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  • Seymour Scagnetti
    Banned
    • Oct 2006
    • 2489

    #91
    Re: WWE 12 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

    Has anybody seem small package pin attempts? I don't know how to do it and I'm assuming it's a successful reversal from the AI's finisher move but I thought a reversal of a finisher just stops it and gives you a stored finisher. And I have had my finisher blocked but have yet to see the AI attempt a small package pin in any circumstance. I remember seeing it in videos so it's kinda odd I have yet to see it attempted in al the hours I've played the game.

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    • Jukeman
      Showtime
      • Aug 2005
      • 10955

      #92
      Sorry but pin meter sucks and not because I cant kick out but because I can kick out every time unless my body is fully red and the bar is barely visible.

      I always hated skill based mini games in video games that involve ratings...Attributes should determine something like this, for example recovery...


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      • Seymour Scagnetti
        Banned
        • Oct 2006
        • 2489

        #93
        Re: WWE 12 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

        Originally posted by Jukeman
        Sorry but pin meter sucks and not because I cant kick out but because I can kick out every time unless my body is fully red and the bar is barely visible.

        I always hated skill based mini games in video games that involve ratings...Attributes should determine something like this, for example recovery...


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        Are you proposing that kickouts should be done automatically for the user depending on attributes? Having no input would take me out of the game a bit. I prefer to have some control over it.

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        • Jukeman
          Showtime
          • Aug 2005
          • 10955

          #94
          Originally posted by Seymour Scagnetti
          Are you proposing that kickouts should be done automatically for the user depending on attributes? Having no input would take me out of the game a bit. I prefer to have some control over it.
          No but attributes should have an affect (like any other typical sports game) and not be total skilled based (like a typical fighting game)

          I had a match with Ryder (maybe the lowest rated guy on the game) vs Ziggler, I beat Zolph because I was able to kick out of all his pin attempts (which only happens when u are damaged) and was able to stay alive long enough to hit him with my finisher.

          Zolph destroyed me in that match btw

          Only way I would have lost the match is if my "paper doll" was fully red

          And this is the very reason I always went with the button smashing option for the last 2 years.




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          Last edited by Jukeman; 11-27-2011, 04:11 PM.

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          • CMH
            Making you famous
            • Oct 2002
            • 26203

            #95
            Originally posted by Seymour Scagnetti
            Has anybody seem small package pin attempts? I don't know how to do it and I'm assuming it's a successful reversal from the AI's finisher move but I thought a reversal of a finisher just stops it and gives you a stored finisher. And I have had my finisher blocked but have yet to see the AI attempt a small package pin in any circumstance. I remember seeing it in videos so it's kinda odd I have yet to see it attempted in al the hours I've played the game.
            I've seen them.

            I think it is part of a wrestler's pin package. Not every one can do it.

            Sort of like performing a German suplex pin. It's definitely a package that becomes available during a grapple move and I believe only after a certain time in the fight.

            Not 100% on it becoming available later in a match (possibly based on opponent damage?) but I know as Edge I had a sudden option to pin during a grapple I performed several times during the match.

            Then again, I think I perform less moves off an arm grapple then any other grapple so it might have been a move I simply had not attempted earlier in the match.

            Anyway the point is there are small package pins. I've seen them.


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            "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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            • CMH
              Making you famous
              • Oct 2002
              • 26203

              #96
              Originally posted by Jukeman
              No but attributes should have an affect (like any other typical sports game) and not be total skilled based (like a typical fighting game)

              I had a match with Ryder (maybe the lowest rated guy on the game) vs Ziggler, I beat Zolph because I was able to kick out of all his pin attempts (which only happens when u are damaged) and was able to stay alive long enough to hit him with my finisher.

              Zolph destroyed me in that match btw

              Only way I would have lost the match is if my "paper doll" was fully red




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              I find that impressive because while I'm getting better at kicking out, I'm not finding myself always kicking out especially since the meter moves to different spots on the screen during attempts and also changes speeds.

              At least in my game it does. Playing on Hard.


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              "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

              "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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              • Bellsprout
                Hard Times.
                • Oct 2009
                • 25652

                #97
                Re: WWE 12 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

                My only complaint with the meter is during Last Man Standing matches. It's annoying as hell. The camera angle keeps changing while you're trying to get up, and it really makes it a lot more difficult to get up, because it kind of disorients you.
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                Originally posted by l3ulvl
                A lot of you guys seem pretty cool, but you have wieners.

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                • Jukeman
                  Showtime
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 10955

                  #98
                  Originally posted by CMH
                  I find that impressive because while I'm getting better at kicking out, I'm not finding myself always kicking out especially since the meter moves to different spots on the screen during attempts and also changes speeds.

                  At least in my game it does. Playing on Hard.


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                  Im on legend but i have also been playing this series since Smackdown. (played every installment)

                  Maybe the game is just too easy for me?

