Blocking schemes in madden

[rook2121]

Ive seen a cpl comments in threads about the different blocking scheme people like to use but that was a while a go, so seeing I anyone's figured anything new out, maybe different schemes for different ball running sliders?

[rook2121]

On sweeps left or right obviously block left and right is the way to go, but what about running effectively up the middle?

[packerfan28]

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I tend to pinch my line when I run a draw or zone run. Pinching the line usually forces the dline into the middle and the ends are free to run outside the tackle. I actually get good yards when I call draws and I do that.

[KBLover]

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On sweeps left or right obviously block left and right is the way to go, but what about running effectively up the middle?

I use Aggressive on dives/inside zone/off-tackle power runs and pinch on draw plays.

[rook2121]

It would be sweet if we could pull a guard or tackle whenever we wanted, or design a playmaker call for the line/tight end, like call for a chip then get to the next level block, I wish I wish

[TNT713]

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I use base protections mostly, but when I change the protection I Pinch protection 99.999% of the time. I've used right/left about 4 times since Madden '05 and Aggressive twice.

That said, I'm usually blocking with at least 6.

Later

[RogueHominid]

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On inside runs I really like to go aggressive. This gives you a great chance to get a big push or pancake on the DT, and potentially on the DE as well if there's a TE and T doubling up. That can make a really nice hole.

On stretch plays, I like to slide to that side. It puts the T reaching out to the LB and the G to the DE, leaving the TE to seal the edge better. The lone risk is the C being able to slide over to cover the DT. If your C is fast and agile, you're good. If the DT is fast and aware, you might have problems.

On shotgun runs, I've recently found that sliding the line makes a huge difference. You can run off tackle plays, sweeps, powers and bases from the Gun even against base sets and rolled-down Cover 3 looks if you slide the line to the play side. That discovery was a big one for me, as it opened up a huge part of my playbook that I never used.

A recent thing I've noticed on pass plays: If you have a play that naturally keeps a TE in and you see the LDE lined up over the TE, your TE and RT will NOT block that DE unless you go aggressive. If you see that sort of wide alignment, an aggressive adjustment will allow you better to cut off the wide rush from all the other lineman as well and will give you room to step up.

I've found that it's not always necessary to pinch the OL on pass plays, but it's smart to do it when you're throwing a short pass. Then you want to hot route your back to block to the side of the most dangerous DT and get the ball out ASAP.

When you see the sugar blitz look, I actually think it's best to make no adjustment save keeping the back in. If you pinch and the LBs bluff, you're hosed. If you go aggressive to match the wide DL rush and the LBs come, you're done. So I like to just sit pat with that look and keep my hot receiver in sight until I see I'm safe to progress to later reads.

[DJ]

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Those are some great tips, Troj! I'll be using some of them for sure when I re-boot my Franchise (default All-Pro) using the Broncos.

[VideoTyrant]

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The guys at Maddenbible, SGibs and Zfarls recently tested a 100 runs of every type with each slide protection for each sample and they said that they found no difference at all in slide protection for running plays it is simply a pass protection technique. It simply provides a placebo effect for running plays but doesn't impact the actual play. I guess slide protection should work like this as running plays are designed to be blocked the same for each particular running play no matter what the defensive front. The QB doesn't adjust the protection scheme for runs just switches where the run will go or what type of run it is, and is not like passing plays where you do need to adjust to overloads, edge rushes, or A gap pressures etc.

[pegout]

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i always thought line shifts only worked on pass plays and draws?

[lofeazy]

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i always thought line shifts only worked on pass plays and draws?

Thats what i thought too.

