NBA 2K12 DLC Arrives This Holiday Season with 45 All-New Legends - Screens & Teaser

[dkrause1971]

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I'm not buying this...I wish we could use the players in other modes....

For me this is what it will boils down too. Whether its hex, the DLC itself. I won't purchase it if i cannot use in other modes.

[Sundown]

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Honestly, I have to say the cel-shading looks worse than I imagined. I don't quite understand why they would obscure the great graphics in this game with a somewhat hastily developed cel-shader using models and textures that weren't designed for it. And if you aren't able to turn it off, it means that you can't really see the new legends artwork in its full glory-- only through the nasty shader that distorts and flattens out their features. It almost makes me wonder if the shader was implemented to hide the fact that the new Legends artwork wasn't up to snuff. Probably not the case but it's a bizarre presentation choice for the franchise.

If it's true that we can't use the new jerseys and players in other modes, then it seems 2K is continuing the trend this year of giving us something, then frustrating us by not allowing us to do the no-brainer thing we all want to do with it:

No MyPlayer sliders.
No sliders for online associations.
Online associations but no more leagues (or crew).
No classic presentation outside of very specific predetermined single player matches.
No Legends trading.
No Legends online.

At least the last two are fixed with a $10 DLC (the only reason to really get the DLC in my opinion, and maybe the MyPlayer enhancement), but it does point out that these features were arbitrarily withheld to add value to the DLC. It's hard not to see this as anything but a cash grab, but at least it's slightly forgiveable because of the impact of the lockout. Still, if speculations are correct, then the DLC would add more content with the same sort of arbitrary restrictions the game was launched with. I would much rather 2K just regularly release classic team packs (or even single players) that can be used with the full game instead of distractions that add little to the main game. I really hope this isn't the case.

It's really odd that as likely as I am to get the DLC, there's a part of me that's a bit hesitant and almost wants to forgo it out of principle. How did we get here from a month ago with the game that I was most hyped about for the longest time? I would have gladly bought any DLC then if only to support 2K. Now I'm actually a little reluctant-- maybe because it feels like this year, somewhere along the line, 2K stopped doing us favors. Instead of treats, we're getting what was purposefully withheld, packaged with features and odd choices we didn't quite ask for.

Oh well. At least we can get some of the new "Legends" into the main game through 2Kshare now since they were already on the disk as Pacers and Suns players that remained locked because 2K wasn't able to get Reggie or Barkley. I'm kind of happy about Rick Barry though.

[RedPhazon8]

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This isn't on my holiday wish list atm, just not not getting into it...

[lsalas76]

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Honestly, I have to say the cel-shading looks worse than I imagined. I don't quite understand why they would obscure the great graphics in this game with a somewhat hastily developed cel-shader using models and textures that weren't designed for it. And if you aren't able to turn it off, it means that you can't really see the new legends artwork in its full glory-- only through the nasty shader that distorts and flattens out their features. It almost makes me wonder if the shader was implemented to hide the fact that the new Legends artwork wasn't up to snuff. Probably not the case but it's a bizarre presentation choice for the franchise.

If it's true that we can't use the new jerseys and players in other modes, then it seems 2K is continuing the trend this year of giving us something, then frustrating us by not allowing us to do the no-brainer thing we all want to do with it:

No MyPlayer sliders.
No sliders for online associations.
Online associations but no more leagues (or crew).
No classic presentation outside of very specific predetermined single player matches.
No Legends trading.
No Legends online.

At least the last two are fixed with a $10 DLC (the only reason to really get the DLC in my opinion, and maybe the MyPlayer enhancement), but it does point out that these features were arbitrarily withheld to add value to the DLC. It's hard not to see this as anything but a cash grab, but at least it's slightly forgiveable because of the impact of the lockout. Still, if speculations are correct, then the DLC would add more content with the same sort of arbitrary restrictions the game was launched with. I would much rather 2K just regularly release classic team packs (or even single players) that can be used with the full game instead of distractions that add little to the main game. I really hope this isn't the case.

It's really odd that as likely as I am to get the DLC, there's a part of me that's a bit hesitant and almost wants to forgo it out of principle. How did we get here from a month ago with the game that I was most hyped about for the longest time? I would have gladly bought any DLC then if only to support 2K. Now I'm actually a little reluctant-- maybe because it feels like this year, somewhere along the line, 2K stopped doing us favors. Instead of treats, we're getting what was purposefully withheld, packaged with features and odd choices we didn't quite ask for.

Oh well. At least we can get some of the new "Legends" into the main game through 2Kshare now since they were already on the disk as Pacers and Suns players that remained locked because 2K wasn't able to get Reggie or Barkley. I'm kind of happy about Rick Barry though.

