MLB 12 The Show Screenshot - Adrian Gonzalez

[metsfan4life1]

You will have to wait and see...

Ok I will tell you one...

The Prince looked SWEET!

Dead on!

so its 19 total, not 19 for HR and regular swings?

[EnigmaNemesis]

so its 19 total, not 19 for HR and regular swings?

19 different players signature home run follow throughs. On top of what is already in there for players.

They plan on adding to it every year.

[metsfan4life1]

19 different players signature home run follow throughs. On top of what is already in there for players.

They plan on adding to it every year.

So no new regular swigs? Do you have any info on the Mets, when it comes to the game?

[Tabata4Prez]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshot - Adrian Gonzalez

I don't doubt that Gonzalez did come in to do his swing for the game. As I stated before, the developers of The Show go to great lengths to give us an amazing game every year. All that I'm saying is that follow throughs need work - not just Gonzalez's. Compare these pictures to the screenshot. Stiff front leg, legs not too spread out, top arm under the chin.

[BenGerman]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshot - Adrian Gonzalez

There is 19 new signature HR swing and follow troughs this year that was added over what was already there.

I know its going to seem like I am overreacting, but this is huge news for me. I've been asking for this forever!

[nomo17k]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshot - Adrian Gonzalez

I don't doubt that Gonzalez did come in to do his swing for the game. As I stated before, the developers of The Show go to great lengths to give us an amazing game every year. All that I'm saying is that follow throughs need work - not just Gonzalez's. Compare these pictures to the swing. Stiff front leg, legs not too spread out, top arm under the chin.

I don't know how the motion capture is done generally, but I presume that mocap is done via shadow swing/pitching, without them actually hitting/throwing a ball. If that's the case, unless the player doing mocap is really putting effort into imitating his own swing, there will be some difference.

Many pitching motions don't have realistic arm actions (i.e., many of them don't have their elbow leading the way, like the Doc Gooden pic I have as my avatar) because of this. I'm just guessing...

[Blzer]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshot - Adrian Gonzalez

I don't know how the motion capture is done generally, but I presume that mocap is done via shadow swing/pitching, without them actually hitting/throwing a ball. If that's the case, unless the player doing mocap is really putting effort into imitating his own swing, there will be some difference.

Many pitching motions don't have realistic arm actions (i.e., many of them don't have their elbow leading the way, like the Doc Gooden pic I have as my avatar) because of this. I'm just guessing...

Could be, because in the "Vita B-Roll" video that was released, I noticed Gonzalez didn't really have any sort of loading stride that he has in real life (like the one where his shoulder turns in a bit and his back contorts as his weight shifts back, though he keeps a level head). I'm guessing he probably has his specific load/stride in the game, so maybe just that one video didn't show it off. I'm sure if you use analog hitting, you'll be able to see it for yourself since you control your own load. If not, maybe it's just not in the game.

[Tabata4Prez]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshot - Adrian Gonzalez

I don't know how the motion capture is done generally, but I presume that mocap is done via shadow swing/pitching, without them actually hitting/throwing a ball. If that's the case, unless the player doing mocap is really putting effort into imitating his own swing, there will be some difference.

Many pitching motions don't have realistic arm actions (i.e., many of them don't have their elbow leading the way, like the Doc Gooden pic I have as my avatar) because of this. I'm just guessing...

That's what it looks like. I don't even think that they'd have to go through the trouble of mocapping follow throughs to make them look better, though. Simply adding 5 to 10 follow through animations based on the swings we see in reality would be great. Most players in the MLB use a rotational swing, which puts an emphasis on rotation of the hips to generate power. The finished product of this type of swing is the player facing the pitcher, leaned back a bit with a stiff front leg. The follow through conveyed in The Show right now reflects more of a weight transfer approach which is used mostly by contact hitters or guys looking for line drives up the middle. A mixture of both would be great.

Anyway, I just realized how much I'm rambling here, haha. So I'll wrap this up.

[nomo17k]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshot - Adrian Gonzalez

That's what it looks like. I don't even think that they'd have to go through the trouble of mocapping follow throughs to make them look better, though. Simply adding 5 to 10 follow through animations based on the swings we see in reality would be great. Most players in the MLB use a rotational swing, which puts an emphasis on rotation of the hips to generate power. The finished product of this type of swing is the player facing the pitcher, leaned back a bit with a stiff front leg. The follow through conveyed in The Show right now reflects more of a weight transfer approach which is used mostly by contact hitters or guys looking for line drives up the middle. A mixture of both would be great.

Anyway, I just realized how much I'm rambling here, haha. So I'll wrap this up.

Yeah I agree. Sometimes looking at those follow throughs, I feel as if I'm watching a game in the Japanese league, haha... most hitters there take a weight transfer approach.

Good thing is that we can expect these things to improve in future....

[Tabata4Prez]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshot - Adrian Gonzalez

Yeah I agree. Sometimes looking at those follow throughs, I feel as if I'm watching a game in the Japanese league, haha... most hitters there take a weight transfer approach.

Good thing is that we can expect these things to improve in future....

Exactly, man. The Show never dissapoints. Looking at the game now, it seems like very few areas are going to need major improvement in the future. As I said before, near perfect.

[dgrfan88]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshot - Adrian Gonzalez

I don't doubt that Gonzalez did come in to do his swing for the game. As I stated before, the developers of The Show go to great lengths to give us an amazing game every year. All that I'm saying is that follow throughs need work - not just Gonzalez's. Compare these pictures to the screenshot. Stiff front leg, legs not too spread out, top arm under the chin.

The upper body is leaning too far forward as well. Since the players don't shift their weight to the front foot, it doesnt allow them to "clear" their hips, stay behind the ball and throw their hands at the ball. "the Show" hitter has a leg lift and hip rotation, which is fine in some cases, but, they get too far over center of gravity, stay forward and just "roll" over. I don't think they'll ever fix this. Too far into this generation to change now.

[Tabata4Prez]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshot - Adrian Gonzalez

The upper body is leaning too far forward as well. Since the players don't shift their weight to the front foot, it doesnt allow them to "clear" their hips, stay behind the ball and throw their hands at the ball. "the Show" hitter has a leg lift and hip rotation, which is fine in some cases, but, they get too far over center of gravity, stay forward and just "roll" over. I don't think they'll ever fix this. Too far into this generation to change now.

You could be right. However, the developers really do go out of their way to make this a top notch baseball game. Ball physics, a very essential part of the game, for example. Wrote an entirely new code for it. So I'm definitely hoping now that they have things like that out of the way the swings can recieve more attention.

[Blzer]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshot - Adrian Gonzalez

The upper body is leaning too far forward as well. Since the players don't shift their weight to the front foot, it doesnt allow them to "clear" their hips, stay behind the ball and throw their hands at the ball. "the Show" hitter has a leg lift and hip rotation, which is fine in some cases, but, they get too far over center of gravity, stay forward and just "roll" over. I don't think they'll ever fix this. Too far into this generation to change now.

I agree so much, but they explained why it's not as easy as just mo-capping a new swing, and what they said makes sense. It's too bad, because seeing some pure A-Gon swings would look nice in a game that does so much well.

[davis420]

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I know this doesn't have any thing to do with A-Gon but I see a very good crowd. It looks like they added more fans with different features.

[Tabata4Prez]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshot - Adrian Gonzalez

The crowd does look great. One thing I'm really hoping to see is when a player hits a shot that looks like it's going out, the entire stadium will begin to rise to their feet. I remeber that being in MVP 2005. I loved going back and watching the replays. As the ball approached the fence, more and more fans would rise to their feet. Felt so real and looked awesome.