[Aolian_Am]

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The guys at Maddenbible, SGibs and Zfarls recently tested a 100 runs of every type with each slide protection for each sample and they said that they found no difference at all in slide protection for running plays it is simply a pass protection technique. It simply provides a placebo effect for running plays but doesn't impact the actual play. I guess slide protection should work like this as running plays are designed to be blocked the same for each particular running play no matter what the defensive front. The QB doesn't adjust the protection scheme for runs just switches where the run will go or what type of run it is, and is not like passing plays where you do need to adjust to overloads, edge rushes, or A gap pressures etc.

from my experience this isn't true. from what i've found there is always a correct answer for whatever the defense is doing, and it effects both running and passing plays. i also see a lot of people say that they will audible there line based on whatever play they are doing, which i've also found you shouldn't do. now i used to think that what you audibled your o-line to depended on what play the defense called, but i'm really starting to think that what adjustments the defense does plays a factor too. i also am starting to think what adjustments you make on offense will change the "correct answer" is. to really start seeing what i'm seeing you need to audible your o-line every play, you will see when you make wrong adjustments and be amazed how well your line blocks on plays when you make right ones. you will see your o-line get downfield, kick-out and create alleys, you will get pancake blocks.

p.s. i also believe this is the reason cpu pass blocking is so good on all-madden and why cpu d gives you no time to throw the ball, the cpu o is audibling there line correctly every play, and the game wants you to audible the line on offense

also what people are saying about never audibling left or right. this seems to be true more so for pass plays, and when not playing the cpu. on run plays i'm finding left or right to be the correct answer more often, or the answer that will create the biggest alleys and seals.

another thing is i have been saying that there is only one correct answer. i think you can make bad adjusment and still get big plays, it just makes it a lot harder and forces you the player to make a big play, as opposed to everything setting up correctly and it being a reletively easy big play, you can still mess it up though with poor playing

[pegout]

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from my experience this isn't true. from what i've found there is always a correct answer for whatever the defense is doing, and it effects both running and passing plays. i also see a lot of people say that they will audible there line based on whatever play they are doing, which i've also found you shouldn't do. now i used to think that what you audibled your o-line to depended on what play the defense called, but i'm really starting to think that what adjustments the defense does plays a factor too. i also am starting to think what adjustments you make on offense will change the "correct answer" is. to really start seeing what i'm seeing you need to audible your o-line every play, you will see when you make wrong adjustments and be amazed how well your line blocks on plays when you make right ones. you will see your o-line get downfield, kick-out and create alleys, you will get pancake blocks.

p.s. i also believe this is the reason cpu pass blocking is so good on all-madden and why cpu d gives you no time to throw the ball, the cpu o is audibling there line correctly every play, and the game wants you to audible the line on offense

also what people are saying about never audibling left or right. this seems to be true more so for pass plays, and when not playing the cpu. on run plays i'm finding left or right to be the correct answer more often, or the answer that will create the biggest alleys and seals.

another thing is i have been saying that there is only one correct answer. i think you can make bad adjusment and still get big plays, it just makes it a lot harder and forces you the player to make a big play, as opposed to everything setting up correctly and it being a reletively easy big play, you can still mess it up though with poor playing

it doesnt work on run plays(only draws) from what iv tryed. say a runs going to the right and i set my line to block left their still going to block right

[Aolian_Am]

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it doesnt work on run plays(only draws) from what iv tryed. say a runs going to the right and i set my line to block left their still going to block right

true, but they will still block differently. try going to practice pick a play on o and d than try that play 10x with one line audible and see how the blocking develops. now try with the opposite and see how the play develops.

[VideoTyrant]

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true, but they will still block differently. try going to practice pick a play on o and d than try that play 10x with one line audible and see how the blocking develops. now try with the opposite and see how the play develops.

That is exactly what the MaddenBible guys did 100 times for each and every type of run with each and every type of adjustment (100 runs sweep left line adjust left, 100 runs sweep left adjust line right, 100 runs sweep left adjust line aggressive etc.) and they claimed it had 0 effect on result....so either there test wasn't accurate, the differences are so minor its hard to tell, or the line adjustments simply have 0 effect on running plays and the blocking scheme is predetermined every time by which type of run you select. And based on personal tests and the tests these Madden savy guys have done I think the latter is probably the case.