Well said I agree with you 100%. We won't be able to get the new legends into the main game itself tho

[sportjames23]

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Maybe taking on the brunt of that anger won't be such a bad thing for 2k. Maybe they can learn something from it. Of course, that'll mean that the anger will have to be channeled productively, but I don't think that will be a huge problem. 2k seems to have a pretty damn good filter.

Looking at this thread, what are people saying?

"I wish we could use these players in the regular game."

"They finally got a bunch of jersey's that people have been begging for for years now in the game, and we can't use them..."

"This is dumb. I have no desire to play NBA Street. Why can't we use these guys in the regular game?"

"I'm not paying 10 bucks just so I can have some modes and options available to me that were in last years retail version."

Just looking at this thread, and the other thread that announced this DLC, and it's pretty much a consensus that this at best doesn't do much for anyone. In fact, it's having an opposite affect from the intended one with some people. I was talking to a couple of friends of mine, and when the topic of this DLC came up, both of them decided to just say "screw it" and go back to 2k11 (One of them already has, and he insists that it was the best gaming decision he's made in the last five years.)

I understand that this is just a forum, a relatively small sample size of the overall market to 2k. But here's the thing; this forum, and forums like it, represent 2k's base. And, as any politician will tell you, you never alienate your base. In fact, you normally go out of your way to appease them. That hasn't happened here. So while casual gamers may love this new game mode and everything else that comes with the DLC, 2k is still going to have to deal with hearing constant complaints about it for the next year from their most important fans. Not fun.

Releasing a DLC package that allowed us to use all of these legends and have all of these jersey's in the actual game would have made both casual gamers and the 2k series die-hards very happy. This package doesn't do that.

It doesn't happen often, but 2k might have really dropped the ball on this one. Hopefully they can take it as a learning experience, so that next time they can give the fans what they really want... Even if it is another year and another $60 + away...

Well said. You guys know I'm a 2K mark, but they dropped the ball on this one. I'm tempted to get this, but only if these additional players can be hexed.

[KGDunks]

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Do we have an option to turn off the borderlands effect?

[DoWork]

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Do we have an option to turn off the borderlands effect?

I highly doubt that 2k will give users an option to turn off the cartoon effect.

[KGDunks]

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Will not buy then.

[SIZEqueen]

you know what's really hilarious is that we're all making fun of Shawn Bradley and Muresan..

you know, you just know that someone out there will spend all of his waking moments mastering those two becoming a master of their games and then you'll be seeing people cry and complain and threads come up

"SHAWN BRADLEY IS TOO GOOD IN THIS GAME!"

"HOW DO I BEAT GEORGE MURESAN?!"

hahaha!

Hahaha, I agree dude, but there's one problem...Bradley didn't have a game!

[Dachozen1]

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can't use none of these guys in the main game?? i don't care about all that extra ****, I just care about using these guys in association..

[SIZEqueen]

While I appreciate the list as it is very, very impressive, I won't purchase this. If I'm honest, I'd prefer no cell shading and again being honest - that is some real ugly cell shading. I loved street, but this is shaping up to be a poor mans version, especially in the looks department. I'd buy a new street tomorrow if it dropped though.

I'm gonna be the broken record and agree with the sentiment that while this is awesome (and it really, really is) I'm gonna say thanks, but no. I want 2k to fix 2k12. I don't want one single more second of time and resources invested into anything but 2k12's gameplay. There's a list as long as a country mile of bugs and issues with the game I bought. I'd prefer efforts were focused on that.

Mad props to them with this though. This is some (mostly) good marketing.

[Playmakers]

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Shawn Bradley is a Legend



I guess it's cool Dallas finally got some love but Shawn Bradley was on the same level as Chris Antsey, Uwe Blab, Kurt Nimphius and Pat Cummings

[brian05fubu]

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Let's all be honest here. Cel-shading looks terrible. The only good thing about it is we can do whatever we want to do with the classic teams, which should've been in the game in the first place. 2K = Fail

[Sundown]

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Let's all be honest here. Cel-shading looks terrible. The only good thing about it is we can do whatever we want to do with the classic teams, which should've been in the game in the first place. 2K = Fail

Funny enough, this is one time 2K can VASTLY improve their product by simply switching a feature off. I would be a lot more interested in the Time Square Legends mode if it didn't look that hokey.

[STLRams]

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I wish a Dev or someone from 2K would chime in and clear this up. I thought when this was originally announced that part of the DLC would be the ability to edit the legend teams, add players to the teams and add the new legend players to anyteam we want and play with them in offline quick games, association games. If this is not part of the DLC then this is a no buy for me. I've supported and bought 2K products for years, but why would they offer a DLC and tease us with the idea of adding more legend players to teams and having total control of the legend teams, but not giving us the option to do this. Im really hoping this is part of the DLC... if not I can't support this DLC.