NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

[rangerrick012]

Re: NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

Well damn...

I have to say I'm not seeing the non double team issue as much as others. I played a game the other day with the Spurs and was going off with Manu and he got double teamed a few times. Also had Steve Blake of all people get doubled in a game I played. Are they less prevalent than in other years? Yes. But I do see guys come over to help when I'm in the post, and attempt to steal. Maybe it's b.c of some slider tweaks I made, but I only had help D strength at 55 so I dunno...

I understand the frustration and hopefully there will be another patch to iron out this issue. But is it a gamebreaker? For me, no. The bigger issue for me remains the CPU fastbreaking at will and incessant forcing of the ball to the paint.

[daca]

Re: NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

hmm.. is the patch 3mb big? because besides that one i didn't get any patch... maybe because i'm from europe?

[OGKing]

Re: NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

hmm.. is the patch 3mb big? because besides that one i didn't get any patch... maybe because i'm from europe?

that's the patch.

[daca]

Re: NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

that's the patch.

ok thx... well then i didn't notice any major difference...

[Serra11]

Re: NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

and I'm not even a huge basketball fan..

That's why this game for you is fantastic and we have to say thanks to 2k and shut up...Now it's all crystal clear for me...

[drew_3]

Re: NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

Felt the need to add a quick reply as I was such a big detractor of this game pre patch. Post patch I would say alot of the issues have been adressed, particularly for me would be driving the lane, at first it might not appear different but you should notice that the move will for a split second seem to freeze the defender and your able to get the separation you need to drive to the hoop, its not massively noticeable but its there.

I have onky played two games but this game has spent the last 2 months on the shelf and now I feel like I want to play it, as some one else accurately described it, its like 2k11 mark 2.0 which is exactly what I was calling for when it first came out.

Roll on Christmas day!!

[TheKasmar]

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I played a few games and the most noticble difference was more contact in the paint and layups not as easy.

I must have gotten unlucky because the 1st game I played online I faced off against the Bulls. This guy took 34 3's and made 13 of them. Luckily I havent seen anything like that since.

I've seen slighty less on-ball steals, but I'm seeing more deflections. It's still too easy to lose the ball while the offensive player just looks at it.

I got so use to the passing pre-patch that I didnt notice any big changes post patch. The defense plays the pass lanes more realisticly allowing for more swinging the ball along the perimiter and a few more lead passes in the paint. Occasionaly I still see the beach ball passes accompanied by this strange 180 degree turn from the passer or the person being passed to. Overall, the icon passing is a step behind and a step too slow.

The blocking is akward. You can have a defender in perfect position and press for a block and he will jump in slo-mo away from the defender.

I enjoyed the game enough before the patch to play and slight gameplay changes from the patch have made the game more balanced.

[FinallyFamous]

this patch did not fix the stealing, or should i say the, "mashing steal button" problem

[OGKing]

Re: NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

this patch did not fix the stealing, or should i say the, "mashing steal button" problem

Well, for me it did, the opponent gets called for reaching fouls every so often.

Go ahead, try to steal if you want, but your player is going to get fouled out before the fourth quarter, and that can be crucial.

I love the fact that 2k upped online to Superstar difficulty post patch.

Online quick ranked that is.

[Giants4Natic]

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I see double teams in every game I play. But only when certain players are hot or killing it. Not as soon as tip off.

I have not noticed what I see some say like

No double teaming

or

No cpu dribbling.

I see both and see it often

[nogster]

Re: NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

Well damn...

I have to say I'm not seeing the non double team issue as much as others. I played a game the other day with the Spurs and was going off with Manu and he got double teamed a few times. Also had Steve Blake of all people get doubled in a game I played. Are they less prevalent than in other years? Yes. But I do see guys come over to help when I'm in the post, and attempt to steal. Maybe it's b.c of some slider tweaks I made, but I only had help D strength at 55 so I dunno...

