UFC Undisputed 3 Video - How to Unlock Alistair Overeem

[jeremym480]

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You aren't spamming them. LOL. All it says is you "like" UFC Undisputed. It appears once on their timeline. Thats it. I'm amazed that people are complaining about this.

Exactly, it's not like we're actually having to pay out of pocket or anything. I'm a little put off by the GameStop fighters, I prefer to get my games from Amazon or Best Buy. However, it's totally worth it to me and understand it. Hell, most companies have pre-order incentives, so let's not act like this is nothing new. I guess some people just like to complain about every little thing.

[Perfect Zero]

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My complaint with all of the new "like" this and "message this to ten friends" that is that it's basically telling you do to the advertising for the company. Not only do you pay $60 for the product, but you have to go out and advertize for them to get more of the game. Shady practices like that are deterring me away from this game. If they can't afford simple advertizing, it makes me wonder what the game will actually be like...

[justblaze09]

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They gave an option to just submit when you put your info for the code.

This is far from spamming on facebook.

[aholbert32]

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My complaint with all of the new "like" this and "message this to ten friends" that is that it's basically telling you do to the advertising for the company. Not only do you pay $60 for the product, but you have to go out and advertize for them to get more of the game. Shady practices like that are deterring me away from this game. If they can't afford simple advertizing, it makes me wonder what the game will actually be like...

They aren't telling you to do anything. They are asking you to do something. I didn't message 10 friends and I registered for the code.

I work for one of the biggest cable networks in the world and guess what....we use Facebook and Twitter to market our shows all the time. We have a website for one of our networks that asks people to post their thoughts about shows and puts them on Facebook and Twitter. My company spends tens of millions of dollars a year on advertising so it has nothing to do with "affording simple advertising". It would be idiotic to ignore those advertising options just because a few people think it spamming.

[Gotmadskillzson]

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In a way it is free advertising, but it is the sign of the times. Way too many people use Twitter and Facebook. From a business stand point, it is more cost effective and QUICKER.

You pay for a commercial and it MIGHT air twice in one hour. Unless you a major sponsor then it will air 5 or 6 times per an hour.

However you put something on Facebook and Twitter, it will get shared by 10s of thousands per a minute and it will happen 24/7.

[Perfect Zero]

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They aren't telling you to do anything. They are asking you to do something. I didn't message 10 friends and I registered for the code.

Yeah, they are asking me to advertize for them so that I can unlock something that's already on the $60 game that I just purchased. As for the second sentence, I was using an example from other games.

I work for one of the biggest cable networks in the world and guess what....we use Facebook and Twitter to market our shows all the time. We have a website for one of our networks that asks people to post their thoughts about shows and puts them on Facebook and Twitter. My company spends tens of millions of dollars a year on advertising so it has nothing to do with "affording simple advertising". It would be idiotic to ignore those advertising options just because a few people think it spamming.

I know that social media sites are the cheapest ways to advertize anything; I use some of the same methods for the choir that I sing in. However, I don't require people to do extra work so that they can hear an exclusive piece of music, or so that they can sit closer to the front and center of the auditorium. That's the main problem that I have with this mess.

It is also not "a few people [that think its] spamming." Every other message from a number of people talks about the game their playing and how they "need my help." If that's not spamming, I don't know what is.

[aholbert32]

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Yeah, they are asking me to advertize for them so that I can unlock something that's already on the $60 game that I just purchased. As for the second sentence, I was using an example from other games.



I know that social media sites are the cheapest ways to advertize anything; I use some of the same methods for the choir that I sing in. However, I don't require people to do extra work so that they can hear an exclusive piece of music, or so that they can sit closer to the front and center of the auditorium. That's the main problem that I have with this mess.

It is also not "a few people [that think its] spamming." Every other message from a number of people talks about the game their playing and how they "need my help." If that's not spamming, I don't know what is.

Every major media company does promotions like "Like this page and see an exclusive clip from The Office" or "Tweet #American Idol and see an exclusive video". Its called marketing. If you want the video, you do it. If you don't, you don't have too. It cost you nothing and no one is forcing you to do it.

No matter how you try to spin it...its not spamming. The message about UFC Undisputed appears once. Once. Anyway, its just a strange thing to complain about in my opinion. I'm just happy they were able to get Overeem in the game. The game goes gold in a few weeks, it takes 8 weeks to create each fighter and he signed to the UFC in October. There was a good chance he wasn't going to be in the game or would've been DLC.

If that means I have to press one button and type in my email address just to get him, I'm glad to do it.

