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  • ticats8
    Rookie
    • Sep 2011
    • 348

    #1

    Rebuilding the Raptors

    Hey guys, I'm getting 2K12 for christmas tomorrow and will be starting a franchise with my hometown team, the Raptors

    I want to rebuild them realistically and the only players I won't trade are DeRozan, Ed Davis and Jerryd Bayless.

    Any suggestions on trades, FA signings and draft picks?
  • slimm44
    MVP
    • Sep 2005
    • 3253

    #2
    Re: Rebuilding the Raptors

    Originally posted by ticats8
    Hey guys, I'm getting 2K12 for christmas tomorrow and will be starting a franchise with my hometown team, the Raptors

    I want to rebuild them realistically and the only players I won't trade are DeRozan, Ed Davis and Jerryd Bayless.

    Any suggestions on trades, FA signings and draft picks?
    You might be able to get something out of Bargnani and Amir Johnson. Amir's overpriced. I would focus on FA and draft picks. If you are going to trade anybody, trade for draft picks and pick up low-priced free agents for 1 year deals.
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    • ticats8
      Rookie
      • Sep 2011
      • 348

      #3
      Re: Rebuilding the Raptors

      I'd love to trade Bargnani for a center who can do everything that he doesn't do, which is everything but score, maybe a roy hibbert type

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      • Slyone14
        MVP
        • Dec 2011
        • 1034

        #4
        Re: Rebuilding the Raptors

        Yea the raptors are a challenge in association cause they don't have much. I line Ed Davis, Bargaini Sp?, and Deroazen. My first priority asap would be to try and get a good point guard and center. Someone like Jennings, Lowry, and anyone young with potential. Then I would get a center. In my cats association I got Robyn Lopez. He averaged 10ppg/8.4. Rpg. And almost 2 blocks. An/ or anyone cheap, young.

        Them I'n offseason grab brook Lopez, javale McGee, who will give u talent. The. U can move big b to pf. And draft harrrison barnes, and u work on your bench.

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        • Slyone14
          MVP
          • Dec 2011
          • 1034

          #5
          Re: Rebuilding the Raptors

          But if anyone has any good ideas please tell us. They have no rookies

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          • Preo32
            Rookie
            • Apr 2008
            • 322

            #6
            Re: Rebuilding the Raptors

            Im a Raptors fan and am considering doing the same thing. I like a few other teams a lot as well and may go a different route, but my plan for Toronto would be:

            1) Trade Bargnani - I like him but he is just tough to deal with. Too bad at defense to play center, too slow for SF, PF is ok I guess but i like defensive PFs over ones that shoot that should be more than just a shooter.

            2) Trade Calderon - He just needs to go for some youth

            3) Probably download a CAP of Valanciunas bc after 1 year I will want him and Ill just sit him in reserves all season until next yr

            Now, One trade I am intrigued in for Toronto on the game is the possiblity to aquire Kemba Walker and Bismack Biyombo from Charlotte. Both are top 10 picks so getting them will be difficult probably, but (and I dont have the game but will probably get it tomorrow) I assume Bargnani and Calderon for those 2, with some additional players in case money is off, as well as draft picks, would result in a way to get them both. That is going to be my plan at least. Then I hope to have a lineup of Walker, DeRozan, James Johnson/Gary Forbes, Ed Davis/Amir Johnson, and Biyombo as a raw center who will improve and be a defensive force over time.

            If I do it with them, that is my plan to start rebuilding. I may go another route from Walker, but if I can get both in one deal I will most likely do it. I am big on free agents for my associations bc i know so many of the bad ones from college ball which i follow deeply, so I would fill it out with players I like. I would also get rid of Aaron Gray and Anthony Carter bc I do not like them that much.

            EDIT --- Plus, right now, there are a lot of decent FAs Id sign to help out the team. I used to love Arenas, so id pick him up as a alternate starting PG or backup to somebody. Once I get the game Ill have a better idea of what i want to do, but im leaning towards Toronto as I am a big fan and would love to see them be relevant in the next few years
            Last edited by Preo32; 12-24-2011, 04:56 PM.

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            • volstopfan14
              MVP
              • Jul 2010
              • 2307

              #7
              Re: Rebuilding the Raptors

              The Raptors are definately a challenge. Here is the way I look at the roster. This is just me, but I'm going to be using a Jonas Valanciunas CAP since he won't be in this years game. I would wait till year 2 to use him though. DeRozen is a beast on 2k and can get better if you develop his shooting. Davis will be a solid PF. Amir Johnson (think Udonis Haslem) and Jerryd Bayless can be contributers off the bench. Personally, I'd look to trade Bargnani. If you really like his game, you could put him at PF and look to trade Davis or Johnson. I just don't see enough playing time for Valanciunas, Bargnani, Davis, and Johnson. The 2 remaining problems are SF and PG. I'd try to draft a SF (Harrison Barnes?) and use Bargnani to trade for a PG.
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              • YoungDee15
                Banned
                • Jan 2011
                • 192

                #8
                Re: Rebuilding the Raptors

                trade : Bargnani,Calderon,Barbosa,Amir Johnson
                bring in : Al Horford,Nolan Smith,Marcus Thornton

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                • Slyone14
                  MVP
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 1034