You are not being doubled. You are seeing aggressive help D. there is a fundamental difference.
I assume Blake got doubled in a pick n roll trap yeah? The ONLY time Ive ever seen doubles in 2k12.
A secondary player attempting to steal off the post player is not a double team. Its simply the court spacing. The secondary player is in the vicinity of the ball either due to coming to help cover driving lanes or because he happened to be there when the pass was made. thus giving him the chance to swipe. At no point do you get trapped, forced to give up the dribble and either shoot or pass it.
At no point does the CPU recognize a defensive mismatch and double the offensive player like it did so well in 2k11.
I put Augustine to guard Dwight then controlled the magic in a test. simply called the same low post play for Dwight. back down, back down. repeatedly scored. NO DOUBLE.
Its unacceptable.

Im being a broken record I know.
I am just so relieved that its finally being recognized.. I felt like I was bashing head against a brick wall screaming this issue and no one was listening.
Thanks ALTIMUS, COURT VISION and the others who have spoken out about this fundamental flaw in this game.

[ffaacc03]

Re: NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

While this patch didnt address many bugs and glitches, which to me were the least subjective and the more bothering of all issues, for what it did addressed it was GREAT !

I love the flow and smootheness that the game now has, love the new level of control, the increased amount of fouls, everything better than before. Played a vs game online against an unsim player (not cheeser, have yet to see a true cheese move) that relied on excesive 3s, steals, bullying into the paint and felt great to finally be able to contest all. Also played some teamup games and loved how the reaching fouls are now called, not overdone but in the right instances, we managed to get to the line 26 times (lol, never ever was that even possible, great). Also, the usual lag was almost absent.

While I know there are limitations, I would love to see them (2k) release a final patch (just a big doubtfull hope, I know) that could address all the significant amount of bugs/glitches that affect season/association/my player. Am already resigned to accept that there wont be any additions of absent options, even when they are undenyable needed (online: sliders, resets, classics vs friends and teamups) ... as those were due to a company decission and not a bug/glitch/gameplay missintended action.

If I had to put an score: 2k11 (93) and 2k12 (90) but with 2k12 having a much better potential to be a better base to build upon the next installment.

[DJ]

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This is the biggest issue for me and in just unacceptable. 2K11 threw doubles sometimes as soon as your PG crossed the court forcing you immediately to change your plan of attack. Bigs down low got double teamed. Now we have nothing. Maybe 2K thought the CBA was going to introduce some new no double team rule or something, who knows. Either way at the end this cripples the game for because of how important the double is.

2K, you have no excuse for excluding this and not being able to add it through so many patches. What's next, you going to take out walks out of MLB 2K12?

As someone else mentioned, this game took 4 steps forward and 3 steps backward. Worry less about the legends and DLC 2K and get your hoops fundamentals down next time.

Agreed, Altimus. The lack of double-teams by the CPU is very disappointing, especially, as you said, the game did them so well last year.

There's a lot to like about 2K12 and the patch did a lot of good things ... unfortunately, the flaws still stand out and it's hard not to be disappointed in the overall product compared to 2K11.

[DarthRambo]

Re: NBA 2K12 Patch 1.04 Available Now - Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

Beat the Wizards 115-83 with the Magic...had 26pts, 13reb, and 1 blick with Howard. Shot 12/25 from 3pt so there's the big lead, and held Wizards to under 40% shooting.


Big thing I saw messed up is the lack of double teaming by the cpu. I had 18pts in the first qtr with Howard!!! They never double but maybe once the entire game. He was missing alot of shots after the first quarter though, cant remember his shot total but it was still above 50%.

With the slider tweaks I've made since the patch the game plays amazing. All we need is a good set of rosters with edited tendencies that are correct and this game will be golden. I had well over 20pts on fastbreaks btw so no clue what you all are talking about with the no fastbreak crap. Even had a nice alley-oop from J-Rich to Howard on one...

The lack of double team sucks, but the ball movement by the cpu is much improved, the passing is nice, and the overall feel of the game is good. I'm now wishing the cpu would shoot the ball more to draw fouls more when they drive inside instead of passing it which I thought I'd never say for this game.

[Pitfighter87]

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