MLB 12 The Show Screenshots - Your New Default Camera View and Other Tidbits

**Blzer** · 01-07-2012, 04:39 PM

Re: MLB 12 The Show: Your new default camera view and other tidbits

Originally posted by LilWayneFTW

Haha not sure if I called it right, I forgot what it's really called..
in 11 it was all white only this time they added some black

Oooh haha I was looking at the Camden Yards scoreboard. Yes, the score bar/bug has changed, probably for the better.

**Aussie141414** · 01-08-2012, 08:48 AM

Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshots - Your New Default Camera View and Other Tidbits

Originally posted by econoodle

that last shot is heaven.

Everything looks great except for every pitch having the rotation as a 2 seam fastball. Have been wanting this to be changed for the past 3 years, but nothing has ever been done. Weird how a curveball and four seam fastball have the same rotation.

**Skyboxer** · 01-08-2012, 07:58 PM

Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshots - Your New Default Camera View and Other Tidbits

Love what I see.
Cant wait to get it.

**EnigmaNemesis** · 01-09-2012, 01:42 PM

Originally posted by Aussie141414

Everything looks great except for every pitch having the rotation as a 2 seam fastball. Have been wanting this to be changed for the past 3 years, but nothing has ever been done. Weird how a curveball and four seam fastball have the same rotation.

New ball physics may have granted your wish...

**WarningTrackPower** · 01-09-2012, 01:51 PM

Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshots - Your New Default Camera View and Other Tidbits

Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis

New ball physics may have granted your wish...

Any chance these new ball physics will lead to less opposite field homeruns on inside pitches? It was frustrating when a player swings late on a fastball up and in, only to hit a bomb to the opposite field. I hit as many as I gave up so at least it was somewhat even, but whenever they happened it would usually leave me shaking my head.

**ILurk** · 01-09-2012, 04:28 PM

Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshots - Your New Default Camera View and Other Tidbits

Originally posted by WarningTrackPower

Any chance these new ball physics will lead to less opposite field homeruns on inside pitches? It was frustrating when a player swings late on a fastball up and in, only to hit a bomb to the opposite field. I hit as many as I gave up so at least it was somewhat even, but whenever they happened it would usually leave me shaking my head.

I would assume the answer is yes to that because the blurbs about the new ball physics say it affects how the ball comes off the bat.

**Bobhead** · 01-09-2012, 07:28 PM

Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshots - Your New Default Camera View and Other Tidbits

Originally posted by WarningTrackPower

Any chance these new ball physics will lead to less opposite field homeruns on inside pitches? It was frustrating when a player swings late on a fastball up and in, only to hit a bomb to the opposite field. I hit as many as I gave up so at least it was somewhat even, but whenever they happened it would usually leave me shaking my head.

Most opposite field home runs ARE on middle/inside pitches. The outside ones are the easiest ones to pull.

**Blzer** · 01-09-2012, 07:45 PM

Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshots - Your New Default Camera View and Other Tidbits

Originally posted by Bobhead

Most opposite field home runs ARE on middle/inside pitches. The outside ones are the easiest ones to pull.

Are you claiming this is how the game does it, or how it is in real life?

If the latter, I'm prepared to write an essay on how factually incorrect you are... and you know how much I like to write essays.

**nomo17k** · 01-09-2012, 07:48 PM

Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshots - Your New Default Camera View and Other Tidbits

Originally posted by Blzer

Are you claiming this is how the game does it, or how it is in real life?

If the latter, I'm prepared to write an essay on how factually incorrect you are... and you know how much I like to write essays.

I'm actually curious about how the inside pitch issue should be addressed. While I think you can pull both inside and outside pitches, I bet you cannot really hit an inside pitch with some authority to the opposite field.

A vast majority of HRs are mid to inside over the plate, hit to the pull side:

What makes a home run pitch

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/what-makes-a-home-run-pitch/

A look at how the height of each type of pitch affects the chance that it will be hit for a home run using PITCHf/x.