[goh]

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Having a page for a TV show is different. It's more like having to click like to see the last 3 minutes of an episode. It's not even that really,we pay for cable,not individual shows. No one should be ok with this. This is FIVE fighters cut from the game they're asking us to do extra for,three of which could be champion or #1 contender very soon. It's a complete disgrace.

[aholbert32]

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Having a page for a TV show is different. It's more like having to click like to see the last 3 minutes of an episode. It's not even that really,we pay for cable,not individual shows. No one should be ok with this. This is FIVE fighters cut from the game they're asking us to do extra for,three of which could be champion or #1 contender very soon. It's a complete disgrace.

That analogy doesn't apply and you know it. Stop trying to complicate it. They are asking people to "like" a page to access a feature. Its done with movies. Its done with TV. Again, no one is excusing them for the gamestop stuff. We are just talking about Overeem.

Anyway, like I said, if this is such a disgrace, show them with your wallet. Don't purchase the game and if you do....please don't like the page to get Overeem. I have no issue with people who complain (even if I think they are overreacting) but please don't complain about this to this level and still purchase the game and help them market their game.

[fpac]

I don't use Facebook because IMO it's stupid and I have no use for it (that's beside the point) but I created one with a fake name and old email address I rarely use anymore just to get Overeem. The whole process took maybe 2 minutes and I'll never use it again so this doesn't really seem like that big of a deal to me.

[st67]

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Jesus people. Its called marketing. I can understand that people are upset about the gamestop thing (I am too because I would prefer to buy my game somewhere else) but complaining about this? Most people have a Facebook account so its as simple as pressing the "like" button and adding your email address.

Don't have or want a Facebook account...create a fake one, press the like button and just have THQ send the code to your correct email address. That simple.

Doesn't have anything to do with how easy it is... It simply has to do with having to go about doing stuff to get things in a game you've already bought.

Like I said before - I liked when you bought a game, and that was it. You didn't have to go sending a letter to Nintendo Power, then them sending you a letter back with a code to put into say... Mike Tyson's Punch out so that you could unlock content on the game. You popped in the game, and you played it. I miss that.

Imagine putting Street Fighter II in your SNES, then going to the character screen and not seeing Ken. Then you look in the manual and it says "To unlock Ken, go tell a friend about Street Fighter II, then call us in a 3-way call with your friend, who will confirm that you told them about the game! We'll then give you a code that you can enter to unlock Ken!"

It's just nonsense and entirely unnecessary, but companies do it because they can. I don't get why you'd treat your consumers as gophers. They've already put down $60 to get your game - now you're going to make them run around and do things just so they can unlock 'special features' that should already be available to them from the get go?

[Perfect Zero]

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Every major media company does promotions like "Like this page and see an exclusive clip from The Office" or "Tweet #American Idol and see an exclusive video". Its called marketing. If you want the video, you do it. If you don't, you don't have too. It cost you nothing and no one is forcing you to do it.

You're just arguing to argue here. I already told you about how THQ is doing it differently.

No matter how you try to spin it...its not spamming. The message about UFC Undisputed appears once. Once.

And it appears on every single page of your friends. And it targets the advertizing toward them. No, having multiple targets toward you and your friends is not spaming...

[aholbert32]

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Doesn't have anything to do with how easy it is... It simply has to do with having to go about doing stuff to get things in a game you've already bought.

Like I said before - I liked when you bought a game, and that was it. You didn't have to go sending a letter to Nintendo Power, then them sending you a letter back with a code to put into say... Mike Tyson's Punch out so that you could unlock content on the game. You popped in the game, and you played it. I miss that.

Imagine putting Street Fighter II in your SNES, then going to the character screen and not seeing Ken. Then you look in the manual and it says "To unlock Ken, go tell a friend about Street Fighter II, then call us in a 3-way call with your friend, who will confirm that you told them about the game! We'll then give you a code that you can enter to unlock Ken!"

It's just nonsense and entirely unnecessary, but companies do it because they can. I don't get why you'd treat your consumers as gophers. They've already put down $60 to get your game - now you're going to make them run around and do things just so they can unlock 'special features' that should already be available to them from the get go?

So I guess you HATE entering in the code for EA and THQ online passes, right? Because entering in that code is about the same amount of effort as liking a FB page.

Its totally about how easy it is. There is a reasonable amount of effort that can be expected to access a video game and its features. I'm OK with liking a FB page to get a fighter. I'm OK with entering a code for an online pass. I'm not OK with limiting my purchase options by forcing me to go to a specific store to get a fighter.

Also, you can't have it both ways. You say its not about how easy it is and then complain about THQ making "you run around" and use a SNES analogy that doesn't apply. The amount of effort you described in that analogy is much more effort than liking a FB page.

