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  • kingg d
    Rookie
    • Jul 2010
    • 356

    #1

    Pick and Pop - Is it possible in 2k12?

    As the tittle says, I'm frustrated with the pick and pop this year. I don't know if it's just me, but it seems it's almost impossible to do a pick and pop, I play as the blazers and for some reason when I pass the ball to Aldridge in a p&p situation (after pressing and holding LB) he always either goes to the rim with heavy traffic or steps behind the 3pt line before receiving the ball. It's really frustrating because I feel like I'm losing one of Aldridge's biggest strengths. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but if this is glitched or something just tell me so I won't bother losing any more time trying this.

    Any tips or plays would be appreciated.
  • ManiacMatt1782
    Who? Giroux!
    • Jul 2006
    • 3982

    #2
    Re: Pick and Pop - Is it possible in 2k12?

    Answered you in the other thread, also check out Da czar's pick and roll control strategy session video.
    www.twitch.tv/maniacmatt1228
    www.youtube.com/maniacmatt1782

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    • kingg d
      Rookie
      • Jul 2010
      • 356

      #3
      Re: Pick and Pop - Is it possible in 2k12?

      Originally posted by ManiacMatt1782
      Answered you in the other thread, also check out Da czar's pick and roll control strategy session video.
      Thanks, but that is not the problem. I know the controls to do it, the problem is when I pass the ball to an open LaMarcus Aldridge for the mid range after a pick and pop, 99% of the times he kinda slides to the 3pt line or to the rim when I pass him the ball instead of staying at the spot for the mid range.

      I'm going to try to upload a video to show you my problem

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      • vannwolfhawk
        MVP
        • Jun 2009
        • 3412

        #4
        Re: Pick and Pop - Is it possible in 2k12?

        Originally posted by kingg d
        Thanks, but that is not the problem. I know the controls to do it, the problem is when I pass the ball to an open LaMarcus Aldridge for the mid range after a pick and pop, 99% of the times he kinda slides to the 3pt line or to the rim when I pass him the ball instead of staying at the spot for the mid range.

        I'm going to try to upload a video to show you my problem
        Are you lead passing? I had this same problem when I was lead passing but I started to just press the A button and now its a perfect pick n pop. Try using A and not icon passing...
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        • ManiacMatt1782
          Who? Giroux!
          • Jul 2006
          • 3982

          #5
          Re: Pick and Pop - Is it possible in 2k12?

          Well that fixes your cutting problem at least. The other problem is lack of spacing inside the arch. But you can try this. Get your ball handler up to the 3 pt line so that your defender and the pick man are inside the arch. The problem then is there isn't a lot of space, and it may still be tough to get off an open jumper
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          • richmo
            Almighty 2k Paper Champ
            • Jul 2005
            • 709

            #6
            Re: Pick and Pop - Is it possible in 2k12?

            Yeah, I think spacing took a step back this year IMO. I think it would be cool though if next year they found a way to use the individual Spot Up tendencies to correlate to if they roll out behind the line or for a mid-range J.

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            • kingg d
              Rookie
              • Jul 2010
              • 356

              #7
              Re: Pick and Pop - Is it possible in 2k12?

              Originally posted by vannwolfhawk
              Are you lead passing? I had this same problem when I was lead passing but I started to just press the A button and now its a perfect pick n pop. Try using A and not icon passing...
              Yeah, I always use icon passing, if I use the A button the the pass goes to the wrong player most times. I'm going to try to disable icon lead passing then. Thx

              Originally posted by ManiacMatt1782
              Well that fixes your cutting problem at least. The other problem is lack of spacing inside the arch. But you can try this. Get your ball handler up to the 3 pt line so that your defender and the pick man are inside the arch. The problem then is there isn't a lot of space, and it may still be tough to get off an open jumper
              True, it seems like there isn't much space to do it, the court seems way smaller than a real life one, or the players too big.

              I'm starting to think that pick and pop is a waste of time in 2k12.

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              • youALREADYknow
                MVP
                • Aug 2008
                • 3635

                #8
                Re: Pick and Pop - Is it possible in 2k12?

                If you run a good set play for PnP or Fade (there are only 5-6 good ones in the entire game) then it works fine. The problem is that there isn't much of a selection and most teams don't have one of those good plays in the default playbooks.

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                • stillfeelme
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 2405

                  #9
                  Re: Pick and Pop - Is it possible in 2k12?

