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  • madguitarskillz1
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    • May 2009
    • 41

    #1

    SHAKE BLITZ INSIDE 10 yd Line

    I played a guy last night who's record was like 90+ wins and 30 losses(PS3 SalvArmyMatt) . His defense was complete trash. I had no problem moving the ball on him quick. I run an air raid offense and he countered by either doing a shake blitz, dropping everyone into coverage with 1 spy dl, or press coverage of some sort(cover 1). He wasn't good at all. He couldn't stop me.

    I was Boise St. and he was Ok. St. The problem is when I would get in 2nd or 3rd and goal like on the 3, 4, or 5 yd line. I couldn't run it in. It was 155 shake blitz with run commit sometimes. Those linebackers were dancing all over the place and it worked. I got in pistol train hb off tackle, slam, goaline dive, qb sneak, and got stuffed(last night). As soon as I snapped the ball someone was in the backfield to make the tackle.

    Now, I've seen this defense alot. Sometimes I do beat it but not last night. I was forced to kick field goals and ended up losing a close game despite driving the ball consistently. I should've won easily.

    What are some run plays that yall use that are good CONSISTENTLY against this D inside the 10 especially if you run a passing offense. I'm looking for good stuff out of pistol, shotgun, or goaline but let me know what you have.
  • SalvArmyMatt
    Rookie
    • Nov 2011
    • 133

    #2
    Re: SHAKE BLITZ INSIDE 10 yd Line

    That was real smart going for it on 4th down with 30 seconds left... a FG would've won for sure. But, you went for it... and lost. Glad I found this today so I could further rub my victory in your face!!!

    Have a nice day.
    Go Big Red!!!

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    • madguitarskillz1
      Rookie
      • May 2009
      • 41

      #3
      Re: SHAKE BLITZ INSIDE 10 yd Line

      HA. kick the FG so you can just run around my o-line and block it. Either way I was screwed

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      • Brotha2ThaNight
        Rookie
        • Jun 2003
        • 144

        #4
        Re: SHAKE BLITZ INSIDE 10 yd Line

        you two are the prime reason why I never play online against anyone I do not know.

        have a good day

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        • SalvArmyMatt
          Rookie
          • Nov 2011
          • 133

          #5
          Re: SHAKE BLITZ INSIDE 10 yd Line

          I've played many people that run that 1-5-5 Shake Blitz..... you can't run out of a passing formation on it. You can run tosses off I formations that work on it. But, it kills the pistol and shotgun runs.
          Go Big Red!!!

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          • madguitarskillz1
            Rookie
            • May 2009
            • 41

            #6
            Re: SHAKE BLITZ INSIDE 10 yd Line

            Originally posted by Brotha2ThaNight
            you two are the prime reason why I never play online against anyone I do not know.

            have a good day
            LOL.. what did I do? Im just looking for ways to improve. I don't glitch. I play straight sim style. I just want a gg win or lose.

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            • lhinds7
              Rookie
              • Sep 2010
              • 155

              #7
              Re: SHAKE BLITZ INSIDE 10 yd Line

              Cool story, bro

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              • PowerofRed25
                MVP
                • Jul 2011
                • 1507

                #8
                Re: SHAKE BLITZ INSIDE 10 yd Line

                I don't understand why people have a problem with the "shake" blitz offensively. All you have to do it be quick to the flat a few times and they will be out of it pretty quickly.

                The problem with most people online, apparently the OP included, is that they panic when their go to stuff doesn't work and they don't know what to do. Now using a shake blitz as a base defense is pretty shady in it's own right, but using it as a change up, especially on 3rd and Medium to Long is a very smart call and something I do often out of my 3-3-5 defense. I actually usually just fake the shake blitz and drop into zone. I've gotten so many INT's from people trying to force a pass expecting 7 blitzers in his face.

                You cannot panic when you see something new or different on offense. Adjust. In this case, find your screen game, find your quick pass to the flat. OP, you run Air Raid like I do in a few Dyn's, so I assume you have Shotgun Trips or 4WR Trey Str in your playbook. Find the play called HB Swing and use it, use it early and often. It will destroy anyone who blitzes, shake blitz or not. If they want to keep bringing the blitzes, you keep dumping it off. If they keep pressing, you find your best release WR and get him running fades.

                Adjustments are the key to football people. Give them a try.

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                • madguitarskillz1
                  Rookie
                  • May 2009
                  • 41

                  #9
                  Re: SHAKE BLITZ INSIDE 10 yd Line

                  I didn't say that I can't beat it passing. Like I said earlier, I drove down the field easily. Its when I was inside the 5-10 where everything is tight that I had issues. Whenever I snapped the ball someone was already in the backfield as my rb got the ball. Sometimes the shake blitz out of 155 works even if its not a blitz play. Its a glitch BUT, my question was what running plays could you use where the blocking isn't so screwed up. I could've automotion my rb on flats with stick but I want to know running plays. So far nobody has come up with any.

                  As far as the hb swing play, I WOULD LOVE for you to explain how you get that to work. Houston uses it all the time in real life but the blocking always fails me in this video game on that play so I abandoned it.