Again, THQ doesn't have your 60 bucks yet so if you don't like the practice....stop showing THQ you do buy buying the game.

[allBthere]

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So I guess you HATE entering in the code for EA and THQ online passes, right? Because entering in that code is about the same amount of effort as liking a FB page.

Its totally about how easy it is. There is a reasonable amount of effort that can be expected to access a video game and its features. I'm OK with liking a FB page to get a fighter. I'm OK with entering a code for an online pass. I'm not OK with limiting my purchase options by forcing me to go to a specific store to get a fighter.

Also, you can't have it both ways. You say its not about how easy it is and then complain about THQ making "you run around" and use a SNES analogy that doesn't apply. The amount of effort you described in that analogy is much more effort than liking a FB page.

Again, THQ doesn't have your 60 bucks yet so if you don't like the practice....stop showing THQ you do buy buying the game.

for me it's a little bit about principles... for example, what if there are 8 different pages I have to "like" for the next game? I'll probably do it THIS TIME, but it's the DIRECTION in general I'm not a huge fan of. What if I bought the directors cut of 'blade runner' (which I have), but I had to 'like' the blade runner facebook page to actually see the directors cut or a 5min scene within it...

It's not about the effort. I'm effectively advertising for them having already purchased the game when that's not my job and I don't want to. Maybe I should get $5 off the game for doing so?

Again, not saying I'm personally not going to do it, just a bit apprehensive about where this leads into the future moving forward. I also don't think it makes sense to just take the company's side and say "well don't do it than" because 1, you're asking people to 'say' something that they may not believe and 2, as others have said, asking they do ANYTHING for a UFC heavyweight contender to be in the game BEYOND paying the money for the game I'm not a fan of.

Compare UFC 3, to Forza which has loads of DLC - you think those car models take less time or money? They aren't even doing the full body scans anymore (which imo were better).

quickly back to point #1 above; if I do indeed love the game, they will get plenty of free advetising from me, if I hate it, I have advertised for them without really endorsing the game.

If this goes too far, I will indeed 'speak with my wallet'. I kind of hope 2/3's of the like's come from made-up profile's with no friends...if they really do end up decreasing their advertising spending because of social media, perhaps the game price tag should be lowered..

[aholbert32]

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for me it's a little bit about principles... for example, what if there are 8 different pages I have to "like" for the next game? I'll probably do it THIS TIME, but it's the DIRECTION in general I'm not a huge fan of. What if I bought the directors cut of 'blade runner' (which I have), but I had to 'like' the blade runner facebook page to actually see the directors cut or a 5min scene within it...

It's not about the effort. I'm effectively advertising for them having already purchased the game when that's not my job and I don't want to. Maybe I should get $5 off the game for doing so?

Again, not saying I'm personally not going to do it, just a bit apprehensive about where this leads into the future moving forward. I also don't think it makes sense to just take the company's side and say "well don't do it than" because 1, you're asking people to 'say' something that they may not believe and 2, as others have said, asking they do ANYTHING for a UFC heavyweight contender to be in the game BEYOND paying the money for the game I'm not a fan of.

Compare UFC 3, to Forza which has loads of DLC - you think those car models take less time or money? They aren't even doing the full body scans anymore (which imo were better).

quickly back to point #1 above; if I do indeed love the game, they will get plenty of free advetising from me, if I hate it, I have advertised for them without really endorsing the game.

If this goes too far, I will indeed 'speak with my wallet'. I kind of hope 2/3's of the like's come from made-up profile's with no friends...if they really do end up decreasing their advertising spending because of social media, perhaps the game price tag should be lowered..

Again, lets talk about the matter at hand. They aren't asking you to like 8 pages. They are asking you to like 1. If they asked you to do more than that I could understand the complaint. I completely understand and agree with the complaints about the Gamestop fighters. But for Overeem, they are asking you like 1 page...thats it.

If you are apprehensive about the future....dont do it now. Its the same thing I say about DLC. People complained about DLC with the WWE series but still purchased it. No matter what you say or how much you complain, if THQ is making hundreds of thousands from DLC and gets millions of likes because of Overeem....they are going to do it every year.

Also your financial analysis of the marketing doesn't work at all. I don't think ANYONE would argue that the value of liking a page and having it appear on your timeline once is worth 5 dollars (or even 1 dollar) per person. Also I seriously doubt that we will see less advertising for this game because of social media. If anything I've seen more videos, Q&As, interviews and web trailers than any previous version. I can also guarantee that we will see as many TV commercials as we have for THQ's other fighting game, WWE 12.

Anyway, I'll agree to disagree. Its just a huge pet peeve of mine to hear people say "Im so enraged the THQ would make me like a FB page but I'm still gonna do it"