                  Originally posted by kingg d
                  Yeah, I always use icon passing, if I use the A button the the pass goes to the wrong player most times. I'm going to try to disable icon lead passing then. Thx



                  True, it seems like there isn't much space to do it, the court seems way smaller than a real life one, or the players too big.

                  I'm starting to think that pick and pop is a waste of time in 2k12.

                  I thought it was just me that noticed the court is not big enough for the players. They need to widen the court a bit especially if they are going to make the players react so fast and cover so much ground.

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                  • vannwolfhawk
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 3412

                    #10
                    Re: Pick and Pop - Is it possible in 2k12?

                    Originally posted by kingg d
                    Yeah, I always use icon passing, if I use the A button the the pass goes to the wrong player most times. I'm going to try to disable icon lead passing then. Thx
                    You dont need to disable it. When you are doing the pick n pop you need to press the left stick towards the guy you want to pass to and then press A. Use the lead pass for other situations. I use the A button on fast breaks with guys cutting to the hoop to and use icon passing in all other situations. You will see some great passing animations with A passing as well especially with guys like Rubio when using the pick n pop.

                    Also youalreadyknow hit it on the head there are only a select few good plays for pick n pop in the game. Maybe 5-6 for 3's and 5-6 for mid range. But using the LB does work if you spread the floor first by pressing left on the d pad and then hit space floor then hit LB for your pick n pop and you will have better spacing on the floor...
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                    • kingg d
                      Rookie
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 356

                      #11
                      Re: Pick and Pop - Is it possible in 2k12?

                      Originally posted by vannwolfhawk
                      You dont need to disable it. When you are doing the pick n pop you need to press the left stick towards the guy you want to pass to and then press A. Use the lead pass for other situations. I use the A button on fast breaks with guys cutting to the hoop to and use icon passing in all other situations. You will see some great passing animations with A passing as well especially with guys like Rubio when using the pick n pop.

                      Also youalreadyknow hit it on the head there are only a select few good plays for pick n pop in the game. Maybe 5-6 for 3's and 5-6 for mid range. But using the LB does work if you spread the floor first by pressing left on the d pad and then hit space floor then hit LB for your pick n pop and you will have better spacing on the floor...

                      Thanks for the tips, never tried those d-pad strategies but it makes sense. Going to try that right now.

                      Edit: Just tried the spread the floor tip and it works way better. I was able to do a couple of successful p&p with this.

                      Originally posted by youALREADYknow
                      If you run a good set play for PnP or Fade (there are only 5-6 good ones in the entire game) then it works fine. The problem is that there isn't much of a selection and most teams don't have one of those good plays in the default playbooks.
                      Can you or anybody please name one of those p&p plays? Can't find anyone

                      Thanks for the responses
                      Last edited by kingg d; 01-12-2012, 03:42 PM.

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                      • gabri3l3
                        Pro
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 582

                        #12
                        Re: Pick and Pop - Is it possible in 2k12?

                        Originally posted by stillfeelme
                        I thought it was just me that noticed the court is not big enough for the players. They need to widen the court a bit especially if they are going to make the players react so fast and cover so much ground.
                        THESE WORDS HAVE TO BE SENT TO 2K

                        I've been supporting this for a long time, it's by far my biggest gripe with the game!
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                        • vannwolfhawk
                          MVP
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 3412

                          #13
                          Re: Pick and Pop - Is it possible in 2k12?

                          Originally posted by kingg d
                          Can you or anybody please name one of those p&p plays? Can't find anyone

                          Thanks for the responses
                          If your looking for mid range PNPtry these...

                          OKC 31 Screen Fist for a wing jumper or SAS 51 High PNR for top of key jumper. I also like the PHI deuce fist as it starts with zipper action and then the top of key PNP directly after hitting the guy off the zipper action.
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                          • kingg d
                            Rookie
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 356

                            #14
                            Re: Pick and Pop - Is it possible in 2k12?

                            Originally posted by vannwolfhawk
                            If your looking for mid range PNPtry these...

                            OKC 31 Screen Fist for a wing jumper or SAS 51 High PNR for top of key jumper. I also like the PHI deuce fist as it starts with zipper action and then the top of key PNP directly after hitting the guy off the zipper action.
                            I'll give those a try, thanks!

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                            • TheKasmar
                              Pro
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 955

                              #15
                              Re: Pick and Pop - Is it possible in 2k12?

                              I dont like the pick and pop at all in this game. The route of the pop just looks awkward. As mentoned before, icon passing often leads to the shooter being way out on the 3pt line.

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