NBA 2K12 Will Not Have 66 Game Schedule, It Will Only Be Implemented in NBA Today

[Sundown]

Re: NBA 2K12 Will Not Have 66 Game Schedule, It Will Only Be Implemented in NBA Today

Again I understand why this may be a letdown for some but to make the jump and call 2K lazy for not being able to add this is just unnecessary.

I just read my post again. I understand why I'm getting some of the responses I'm getting.

I didn't mean to say that 2K not patching the schedule is making me skeptical of 2K13. I'm disappointed but willing to let it go, or will just mutter under my breath through the year. That's dissappionting but understandable. It's how they've released the game, handled the DLC and the patch that makes me a bit wary of 2K13. At least I'm not going to be as amped as I was about 2K12. 2K isn't lazy. I just don't think they have their priorities and focus well managed this year as resources seem to have shifted from things that make the main game better to gambling on things that would bring in quick additional revenue. You gotta admit that taking twice as long to provide half the amount of fixes for a game that has twice as many issues as its predecessor is somewhat disappointing. It's the year I felt 2K stopped loving us as much. Hah.

If my reaction sounded more extreme than it was meant to be, that's what you get when you hammer out a post half asleep in bed.

[rangerrick012]

Re: NBA 2K12 Will Not Have 66 Game Schedule, It Will Only Be Implemented in NBA Today

Shrug. For some reason I held out hope for 2K to handle it right. The technical challenges aren't that difficult, and 2K seems to be tenacious about authenticity. They also have plenty of framework in place to update aspects of the game through download. I would have thought a correct season schedule after roster update or patch was more plausible than a ridiculous amount of love lavished on legends, a three man play-calling crew, HORSE, dynamic download of graphical changes, and having Michael Jordan in the game. All of those have either been rarely or never done in a sports video game before 2K did it.

Whether past games have done things doesn't play that much into my consideration when it comes to 2K (that's a good thing). Updated, correct schedules falls in line (and seems to be the least work) of what they appear to be going for this year. I would argue it might be more important than some of the other features, with an incorrect number of games and schedule staring at you all year as you go through the season's games.

A part of the fun of going through a season is connecting it with real games that were actually played this year, thinking "oh, I remember that game," and trying to change or reproduce recent history. Oh well.

I don't get how you can say the technical challenges aren't that difficult. No offense, but are you a programmer? Do you know first hand specifically what tech that 2K uses in association mode that would allow this to be so easy? And if so, do you know that changing to allow for 66 gm schedule wouldn't cause a problem in another area of the game.

To me it seems pretty cut and dry. Thinking logically, it's not feasable to say that 2K should have known the specifics of when the lockout would end, how the schedule would be made, and allow for programming to call for this. If you notice even when you choose to make a season 14 games in offline association, it still starts in November, which tells me that there's a specific algorithm that would probably be hard to change with a simple patch which states that associations must start in November and end in April. I'm not a programmer, but to me it seems like it would be harder than you're making it seem for 2K to compensate for this.

[Sundown]

Re: NBA 2K12 Will Not Have 66 Game Schedule, It Will Only Be Implemented in NBA Today

I don't get how you can say the technical challenges aren't that difficult. No offense, but are you a programmer? Do you know first hand specifically what tech that 2K uses in association mode that would allow this to be so easy? And if so, do you know that changing to allow for 66 gm schedule wouldn't cause a problem in another area of the game.

To me it seems pretty cut and dry. Thinking logically, it's not feasable to say that 2K should have known the specifics of when the lockout would end, how the schedule would be made, and allow for programming to call for this. If you notice even when you choose to make a season 14 games in offline association, it still starts in November, which tells me that there's a specific algorithm that would probably be hard to change with a simple patch which states that associations must start in November and end in April. I'm not a programmer, but to me it seems like it would be harder than you're making it seem for 2K to compensate for this.

Yes I am a programmer/software engineer. If you had to adjust for a shortened lockout season, you don't do it algorithmically, since it would start late at a specific date. You would use a hand crafted schedule, which 2K likely already does for the first full year. Do the shortened season games happen on the same days as they do in the full season? Does the schedule stay the same each year? If yes to both, then the other shortened seasons may be hand crafted as well. Or the game may just algorithmically drop games from the handcrafted 82 game season data. If you planned ahead, you would have season schedules be patchable or downloadable, with the 66 game schedule used only for the first year, and the normal schedule used for the rest if you're playing an 82 game season. It would be a special case for full seasons and you don't need to muck with shortened seasons as they function correctly or wouldn't be accurate to the real NBA anyway.