                  I even have AI reversals at max...On Legend!

                  The thing is 9x out of 10 I hit the pin meter on the first try, it is harder if you miss tho.

                  Later in the match its either kickout on first count or lose...There is no dramatic 2 counts for me..If they not going to chance the system at least give us the option for classic system which makes no sense that they removed it but have button smash for subs..What do I expect tho, UFC 3 took out the shine for subs but kept it in for takedowns

                  I also find that the royal rumble meter is harder than the pin meter but that is mainly due to the speed.

                  Overall the AI does give me a better challenge than the last 2 years.


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                  Last edited by Jukeman; 11-27-2011, 04:28 PM.

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                  • TracerBullet
                    One Last Job
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 22119

                    #99
                    Re: WWE 12 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

                    Originally posted by Dayman
                    My only complaint with the meter is during Last Man Standing matches. It's annoying as hell. The camera angle keeps changing while you're trying to get up, and it really makes it a lot more difficult to get up, because it kind of disorients you.
                    The camera switching during pins and any other time a meter comes up is one of the most annoying things about his game.
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                    I feel weird for liking a post about exposed penises.

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                    • DJ
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 17756

                      #100
                      Re: WWE 12 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

                      Originally posted by Dayman
                      My only complaint with the meter is during Last Man Standing matches. It's annoying as hell. The camera angle keeps changing while you're trying to get up, and it really makes it a lot more difficult to get up, because it kind of disorients you.
                      Isn't that a good thing to make it harder to get up in a Last Man Standing Match? It wouldn't be much fun if you were getting up immediately everytime. I don't have the game yet, so I'd have to see the camera changes for myself to comment accurately on the matter.
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                      • Bellsprout
                        Hard Times.
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 25652

                        #101
                        Re: WWE 12 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

                        Originally posted by DJ
                        Isn't that a good thing to make it harder to get up in a Last Man Standing Match? It wouldn't be much fun if you were getting up immediately everytime. I don't have the game yet, so I'd have to see the camera changes for myself to comment accurately on the matter.
                        It shouldn't take me 7 seconds to get up when I'm 2 minutes into the match.
                        Member: OS Uni Snob Association | Twitter: @MyNameIsJesseG | #WT4M | #WatchTheWorldBurn
                        Originally posted by l3ulvl
                        A lot of you guys seem pretty cool, but you have wieners.

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                        • CMH
                          Making you famous
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 26203

                          #102
                          Originally posted by Jukeman
                          Im on legend but i have also been playing this series since Smackdown. (played every installment)

                          Maybe the game is just too easy for me?

                          I even have AI reversals at max...On Legend!

                          The thing is 9x out of 10 I hit the pin meter on the first try, it is harder if you miss tho.

                          Later in the match its either kickout on first count or lose...There is no dramatic 2 counts for me..If they not going to chance the system at least give us the option for classic system which makes no sense that they removed it but have button smash for subs..What do I expect tho, UFC 3 took out the shine for subs but kept it in for takedowns

                          I also find that the royal rumble meter is harder than the pin meter but that is mainly due to the speed.

                          Overall the AI does give me a better challenge than the last 2 years.


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                          Ah experience plays a role. I haven't played a wrestling game since No Mercy.

                          Actually, I played that Acclaim title that required street fighter stick skills to pull off moves and retired from the games as a result.

                          So yeah I'm a bit of a newbie here. I did have a pretty crazy match where I somehow kicked out of a close two- count. Maybe I'm getting better but I mostly felt lucky.

                          I also suck at video games. I've long accepted that.


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                          "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                          "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                          • Jukeman
                            Showtime
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 10955

                            #103
                            Originally posted by CMH
                            Ah experience plays a role. I haven't played a wrestling game since No Mercy.

                            Actually, I played that Acclaim title that required street fighter stick skills to pull off moves and retired from the games as a result.

                            So yeah I'm a bit of a newbie here. I did have a pretty crazy match where I somehow kicked out of a close two- count. Maybe I'm getting better but I mostly felt lucky.

                            I also suck at video games. I've long accepted that.


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                            Ah man playing those those Acclaim games was like eating Kix and wanting Cocoa Puffs.

                            WWE was hot then too with DX, Rock and SCSA!!!


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                            • Hooe
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 21555

                              #104
                              Re: WWE 12 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

                              Anyone else having an issue with created wrestlers with custom music where, after you win with one and match highlights play, the music cuts off? Any known workarounds if so?

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                              • Tweeg
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 1414

                                #105
                                Re: WWE 12 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

                                Originally posted by CHooe
                                Anyone else having an issue with created wrestlers with custom music where, after you win with one and match highlights play, the music cuts off? Any known workarounds if so?
                                I think the only thing you can do is disable the match highlights. Then the music will play for the winner scene instead.
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