-10</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Posession Time</td><td align="center">23:59</td><td align="center">20:09</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="1" cellspacing="0" class="spacer" style="margin:0 auto;" width="575"><tr><td align="center" valign="top" width="50%"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="100%"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#044520" colspan="5"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Oregon Ducks</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PASSING</td><td align="right" width="16%">C/A</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Darron Thomas</td><td align="right">21/29</td><td align="right">342</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Jackson Rice</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RUSHING</td><td align="right" width="16%">ATT</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Lamichael James</td><td align="right">17</td><td align="right">33</td><td align="right">1.9</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Darron Thomas</td><td align="right">15</td><td align="right">45</td><td align="right">3.0</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Kenjon Barner</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0.5</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Justin Hoffman</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">-1</td><td align="right">-1.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Lavasier Tuinei</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">16</td><td align="right">16.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RECEIVING</td><td align="right" width="16%">REC</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Lavasier Tuinei</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">138</td><td align="right">19.7</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Justin Hoffman</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">98</td><td align="right">19.6</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Josh Huff</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">46</td><td align="right">15.3</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>David Paulson</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">26</td><td align="right">8.6</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Lamichael James</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">34</td><td align="right">11.3</td><td align="right">0</td></tr></table></td><td align="center" valign="top" width="50%"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="100%"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#2D4492" colspan="5"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Boise State Broncos</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PASSING</td><td align="right" width="16%">C/A</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Kellen Moore</td><td align="right">21/38</td><td align="right">327</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RUSHING</td><td align="right" width="16%">ATT</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>DJ Harper</td><td align="right">12</td><td align="right">54</td><td align="right">4.5</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Doug Martin</td><td align="right">10</td><td align="right">55</td><td align="right">5.5</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Kellen Moore</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">-19</td><td align="right">-4.7</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RECEIVING</td><td align="right" width="16%">REC</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Matt Miller</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">111</td><td align="right">18.5</td><td align="right">2</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Kyle Efaw</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">52</td><td align="right">13.0</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Chris Porter</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">33</td><td align="right">11.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Geraldo Boldewijn</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">20</td><td align="right">10.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Gabe Linehan</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">18</td><td align="right">9.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Mitch Burroughs</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">11</td><td align="right">11.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>DJ Harper</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">11</td><td align="right">11.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Tyler Shoemaker</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">51</td><td align="right">51.0</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Doug Martin</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">20</td><td align="right">20.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr></table></td></tr></table></body></html>

I really enjoyed the game. I have all the patches and the tuners fyi.

It was a tight game the entire time. Passing felt so much harder than I'm used to with the ALL American Sliders but I still came up with > 300 yards. I could still run the ball, but the breakaway runs felt much more limited...

I was burned not by bad coverage but Tuinei just would not come down so he got a lot of yardage after the catch. I was pleased. He is quite the physical specimen and he beat up on the smaller db trying to bring him down.

I really liked how I didn't see a single hit stick

Anyway, those are my first impressions. I hope these sliders prove to be as awesome as they are shaping up to be

**Cheesehead2138** · 10-16-2011, 01:32 AM

Re: SECElite's 2012 Heisman Slider Set Enjoy!

Hey sec I had a question,,, are you using a downloadable roster with these or just using the no named ones??

**SECElit3** · 10-16-2011, 08:41 AM

Originally posted by Cheesehead2138

Hey sec I had a question,,, are you using a downloadable roster with these or just using the no named ones??

Mustangs84 rosters, no patch w/tuner. Autosave turned off to prevent roster corruption.

**NDalltheway** · 10-20-2011, 04:03 PM

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is there a way to download rosters if you dont have the patches?

**Sydeburnz** · 10-20-2011, 09:06 PM

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Download Patch, Get Roster, Remove Patch

**gigemaggs99** · 10-21-2011, 07:51 AM

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I must say, I tried these sliders Oregon (me) vs Oregon St (CPU), 7 min quarters and I had a blast. My Oregon QB wasn't on fire but he did complete 55% of his passes which was ok. I won in OT 20-17.

I do have a question though. I enjoy playing this game with lower level teams, (Wyoming, UNLV, Colordo St, etc...)

I tried these sliders on the practice field with Colorado St, their QB is around 81 overall and his passing accuracy is 80. I couldn't hit simple screen passes, he would just chunk the ball out of bounds. On deep post routes he would throw the ball either out of bounds or on the wrong half of the field. I tried throwing with my feet set, and with no defense on the field but he still can't complete 1 single pass.

Oregon's QB is closer to 87 for passing accuracy, does this 7 points difference make THAT big of a difference?

