OS Roundtable: The Player Tendencies Snafu - Short Term Blunder or Long Term Mistake?

[frankrizzo380]

First thing guys, nice write-up and thanks for sharing, its almost like OS's response to utopia's "letter" just a few weeks ago, but i have a question, to OS's "gamechangers"/community day guys, "will there still be a need for your presents in tiburon?" "do you guys still want the title?" "Can it still hold any merit?" These aren't questions that i wanna kno personally but rather just a few questions you guys should ask/answer yourself, my response tho, after reading this is simply, "my name is Toris Ford, and i will not be purchasing NCAA Football next year"

[therealslimshady]

Re: OS Roundtable: The Player Tendencies Snafu - Short Term Blunder or Long Term Mist

Great Read! IMO with '13 I will be waiting until some sap trades it in to the local game shop. I will not ever be giving EA any more money until this stuff stops. Also how can they have an "exclusive license" these days? I thought it was illegal to have a monopoly? What if the OS'ers here started a new company? What if a company created a new NCAA game and took EA to court for said Monopoly? There are too many What IF's for me to trust/give money to EA in the future until this broken *** game is fixed.

It really is too bad because I don't play too many FPS games. Most of my gaming buddies have moved away for work and the only interaction we can get or "hanging out" if you will is playing sports games and that is in our 12 team dynasty. Its too bad that most of us will not be buying this game next year as we really enjoy "hanging out" with this game. I really hope that EA can get 13 correct.

Hell MAYBE they should just do a re-release next year and call it NCAA 12 because it will be 2012 anyways and EA just looks stupid calling a game NCAA 12 when 99% of the season is completed in 2011 anyways...

[prowler]

Re: OS Roundtable: The Player Tendencies Snafu - Short Term Blunder or Long Term Mist

What's really going to hurt NCAA 13 will be the lack of a home run feature that EA can use to distance it from the glaring issues of NCAA 12. Just looking at the Wishlist Tourney on TGT there isn't one must have feature listed; it's a huge list of Improved X or Y 2.0. Without a major feature to hype to death, EA will have to rely on improving existing features to win over detractors and that's never been their strength.

[TajDeni]

i didnt read thru every post so my apologies if this has already been mentioned...

while player tendencies is a huge issue and the ppl who this effects most have every right to be fed up. what i would like an answer to is how all the media outlets and folks from the community posted all those videos and articles about NCAA 12, yet not 1 person mentioned that custom playbooks was a disaster. seriously how does that happen.

not 1 review that i read about the game mention that custom playbooks was a completely broken feature. how about this, maybe i was content with ncaa 11 but i went out and spent the money on '12 because of the publicized feature of custom playbooks, yet 10's of reviews came out and not 1 review from a major media gameing outlet mentions that custome playbooks doesnt work. can someone involved please explain how something like this is even possible.

1 trip into and 1 exit out of custom playbooks and i knew there was a major problem, i cant speak for anyone else but its gettin to a point if its not already there where the customers cant trust EA or the various outlets to provide us with the truth...

they do realise we work 4 our money dont they...

this is not a rant, i would like an answer, please.

[Playmakers]

Re: OS Roundtable: The Player Tendencies Snafu - Short Term Blunder or Long Term Mist

I used to get upset over NCAA 12.....the game turned out to be more hype than substance this year.

I've pretty much gone back exclusively to NCAA 11 and don't even sweat it no more.

NCAA 11 actually offers up some very solid gameplay and the sliders all work the way they are suppose to work.

So for me personally NCAA 11 & Madden 12 have allowed me to enjoy some football games this year.

Next year i can gurantee myself i won't be buying NCAA 13 on release day. I will waite about 2-4 weeks before i give in because i'm tired of the half @$$ job by this company on their college game. You simply don't know what your going to get from year to year anymore.

[carnalnirvana]

Re: OS Roundtable: The Player Tendencies Snafu - Short Term Blunder or Long Term Mist

its not even about the $65 anymore for me.....i can afford it easily....

its not even about the(new issues)like tendencies being broken, we are already all accustomed to something being broken year to year.....

its about the same issues year to year not being fixed/addressed while something new will be introduced again next year..

i just fix the tendencies for my conference, ncaa has become like an rpg for me i find myself spending more time in menu's(edit player) and grinding trials for my edits than actually playing for fun.... its pathetic

[southriver]

I just wish we could get 2 year development cycles instead of "pushing another game out the door" just so EA can get their bank account full. No other Genre puts out a continuing title every year. These developers need time and 1 year is NOT enough.