                  #9
                  Re: Rebuilding the Raptors

                  Originally posted by volstopfan14
                  The Raptors are definately a challenge. Here is the way I look at the roster. This is just me, but I'm going to be using a Jonas Valanciunas CAP since he won't be in this years game. I would wait till year 2 to use him though. DeRozen is a beast on 2k and can get better if you develop his shooting. Davis will be a solid PF. Amir Johnson (think Udonis Haslem) and Jerryd Bayless can be contributers off the bench. Personally, I'd look to trade Bargnani. If you really like his game, you could put him at PF and look to trade Davis or Johnson. I just don't see enough playing time for Valanciunas, Bargnani, Davis, and Johnson. The 2 remaining problems are SF and PG. I'd try to draft a SF (Harrison Barnes?) and use Bargnani to trade for a PG.
                  Love that ideas, question though where could I ger the stats for jonas, his potentiiL, etc??

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                  • volstopfan14
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 2307

                    #10
                    Re: Rebuilding the Raptors

                    Originally posted by Slyone14
                    Love that ideas, question though where could I ger the stats for jonas, his potentiiL, etc??
                    There are quite a few scouting reports from the draft on Valanciunas online. Maybe try NBADraft.net or DraftExpress. I'm sure there are plenty of Valanciunas CAPs on 2k share. What system are you on?
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                    • Slyone14
                      MVP
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 1034

                      #11
                      Re: Rebuilding the Raptors

                      Originally posted by volstopfan14
                      There are quite a few scouting reports from the draft on Valanciunas online. Maybe try NBADraft.net or DraftExpress. I'm sure there are plenty of Valanciunas CAPs on 2k share. What system are you on?
                      Ps3,'yea true but to determine his potential, vertical, overal, and sti be somewhat accurate is a challenge.'any ideas how u would do it?

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                      • Slyone14
                        MVP
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 1034

                        #12
                        Re: Rebuilding the Raptors

                        Yea the only problem is bobcats would never ever I'n a
                        Million years trade there top 2 draft picks. So I like realism, so that's out. Not sure who I would want for Andreas I can't ever spell ur last Name.

                        I totally agree with what cols said, get a pg, Devin Harris pops I'n my head, and we will need. Center, would try to get greg odom, he's a beast I'n the game. Problem with ed Davis is he has unlimited potential, but is just not ready for a starting role yet.

                        My other priority is improved bench.

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                        • volstopfan14
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 2307

                          #13
                          Re: Rebuilding the Raptors

                          Originally posted by Slyone14
                          Ps3,'yea true but to determine his potential, vertical, overal, and sti be somewhat accurate is a challenge.'any ideas how u would do it?
                          Valnciunas is very talented. He's a good rebounder, plays hard, can finish at the rim, and has a lot of potential. He still needs to work on his post game and get stronger. His defense is pretty good but still needs some work. If I was rating him, I'd say an overall in the high 60s with potential to be no higher than low 80s. I've heard it said that he could very well be the most talented player in this draft and the only reason he fell to the Raptors was his European contract.
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                          • Wade_da_Best
                            Banned
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 30

                            #14
                            Re: Rebuilding the Raptors

                            Originally posted by volstopfan14
                            Valnciunas is very talented. He's a good rebounder, plays hard, can finish at the rim, and has a lot of potential. He still needs to work on his post game and get stronger. His defense is pretty good but still needs some work. If I was rating him, I'd say an overall in the high 60s with potential to be no higher than low 80s. I've heard it said that he could very well be the most talented player in this draft and the only reason he fell to the Raptors was his European contract.
                            Sign a vet C to a 1 year deal, start him, and move Bargs to PF while Val develops.

                            Deal Calderon and your '13 1st round pick for expirings and '12 1st round pick. Try a team like the Hawks which need a legit PG.

                            If you don't get the #1 pick package Bayless and the Raptors pick for it and draft Harrison Barnes. Then draft a distributor at PG like Kendall Marshall.

                            Then sign McGee to a 2 or 3 year deal with a team option in free agency (The Wizards almost never resign him). This will give the post D and rebounding that you need. Val will be able to continue to develop and you'll also have a ton of front court depth with Davis as well.

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                            • Preo32
                              Rookie
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 322

                              #15
                              Re: Rebuilding the Raptors

                              Originally posted by Slyone14
                              Yea the only problem is bobcats would never ever I'n a
                              Million years trade there top 2 draft picks. So I like realism, so that's out. Not sure who I would want for Andreas I can't ever spell ur last Name.

                              I totally agree with what cols said, get a pg, Devin Harris pops I'n my head, and we will need. Center, would try to get greg odom, he's a beast I'n the game. Problem with ed Davis is he has unlimited potential, but is just not ready for a starting role yet.

                              My other priority is improved bench.
                              While I agree they wont trade both, I could see them dishing out Biyombo if you give them quality, even in real life. He is raw talent, so if you give them a proven piece, like a Bargnani, you may be losing a better play, but in return get a person who will no doubt be better at defense.

                              I like being realistic to, but I like the idea of Walker and Biyombo to Toronto so much Im going to see if there is a way for me to do it without giving up much. But again, if you have a Valanciunas cap, which I plan on having, it's not a trade that is necessary at all and I probably wouldn't do it.

                              But again look at the free agents. If you can get some quality vets for cheap, it would be a lot of help for a year or 2 before you end up with the pieces you want to use to improve the team

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