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  • jinc1019
    Rookie
    • Jul 2007
    • 185

    #1

    Why this is my LAST year playing NBA2K

    I am not an unreasonable person, not by any stretch of the imagination. In fact, if anything, I have been one of 2K's biggest supporters. I am not sure what the number is, but I doubt there is a high percentage of current 2k owners who can say they have owned every single version of NBA2k, beginning all the way back to the Dreamcast days (I loved that system).

    There have been versions I have loved, versions I have hated, and years where 2k was just rather forgettable. But, all things considered, 2k is the ONLY company who has received my business for 13 years or so. Literally, the only one.

    So how has it come to this? Honestly, I am not nearly as outraged as many on this forum about 2k's current version. Is it perfect? No. Is it a step back in some ways from last year? Yes. But in the end, is there a better basketball game on the market? (Ok, I know there are no other games on the market but you get my point.) Would you really like 2k to be of the same quality as other sports titles that have had the time or the fortune to exist in a world where they are the only brand in town? Think hard about that question. Madden has been a disaster compared to NBA2k since NFL 2k lost its ability to exist. We went through a HORRIBLE stretch of terrible baseball games following the demise of MVP Baseball (One that some of us are still going through if you don't have a PS3). NBA 2K still may be the best sports title on the market (I think it's a close second to San Diego Studios' MLB franchise on the PS3). But with all of that said, I just can't buy this game anymore.

    In fairness, NBA basketball is not my favorite sport. I am a diehard Celtics fan dating back to their dismal days in the late 90's, but baseball and now football have sort of taken the top spot (in that order) in my sports watching pyramid and I don't see the NBA topping them anytime soon. Perhaps if basketball were my favorite sport, I wouldn't be writing any of this.

    Then again...maybe I would. My reasons for dumping this game are not based in anger or frustration. I like this year's version. It all comes down to one thing though: Innovation. I have waited years, and I mean YEARS, for 2k to take that next step in adding something to the game we have never seen before; they haven't. The legends thing was a nice touch, but I would rather have a deeper association or a more creative online experience instead.

    This game just isn't keeping interested and I think I realized that more than ever today. I don't get much time to play video games anymore (I am in law school), so when I had a chance to play today, I was pretty excited. But as soon as I put the game in, I just didn't want to play. Every single year it's essentially the same thing. I am tired of waiting for that one great feature that emerges from this studio every 4 years or so (like signature shots several years ago). It seems like everytime I give up on them, they come up with something great for one year and then live off of that improvement for at least 2 years before coming up with something more. I don't think 2k is lazy, not at all. I just think they are lacking in creativity.

    I could sit here and name 100 different improvements that would make the game unbelievable, but what's the point? Next year's version will be just like this year's version...a little more polished, a little bit better, fixes to this year's errors for sure, but still the same product. Every year I get excited when it comes out but can't finish a single season...I don't feel connected to this game anymore and I don't know if I ever will again unless some dramatic changes occur.

    It probably doesn't matter; NBA2k will make its money and people will continue to buy the game. What I think DOES NOT MATTER. But, like everything great that has ever existed, success often breeds laziness and a lack of competition leads to a failure in innovation. In that sense, I guess this is all EA sports' fault; they couldn't put a single good game on the shelf for years and 2k knew it (They couldn't even put anything on the shelf this year). As a result, 2k stopped innovating, stopped looking for greatness and settled instead for "good but not great." NBA2k is the Joe Johnson of sports games; all the tools, none of the desire. Sure Hawks fans can hope, but in the end, Joe Johnson will never be anything but Joe Johnson and this game will never be anything more than it has been for the last decade, and I don't want to be here ten years from now still complaining about how this game hasn't changed enough, hasn't innovated, and how it never will. For me, the movie is over. It had some good scenes, great cinemtograpgy, but the ending...well, the ending just sucked.
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  • eF 5ive
    MVP
    • May 2011
    • 2068

    #2
    Re: Why this is my LAST year playing NBA2K

    See you next year, bro.
    5

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    • Ejfalcon9
      MVP
      • Oct 2011
      • 1052

      #3
      Re: Why this is my LAST year playing NBA2K

      2k is most def one of the most terrible lazy companies. No doubt they just decided to not do anything as soon as the lockout was annonced. With that being said i'll be buying 2k13. It's the only game in town and I love ball to much.

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      • OGKing
        MVP
        • Mar 2010
        • 1950

        #4
        Re: Why this is my LAST year playing NBA2K

        how will i ever continue playing without you...

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        • DaTwolves21
          Banned
          • Dec 2004
          • 1895

          #5
          Re: Why this is my LAST year playing NBA2K

          That's real man, I have been feeling this way for awhile now, It just doesn't matter to argue/debate/justify anymore, it is what it is and that's it.

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          • maxpwn23
            Rookie
            • Oct 2011
            • 39

            #6
            Re: Why this is my LAST year playing NBA2K

            Originally posted by OGKing
            how will i ever continue playing without you...
            seriously wtf is the reason behind trolling? Does it make you feel important? Funny?...

            get a life!

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            • TheKasmar
              Pro
              • Aug 2009
              • 955

              #7
              Re: Why this is my LAST year playing NBA2K

              You could take the risk of innovating and end up like the Live/Elite Series. In some ways, I think 2k has innovated by giving the user the most control overall that any basketball game has ever given.