Since you said: "QBA: 0
In past years, this setting at 0 presented a quarterback who couldn’t hit the broadside of a barn with a beach ball. That does not seem to be the case this year. I have had CPU QBs in labbing throw for a many yard against me. There is a good mix of good and bad throws. Passes for the CPU and User seem to have good velocity and are accurately placed. Ratings seem to matter which I think should be the number one thing taken into account with any slider set. It is important to remember that the best QBs in the NCAA last year only completed 60% of their passes. "

I bumped the QBA up to 5, then tried again and then finally moved it up from 10 up to 15. Now the lower level QBs still have trouble with the deep crossing routes, and deep curls, but they can atleast hit the TE on a STICK route or a HB on a swing pass. Any thoughts on this? Have you seen this or are the sliders really tested and better suited for top 30 teams?

I like the feel of the rest of the game, I'm going to play some more practice games but other than the QB slider the rest feels AWESOME!

**Sydeburnz** · 10-21-2011, 11:32 AM

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You cannot use these sliders in Practise as the EA "magic dust" is not in effect. Not to be confused by the tuners we download, EA adds some secret algorithm when actually playing a game based on the level of difficulty.

That is also why sliders are default 50 regardless of your difficulty level vs. Madden where the default sliders go from 75 on Rookie down to 25 on All Madden...

Additionally this is why I play coach mode ... the "magic" is less pronounced when there is no human stick involved in the game... psycotic DB's and LB's are all but non-existant.

**gigemaggs99** · 10-21-2011, 12:35 PM

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Originally posted by Sydeburnz

You cannot use these sliders in Practise as the EA "magic dust" is not in effect. Not to be confused by the tuners we download, EA adds some secret algorithm when actually playing a game based on the level of difficulty.

That is also why sliders are default 50 regardless of your difficulty level vs. Madden where the default sliders go from 75 on Rookie down to 25 on All Madden...

Additionally this is why I play coach mode ... the "magic" is less pronounced when there is no human stick involved in the game... psycotic DB's and LB's are all but non-existant.

Well, that is the strangest thing I've heard/seen in years. Just like you said, I couldn't do CRAP on the practice field, but then did a play now game, Colorado St (me) vs Utah St (CPU) and I was able to complete passes like normal. My QB didn't throw poorly at all. I'm glad this works. Thank you sir and thank to the OP, these are great sliders.

**titan23** · 10-22-2011, 01:15 AM

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I went to delete my patch, and it says Title Update #3 only. There's no 2. Should I still delete this 3rd patch or leave it alone? I have the tuner also.

**thumstyx** · 10-23-2011, 10:59 AM

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Just a heads up -

I am using this slider set with Patch #3 / Tuners and it plays great.
I know the slider set was not built / tested with all current patches but it still plays very well.

**BlackBetty15** · 10-23-2011, 04:21 PM

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Originally posted by thumstyx

Just a heads up -

I am using this slider set with Patch #3 / Tuners and it plays great.
I know the slider set was not built / tested with all current patches but it still plays very well.

really? How so? Can you post some stats and what you are seeing? I want to give these a shot however I don't want to remove the patch- I wish ea would let us decide which patch we wanted to keep because patch 1 was all I would want.

**gigemaggs99** · 10-23-2011, 08:02 PM

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Originally posted by BlackBetty15

really? How so? Can you post some stats and what you are seeing? I want to give these a shot however I don't want to remove the patch- I wish ea would let us decide which patch we wanted to keep because patch 1 was all I would want.

I'm playing on PS3, I have the rosters that came out when the game came out not sure, maybe gatorbait, and I've installed all the patches and udpates. These sliders work GREAT in my opinion.

Here are 2 games, one with me as a good team (Oregon) and another with me as a lower level team (Col St.)

**Sydeburnz** · 10-23-2011, 09:01 PM

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Nice TV! Are you agreeing with or admonishing the stats

**NDalltheway** · 10-24-2011, 04:50 PM

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this slider set plays well both with and without the patch. I even feel that with the patch is slightly harder and ultimately better. I decided to use the sliders with the patches because im a huge fan of the live weather. The sliders are great either way though. Great job SEC!

**gigemaggs99** · 10-25-2011, 07:20 AM

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Originally posted by Sydeburnz

Nice TV! Are you agreeing with or admonishing the stats

I like these stats. And thanks on the t.v. I think it's a 36". I have it hooked up HDMI so it looks very crisp and clear.

However one thing that was strange last night, I was playing in my Col St offline dynasty. In the middle of the 3rd quarter my QB started throwing ducks like he does in the practice field. Like how we stated in an ealier post that he can't hit crap with QB accuracy at 0. I tried to throw a deep out to the left SE and he chunked the ball out of bounds ON THE RIGHT side of the field. Then I tried a screen pass and he basically spiked the ball.

I checked the injuries to see if he was hurt, it showed him to be fine. I put my backup QB in and he could throw just fine. I left my backup in until the middle/end of the 4th quarter, then put my starter back in (I was still losing at this point) and he could then throw normal again.

Has anyone else had this problem? My QB wasn't tired or worn out (i.e. he was still green on the playcall menu). So why would he all of a sudden start thowing ducks?

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