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                  • BHavenBlazer
                    Rookie
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 119

                    #10
                    Re: SHAKE BLITZ INSIDE 10 yd Line

                    Wait, so the OP was talking about a game he played, and his opponent just so happened to post here? ****

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                    • L.A.V.A.
                      Rookie
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 33

                      #11
                      Re: SHAKE BLITZ INSIDE 10 yd Line

                      1. fade

                      2. slants

                      3. screen
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                      • PowerofRed25
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 1507

                        #12
                        Re: SHAKE BLITZ INSIDE 10 yd Line

                        Originally posted by madguitarskillz1
                        I didn't say that I can't beat it passing. Like I said earlier, I drove down the field easily. Its when I was inside the 5-10 where everything is tight that I had issues. Whenever I snapped the ball someone was already in the backfield as my rb got the ball. Sometimes the shake blitz out of 155 works even if its not a blitz play. Its a glitch BUT, my question was what running plays could you use where the blocking isn't so screwed up. I could've automotion my rb on flats with stick but I want to know running plays. So far nobody has come up with any.

                        As far as the hb swing play, I WOULD LOVE for you to explain how you get that to work. Houston uses it all the time in real life but the blocking always fails me in this video game on that play so I abandoned it.
                        I run that Swing play CONSTANTLY and have been stopped for a loss once. I run it so much, it is an audible that I use every time an opponent stacks the box (it helps that I run 3x1 formations more than any other and user opponents don't catch on).

                        The biggest key here is that it is a constraint play. It is all part of the numbers game in the box. If the defense either fails to match personnel OR fails to spread the D to the trips side, it is almost an automatic audible to the Swing.

                        You should make two reads here. The first is whether or not there is a defender head up on each WR to the trips side. If there is, don't run it. Even if the defender assigned to the HB is out of position, one of those 3 defenders outside will beat the block and get you. The second is IF the defense doesn't have defenders head up to each WR, find the safety. If he is shaded to that side of the field or he is walked up within 10 yards of the LOS, he is going to have a pretty good angle to stop it and the WR's NEVER block that safety. I don't really concern myself with linebackers because even if they are assigned man to man on the back, they usually won't be able to catch up with him.

                        Any time you get 6 or 7 in the box, you should run this. Any time you see the defense in zone, with the extra defender on the backside of the formation and not enough defenders to the play side, you should run this BUT make sure that SS isn't cheating down because he probably has the flat zone and will blow this up.

                        The biggest threat to this play is a zone blitz with the corner sitting down in flat zone. In that case, you just pray your WR blocks him or you can break the tackle.

                        As for throwing it. I throw it almost immediately after the HB clears the tackle box, as hard as I possibly can. 9 times out of 10, he catches it on the run and I just read my blocks and go. Occasionally I have to hold it just a half second longer to make sure my back out runs a LB assigned to him in man coverage.

                        Go to practice mode and get a feel for making the numbers read and the timing of the pass. The blocks will be there if you make the right read. I usually pair this up with a backside slant hot route to the solo WR side, just in case.

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                        • IamLEGENDsince87
                          MVP
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 1268

                          #13
                          Re: SHAKE BLITZ INSIDE 10 yd Line

                          WAIT, so his defense was trash and he "wasnt good at all" but he beat you? did I miss something


                          and I get sick of people complaining about how somebody plays, do you see coaches in real life complaining about another team running the same play or calling the same blitzes, etc. If theres a glitch for it to work im almost CERTAIN theres a way to beat it...your job as a coach is to out scheme and beat the other person...and if your gonna bash somebody then at least beat them before you say they arent good lol

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                          • madguitarskillz1
                            Rookie
                            • May 2009
                            • 41

                            #14
                            Re: SHAKE BLITZ INSIDE 10 yd Line

                            Originally posted by IamLEGENDsince87
                            WAIT, so his defense was trash and he "wasnt good at all" but he beat you? did I miss something


                            and I get sick of people complaining about how somebody plays, do you see coaches in real life complaining about another team running the same play or calling the same blitzes, etc. If theres a glitch for it to work im almost CERTAIN theres a way to beat it...your job as a coach is to out scheme and beat the other person...and if your gonna bash somebody then at least beat them before you say they arent good lol
                            OK sir. Learn to read.
                            1. The whole point of the thread was to find out schemes to beat this. SPECIFICALLY RUNNING PLAYS. I know how to beat it by passing. I lost by a field goal or something like that because I tried to run it when I got close to the goalline. I stated earlier that I moved the ball at will but then got too conservative. Even he knows that I should've won that game but that glitch worked against my running attempts.

                            All I asked for is RUNNING PLAYS that people used against this. THANK YOU.

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                            • blkrptnt819
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 2055

                              #15
                              Originally posted by madguitarskillz1
                              OK sir. Learn to read.
                              1. The whole point of the thread was to find out schemes to beat this. SPECIFICALLY RUNNING PLAYS. I know how to beat it by passing. I lost by a field goal or something like that because I tried to run it when I got close to the goalline. I stated earlier that I moved the ball at will but then got too conservative. Even he knows that I should've won that game but that glitch worked against my running attempts.

                              All I asked for is RUNNING PLAYS that people used against this. THANK YOU.
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