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              • Champion8877
                MVP
                • Apr 2011
                • 1518

                #8
                Re: Why this is my LAST year playing NBA2K

                TL;DR

                hate threads are annoying, no need to make this just to complain. im sure you could have found another thread about complaining, or put it in the 2k13 wishlist thread with solutions to your problems.

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                • Armor and Sword
                  The Lama
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 21798

                  #9
                  Re: Why this is my LAST year playing NBA2K

                  Huh?

                  (Scratching my head as I play another game of NBA 2K11).
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                  • spankdatazz22
                    All Star
                    • May 2003
                    • 6219

                    #10
                    Re: Why this is my LAST year playing NBA2K

                    Originally posted by jinc1019
                    I guess this is all EA sports' fault; they couldn't put a single good game on the shelf for years and 2k knew it (They couldn't even put anything on the shelf this year). As a result, 2k stopped innovating, stopped looking for greatness and settled instead for "good but not great." NBA2k is the Joe Johnson of sports games; all the tools, none of the desire.
                    I'd have to disagree with your views/expectations on innovation. What you talk about is indicative of the videogame market as a whole, not just 2K Sports. What sports game innovations do you think occurred the past few years? Or this generation in total? You noted Signature Styles from 2K7 which I'd agree on. It's something that will likely find it's way into every sports game on some level. I'd say Backbreaker with it's true physics engine is something that going forward will likely be implemented to some degree in every sports game. Maybe the use of right-stick options for gameplay in various sports games. Or how tv-style presentation has evolved IMMENSELY over this generation (w/NBA2K12 being the pinnacle of presentation in a sports game).

                    Outside of that, there really isn't much I can think of. But it's that way with the videogame industry as a whole. I consider Skyrim to be an all-time great; I've sunk 120+hrs into the game already. But there isn't anything terribly innovative about it. I think Batman Arkham City is a great accomplishment - but again, no huge innovations over other 3rd person action games. Red Dead Redemption, Uncharted 3... great games but really just improvements on what came before them. I think what all these games have in common is improving on the overall scale of what they were doing, and refining their gameplay mechanics.

                    Either way, don't agree with your view regarding 2K/innovation. Many in the community would prefer they pull back and refine what they have than push for adding more.
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                    • BwanaKuu
                      Rookie
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 236

                      #11
                      Re: Why this is my LAST year playing NBA2K

                      Originally posted by Ejfalcon9
                      2k is most def one of the most terrible lazy companies. No doubt they just decided to not do anything as soon as the lockout was annonced. With that being said i'll be buying 2k13. It's the only game in town and I love ball to much.
                      So not having all those great classic teams w/ era-accurate presentation was doing nothing?

                      They also changed a lot of things because of user feedback. You all loved 2k11, so wouldn't them not doing anything be releasing 2k11 with updated rosters? They tweaked the game and many people don't like it, I can accept that. But that shows that they actually did work with the game. They weren't lazy at all.
                      What would Doc do?

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                      • tetoleetd
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 1151

                        #12
                        Re: Why this is my LAST year playing NBA2K

                        Originally posted by maxpwn23
                        seriously wtf is the reason behind trolling? Does it make you feel important? Funny?...

                        get a life!
                        there is a pretty big difference between being a troll and being sarcastic.

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                        • Golden Age
                          Rookie
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 25

                          #13
                          Re: Why this is my LAST year playing NBA2K

                          I have had a lot of fun with this game. It's the best NBA game I have ever played and I've been playing since NBA Live '95 on the SNES.

                          Most people on this forum seem to never be happy with any sports title so until a video game maker can actually put them in an actual sport, they will probably never be happy. Even then, they'll probably complain that it's TOO realistic.

                          Can't please everyone, but 2K has pleased most.

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                          • Controller_B
                            Rookie
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 3

                            #14
                            Re: Why this is my LAST year playing NBA2K

                            I'm kind of with the opening poster and kind of not. I've always bought sports games sporadically simply because it's always been the case that innovation in sports games is rare from year to year. So in that sense, nba 2k12 isn't changing my mind on anything. Innovation is great, but it's unrealistic to expect it year in and year out, and that's been true in sports games for a long time. For me, what makes me less likely to buy NBA 2k13 is the fact that NBA 2k12 is a worse gameplay experience than 2k11. The OP's post is less about 2k12 or the 2k team and more about one of the flaws of sports gaming finally getting to him.

                            Where I disagree with the OP is the idea that 2K no longer innovates. 2K's problems have always been in the execution and 2k12 is no different. All of a sudden 2k lacks creativity... just one year after they put out 2k11? That's a little too soon for me write 2k off altogether on the creativity tip.

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                            • Sundown
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 3270

                              #15
                              Re: Why this is my LAST year playing NBA2K

                              I don't need massive innovation year after year for me to keep coming back to 2K. I appreciate the upgrades to individual systems that push them individually towards better control and more realism. They do need to move to a movement system that doesn't depend so much on sliding-- that would be a huge innovation in my opinion, but I'm happy with a few new additions and in depth tweaks for existing systems.

                              What I can't deal with is leaving glaring flaws unaddressed before and after launch when they result in unrealistic, unbalanced, frustrating basketball. It's disappointing to have new toys to play with and find things that worked in the past broken in this version: centers being as fast as guards, the return of mindreading and sliding defense, lack of double teams, overly powerful AI comeback momentum logic, not to mention apparent disinterest in keeping the game updated. I'm perfectly content with visual upgrades and tweaks that make the game play more and more like real basketball. While individual areas are more realistic and fancier this year, I feel we may have taken a step back in the overall product.

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