[canes21]

Re: OS Roundtable: The Player Tendencies Snafu - Short Term Blunder or Long Term Mist

I just wish we could get 2 year development cycles instead of "pushing another game out the door" just so EA can get their bank account full. No other Genre puts out a continuing title every year. These developers need time and 1 year is NOT enough.

Call of Duty....

[Playmakers]

Re: OS Roundtable: The Player Tendencies Snafu - Short Term Blunder or Long Term Mist

its not even about the $65 anymore for me.....i can afford it easily....

its not even about the(new issues)like tendencies being broken, we are already all accustomed to something being broken year to year.....

its about the same issues year to year not being fixed/addressed while something new will be introduced again next year..

i just fix the tendencies for my conference, ncaa has become like an rpg for me i find myself spending more time in menu's(edit player) and grinding trials for my edits than actually playing for fun.... its pathetic

well for starters i think these issues occur every year because EA IMO doesn't have any real game testers

i honestly believe they use the OS community and few others to be their game testers....from a business standpoint it's smart because you don't have to pay anyone to test your games

From a consumer standpoint it sucks unless your just a casual gamer who doesn't really get into under the hood things

[Radja]

this has as much to do with EA as the people who review the game. i traded in a bunch of games for this based on the review so i am not out much. but no review mentioned anything. in fact, with some of the broken features, some reviews hyped them even more than EA.

i will never buy a game (or trade for) based on reviews ever again. that includes OS. their review failed on some pretty big glitches also to meet the deadline. in fact, the simulation and long term dynasty features were given glowing remarks.

[Layoneil]

Call of Duty....

CoD has Treyarch and Infinity Ward alternating every 2 years. those games also have very different sales numbers and budgets.

[SECElit3]

Re: OS Roundtable: The Player Tendencies Snafu - Short Term Blunder or Long Term Mist

In my opinion EA has a made a huge mistake with the way they handled this year's issues. We saw it not only with NCAA 12, but with Fight Night. I have said it before and I will say it again; there is a bigger issue here. There seems to be a lack of pride in their product and a lack of appreciation for their customer.

I for one have been a huge fan of the series. I have been able to overlook the issues for the last 3 years, but this year is different. The bugs and glitches made it almost unplayable for me. Twice, I had to restart my dynasty due to freezes and I am not sure I will make it through my dynasty this year.

A game should not be stressful to play; NCAA 12 was.

With that being said, I definitely will hold off purchasing NCAA 13 next year and tune Ben out all together. That guy is just ridiculous.

They didn't get my business for Battlefield or Madden, and may lose my business for NCAA.

[thelasthurtknee]

Re: OS Roundtable: The Player Tendencies Snafu - Short Term Blunder or Long Term Mist

I agree with alot of what you guys say but I believe that this issue trully comes from the crappy engine built for madden and ncaa very early on in the life of this gen then putting layer upon layer on top of it in coding and never really having the base they needed. I don't buy the tester bs. they have hundreds of testers right her in Baton Rouge. two years ago they found over 300,000 bugs they removed. But you have to remember the testers have a short time and they are trully lookiing for game crashes and coding issues that would cause the game to not work. and yea they missed a few but the testers probably arent looking for things like if a balanced qb turns into a pocket passer when you edit him. but the guys in house who are playing every day and supposed to know football should of caught it. its just layer upon layer of crap until they don't release the game every year. hopefully they learned their lesson and don't rush to release this title on next gen. it was garbage for three years on this gen while they put out the best ncaa titles on ps2 during that time. Ive been playing this title since the bill walsh days and never been so upset with a ncaa title but at the same time it has the most potential of all the games they have ever made. its hard to support such a flawed game. and as far a ben goes, that fat lazy f u c k better get it together because he is a big reason ea tiburon looks like a joke. i find it beyond funny that they made a show of the making of this enormous turd. SEC, got to thank you for your work on trying to make this game playable. I have to play as a OC to use ur sliders without the patches which made it so easy to run the ball even on heisman that the game was unplayable for me. You brought me back in.. much thanks brother. and if someone has a problem with my opinion on ben, grow a pair. that *** clown is a joke of a leader and looked how fast he became invisible when he realized how bad it was. P U S S Y !!!!!!

[BigDuke]

Re: OS Roundtable: The Player Tendencies Snafu - Short Term Blunder or Long Term Mist

I didn't purchase NCAA 12 until after the second patch. Now I wish I hadn't.

I won't be purchasing NCAA 13 on release day, if at all. Will wait to see what/how many bugs will be in that game.

[SECElit3]

Re: OS Roundtable: The Player Tendencies Snafu - Short Term Blunder or Long Term Mist

I truly hope the gaming sites take it to Ben this year and really drill him on the issues with NCAA 12. It will be fun to watch him squirm. To me he is nothing more than a sleazy thief.