I'm not saying I know the code, and it might not be worth it if the code is not well structured for this sort of modular updating, but swapping out data sets and tables is not a huge technical hurdle given all the things 2K is able to accomplish that are much more difficult. It is not a monumental technical undertaking, at least not if you're doing it right. At worst it shouldn't take more than a man week to hammer this out, but it might not be a week they have available. Depending on their code base, I can understand if they feel it to be not worth the time or effort, but I do feel that this should have been factored in when planning their contingencies. At the very least new CBA rules should have been updated post patch, as that doesn't change year to year and affects every year from now on. I would have even accepted a 66 game first season with incorrect schedules for association-- at least career and franchise states would sort of resemble real life.

Obviously they had limited time, so this might have been dropped or deemed not worthwhile. But maybe they would have a bit more time for that and other things if they didn't divert resources on what sounds like months on the DLC. Stop working on HORSE and 3 on 3 AI and fix cpu double teaming.

[nonnel]

Re: NBA 2K12 Will Not Have 66 Game Schedule, It Will Only Be Implemented in NBA Today

Considering no other game in the history of sports video games has ever done this, I agree it was a bit much to expect.

Right.

Now... when exactly since patches have existed was there a circumstance where a professional sport had their season shortened?

I mean... why WOULD any "other game in the the history of sports video games" do this before now?

[Pared]

Re: NBA 2K12 Will Not Have 66 Game Schedule, It Will Only Be Implemented in NBA Today

And why would any game do this now?

Again, it is one season. Your expectations are ridiculous to expect this - they really are. To make the game take ALL the factors into consideration and continue with "business" as usual thereafter...

I hope you understand your ridiculous expectations are met with ridiculous questions and answers for a reason. You're throwing out common sense here looking for the only answer that would appease you. There's no room for reason when you do that, so why act as if this is a discussion with valid points being presented when you're responding in kind?

For the comment about High Heat, the only thing they ever corrected on the console side is an incorrect schedule through a roster update, not a shortened season.

[nonnel]

Re: NBA 2K12 Will Not Have 66 Game Schedule, It Will Only Be Implemented in NBA Today

And why would any game do this now?

To simulate real life. You really didn't know the answer to that question?

As for the rest of your rant... just realize that you're speaking your opinion, and not fact. I'm not saying it's possible, or reasonable, or anything like that either. I was just simply pointing out that your reasoning of "it's never been done before" made literally ZERO sense.

[Pared]

Re: NBA 2K12 Will Not Have 66 Game Schedule, It Will Only Be Implemented in NBA Today

I'm not saying it's possible, or reasonable

I'm glad you finally realize this.

[victorsena13]

I think someone will make a mod i guess

[Detroitfan4life1993]

Re: NBA 2K12 Will Not Have 66 Game Schedule, It Will Only Be Implemented in NBA Today

I did not expect them to put it in the game and its not really that big of a deal, it's only for 1 season any way. Atleast it will be in nba today.

[thugnificant]

Re: NBA 2K12 Will Not Have 66 Game Schedule, It Will Only Be Implemented in NBA Today

66 game schedule is a issue ? smh this is 100% likely to never happen again but people want it in the game as a option. Get off the game and watch some preseason games

[nonnel]

Re: NBA 2K12 Will Not Have 66 Game Schedule, It Will Only Be Implemented in NBA Today

I'm glad you finally realize this.

Was there a time that I didn't? You seem to have a real chip on your shoulder and I'm not sure why. You always this randomly angry? All I did was tell you how nonsensical your point was about it "never being done before". Sorry if that ruffled your feathers, but a simple "yeah, I guess you're right" would have sufficed.

[LiveAllDaWay]

Can't anybody just edit the 66 season game schedule and put upload it on 2K Share? Is that possible?

[Sundown]

66 game schedule is a issue ? smh this is 100% likely to never happen again but people want it in the game as a option. Get off the game and watch some preseason games

It won't happen for years but it happened this year-- and is relevant immersion-wise the entire time we'll be playing this year's game, unless you play many seasons. I only made it through the majority of the first last year in MyPlayer.

[Colts18]

Re: NBA 2K12 Will Not Have 66 Game Schedule, It Will Only Be Implemented in NBA Today

2K, in the future, just allow "Season Length" to be edited before each year of the Association Mode. That way people could do 58 this year and 82 next time. It really isn't an issue though. I thought it was crazy to ask them to patch that in the first place. It would have been nice but I didn't expect it.

As I said, I have never seen HUDS (is that the right term for in game text/options) added/removed from the game.

[bobday]

Re: NBA 2K12 Will Not Have 66 Game Schedule, It Will Only Be Implemented in NBA Today

I'm reading all kinds of funny *** **** again from people who are obviously must be stock holders or something, defending 2K like their family. lol
PR guy saying impossible=they lazy to do it
How come Morrowind could add whole continents and cities to it's game like 6-7 years ago? How come 2K could add the Legends dlc? I feel like asking Allen Iverson about practice. IT'S JUST A SCHEDULE!!! Keeps repeating it's not that important, but he just lazy and everybody knows it.

Well I don't know what I was expecting from their coders... they can't even fix arena sounds for the third year. Now THIS is some funny *** ****. Feature? My *** Meh