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**nuckles2k2** · 11-19-2011, 02:42 PM

Re: So all these players are better mid-range shooters than Kobe?

I'm willing to bet that Kobe has better shooting abilities than all of those players. Which instantly makes him more useful because he has more weapons.

Ratings alone aren't everything.

**_-King-_** · 11-19-2011, 02:44 PM

Re: So all these players are better mid-range shooters than Kobe?

Well you never know, 2K could have some inside information. Just because these players don't shoot as much as Kobe doesn't mean they aren't secretly deadly mid shooters.

**ronyell** · 11-19-2011, 02:50 PM

Re: So all these players are better mid-range shooters than Kobe?

u have to take ALL things into account. i REALLY get frustrated when people fixate on ONE rating to determine a players ability... i do NOT dispute that 2k grossly misrates players BUT they have given us so many other factors that factor into a players IN-GAME play which is what matters MOST.

people should gauge how the GAME PLAYS a lil more often & not be SO critical of the ratings. if 2 k rated Kobe with ONLY one shot rating &maxed it out, he would NOT play how he plays IRL in the game.

**slimm44** · 11-19-2011, 02:51 PM

Re: So all these players are better mid-range shooters than Kobe?

Originally posted by bballswish

So according to this game, all of these players are better mid-range shooters than Kobe Bryant:

Zabian Dowdell
Jared Dudley
Luke Ridnour
Wayne Ellington
Raymond Felton
Nick Young
Yi Jianlian
Josh Howard
Jordan Crawford
Luther Head
Marreese Speights
Spender Hawes
Jrue Holiday
Matt Carrol
Gerald Henderson
Dane Cunningham
Tyrus Thomas
DJ Augustin
Drew Gooden
Earl Boykins
Beno Udrih
Luke Harangody
Joey Graham
Christian Eyenga
Anthony Parker
Carlos Arroyo
Nenad Krstic
Jeff Green
Darrel Arthur
Josh Powell
Juwan Howard
Jason Smith
Willie Green
David Andersen
Anthony Morrow
Will Bynum
Demar Derozan

2k sports better inform players, scouts, and coaches in the NBA so that they can adjust their scouting reports accordingly.

I am assuming in 2k13, there will be a few dozen better dunkers than Blake Griffin and Gerald Wallace.

How long did it take you to make that list? I'll set the over/under at 37.5 minutes and take the over. Probably could've figured out something more constructive to do with your time than make a list that doesn't matter, like offer to help one of the dozens of roster makers on this site make a good game better by making realistic rosters. Just a thought.

And I'll take Anthony Morrow in a jump-shooting contest against Kobe everyday of the week and twice on Sunday. His jumper is absolutely money. Basically the only reason he is in the league, and getting rotation minutes to boot. When a player has one skill that not only keeps them in the league but also gets them PT, you can bet it's an elite skill.

**TheKasmar** · 11-19-2011, 03:01 PM

Re: So all these players are better mid-range shooters than Kobe?

Checkout his abilities, consistency,otd,sit, and offensive awareness. I was shocked to find that Brandon Jennings mid-range rating is only in the high 60's because I dont have any problem hitting mid-range jumpers with him. His other ratings are at play not only mid-range. On the other hand, Drew Gooden and Ersan IIyasova have low 90's mid range, but dont make every shot because of the other ratings mentioned.

Take somebody like Stephen Jackson who only has a 73 rating in mid-range. Now look at his ability to fadeaway which is rated great. He's very similar to Kobe in the fact that offensively when they get hot they are hard to stop when you put their ablities to use.

**yungsta404** · 11-19-2011, 03:12 PM

Re: So all these players are better mid-range shooters than Kobe?

they may have a better mid range rating than kobe but i guaranteed you cant light people up from mid range with them as good as kobe.

Go ahead and try it

**keshunleon** · 11-19-2011, 03:30 PM

Re: So all these players are better mid-range shooters than Kobe?

Rashidi explained this about a month ago.

Kobe's mid is lower because he takes more fade away jumpers and contested shots.