**Bobhead** · 01-09-2012, 09:04 PM

Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshots - Your New Default Camera View and Other Tidbits

Originally posted by Blzer

Are you claiming this is how the game does it, or how it is in real life?

If the latter, I'm prepared to write an essay on how factually incorrect you are... and you know how much I like to write essays.

I did mean the latter (real life), and please do, I'd actually be interested in reading it.

Just to reiterate what I said so you know what you're responding to:

I'm not saying oppo. HRs are easy or anything. I'm just saying of the ones hit, the minority are from pitches on the outside portion of the plate.

I also believe that pitches over the middle or outside (but still in the strike zone) are by far the easiest ones to pull, because full arm extension is easier and less awkward.

And finally, realize that both of the above statements were intended to refer specifically to fastballs, since that is what warningtrackpower was talking about when I quoted him, but I'd like to see your essay on pitches in general either way.

**nomo17k** · 01-09-2012, 09:10 PM

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I'm curious to read as well. I think it was Blzer who a while ago wrote a nice post about swing mechanics on what essentially is the same topic. If the inside-out swing leading to opposite HRs issue isn't address in MLB12, the issue will probably be brought up several times in coming months, haha.

EDIT: Found Blzer's post.

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2042388850

**WarningTrackPower** · 01-09-2012, 09:59 PM

Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshots - Your New Default Camera View and Other Tidbits

I'm no hitting coach, nor do I claim to know everything about swing mechanics so my post will be based on my own personal experiences.

(for argument's sake - let's say fastball, though I'm not sure if pitch type really matters and let's say inside = the inner 3rd of the strike zone to the inner black)

When swinging late on an inside pitch, you're not able to get the barrel of the bat on the ball and will most likely hit the ball off the handle. A ball off the handle will usually lead to a weak hit to the opposite side.

As far as hitting a ball on the outer third of the zone and pulling it for a homerun... In my experiences, these have usually been weak hits to the pull side because you're out in front of a pitch that you're trying to pull. Your front shoulder will probably fly open too early and you'll hit that ball off the end of the bat. Though, I'm not saying that it's impossible to pull a HR, or hit a rocket on these pitches... I guess it all depends on how early you are on this outside pitch.

**ILurk** · 01-09-2012, 10:07 PM

Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshots - Your New Default Camera View and Other Tidbits

I'm gonna say most opposite field HRs in real life are low in the zone.

**nomo17k** · 01-09-2012, 10:36 PM

Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshots - Your New Default Camera View and Other Tidbits

Not so scientific, but just by quickly searching the MLB videos with "opposite-field home run", at least the ones found in the first page or two, I'd say a vast majority of opposite HRs are middle/outside pitches.

I couldn't find another good video for this purpose, but this one is a collection of opposite-field HRs in the Japanese league (hey it's still baseball... can't be that different....) Quality is bad as most cuts are from 90s...

<iframe src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/CXbbpNRxNMQ" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="420"></iframe>

Some data points there.

**nomo17k** · 01-09-2012, 10:45 PM

Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshots - Your New Default Camera View and Other Tidbits

Originally posted by WarningTrackPower

As far as hitting a ball on the outer third of the zone and pulling it for a homerun... In my experiences, these have usually been weak hits to the pull side because you're out in front of a pitch that you're trying to pull. Your front shoulder will probably fly open too early and you'll hit that ball off the end of the bat. Though, I'm not saying that it's impossible to pull a HR, or hit a rocket on these pitches... I guess it all depends on how early you are on this outside pitch.

I think this is commonly believed... A left-handed power hitter who tends to pull outside pitches often ends up hitting grounders to 2B, and that's one of the reasons why you want to use the extreme fielding shift against him, bringing SS over to 2B, 3B to SS, etc. I he tries to go opposite way (despite the lack of skill to do so), you are successful in depriving him of power that way.

MLB 12 The Show Screenshots - Your New Default Camera View and Other Tidbits

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