Most of those guys mids are wide open jumpers... If someone contest is or is near them they miss it. I played a few games with the Bucks and Gooden miss 4 out 5 jumpers if a defend is near him but he is money all alone.

SIT plays a roll also plus Kobe takes more close shots anyway...

**JWM1012512514** · 11-19-2011, 03:57 PM

Re: So all these players are better mid-range shooters than Kobe?

Kobe probably has all his shooting abilities at "Great", making him more useful. As said before ITT, it's not all in the ratings.

**G35skyline** · 11-19-2011, 04:14 PM

Re: So all these players are better mid-range shooters than Kobe?

IT looks like 2K may be basing the ratings on player percentages, so these guys may have a better mid range percentage for the 2010/11 NBA season, but like everyone else in here is saying, the ratings dont tell the whole story..

And Anthony Morrow is the only player on that list that is a better shooter than Kobe, and even that is only by spotting up catch and shoot type a deal, Kobe is the greatest ever at creating his own shot from the triple threat position.
I can catch the ball with Kobe create for myself and pull up hit shots on 2 guys all game long right in their face, I guarantee you can never do that with any of the players on that list

**thugnificant** · 11-19-2011, 04:38 PM

Re: So all these players are better mid-range shooters than Kobe?

based on % these players are better shooters than kobe from mid because he is a VOLUME jumpshooter. if you watch laker games consistantly its a well known fact he misses more than he makes unlike a player like dirk. Those shooting abillities work in your favor but if you playing a good on ball defender kobe wont make a jumper on HOF SIM online. With increased D awareness in the patch kobe wont be consistaly doing pullup jumpers over 2 defenders like somone quoted earlier because mid sliders were also requested to be dropped.

**RyanFitzmagic** · 11-19-2011, 04:56 PM

Re: So all these players are better mid-range shooters than Kobe?

Originally posted by keshunleon

Rashidi explained this about a month ago.

Kobe's mid is lower because he takes more fade away jumpers and contested shots.

Most of those guys mids are wide open jumpers... If someone contest is or is near them they miss it. I played a few games with the Bucks and Gooden miss 4 out 5 jumpers if a defend is near him but he is money all alone.

SIT plays a roll also plus Kobe takes more close shots anyway...

So, people just take whatever Rashidi says as gospel?

That makes no sense. The fact that Kobe's mid-range jumpers are mostly contested and/or fadeaways would mean that his mid-range rating should be HIGHER, not lower, than spot-up shooters who only take wide open jumpers. Kobe is taking extremely difficult shots, and still making them at a respectable clip.

However... I'm sure that Kobe's Shoot Off Dribble, Shoot In Traffic, etc. ratings are all higher than most (if not all) of the players OP listed. So it balances out. It's fine, if that is the case.

**DukeC** · 11-19-2011, 08:44 PM

Re: So all these players are better mid-range shooters than Kobe?

Originally posted by RyanFitzmagic

So, people just take whatever Rashidi says as gospel?

That makes no sense. The fact that Kobe's mid-range jumpers are mostly contested and/or fadeaways would mean that his mid-range rating should be HIGHER, not lower, than spot-up shooters who only take wide open jumpers. Kobe is taking extremely difficult shots, and still making them at a respectable clip.

However... I'm sure that Kobe's Shoot Off Dribble, Shoot In Traffic, etc. ratings are all higher than most (if not all) of the players OP listed. So it balances out. It's fine, if that is the case.

You just answered yourself....

**bballswish** · 11-20-2011, 02:07 AM

Re: So all these players are better mid-range shooters than Kobe?

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**bballswish** · 11-20-2011, 02:09 AM

Re: So all these players are better mid-range shooters than Kobe?

So Kobe's mid-range rating gets decreased because he is capable of making more difficult midrange shots?

IF that question is too difficult to answer without spewing all that misleading logic(based on shooting variables) that are full of refutable holes like you guys just did, here is a simpler question:

So when completely wide-open, in ideal situations, all of those players are better mid-range shooters than Kobe?

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