Re: No Madden NFL 13 Super Bowl halftime blog.
I think lots of people need to look up the definition of insanity.
I think lots of people need to look up the definition of insanity.
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Re: No Madden NFL 13 Super Bowl halftime blog.
It doesn't drive me nuts. I want Madden to be the game it is supposed to be. However, I am realistic. It's been 8 years now. Every year is the same. There is a massive marketing/hype push and then a massive let down once we see that very little has changed. The football in Madden needs the most work - the gameplay. It's not very good right now.
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@ all the understandable skeptics, I would just like to point out there have not really been that many times that next gen Madden has been touted to be focused on realism, imo. The only two times that come to mind for me are M10, "What you see on Sunday's" and M12 "True to the game", both of which while far from being stellar games, were "big" improvements of their predecessors.
Even though I disagreed with Ian and Phil's "realism/fun balance" POV, I give them credit for taking Madden in a fundamental direction it had NEVER been before with M10. It of course fell short in many areas and M11 did little to compliment it but M12 picked up the torch "full sprint", imo.
Nothing is accomplished in one cycle, whether that's making a top notch simulation or a casual friendly arcade game. So as disappointed as we all might be with this generation of Madden as a whole, there is little doubt Madden began trending towards increased realism for M10 and M12 seemed to double down on that last year. Considering that, a simple tweet about "we're coming out big this year", in relation to M13 seems like a potentially Big F'n Deal for increased authenticity, imo.Comment
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Re: No Madden NFL 13 Super Bowl halftime blog.
It's gonna be the newest Madden EVER."Ever get the feeling you've been cheated? Good night!" -Johnny Rotten
...and a Baba Booey to y'allComment
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3 pages about an announcement of....literally nothing.
Yep, I'm in the madden forum, all right.Comment
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Re: No Madden NFL 13 Super Bowl halftime blog.
I think this is a profound statement because it highlights the fact that our individual opinion of M13 and beyond will probably stem from our football expectations of the game. Every since the exclusive license was extended and I realized Madden would be my only NFL game for many more years, I looked for it to emulate what other NFL games from the past did well. Finally in 2010 with the release of M11, I realized that probably wasn't going to happen, at least on this generation of consoles.It doesn't drive me nuts. I want Madden to be the game it is supposed to be. However, I am realistic. It's been 8 years now. Every year is the same. There is a massive marketing/hype push and then a massive let down once we see that very little has changed. The football in Madden needs the most work - the gameplay. It's not very good right now.
For some reason, M10 gave me the impression of Ian and crew making a strong push towards emulating more of NFL2k5. However, it seems like shortly after that somebody at Tiburon realized, they just weren't very good at it and that they wouldn't be successful trying to be NFL2k or any other NFL title. M12 seems like a foundational change from what Madden and past NFL football games have been, good or bad.
I don't think Madden 13 will have the same football positive or negatives of other acclaimed past NFL games and I am finally ok with that. That is, as long as the football represented uniquely in Madden is NFL fundamental and realistic.
So if DB mirroring/warping can't be helped any more, cool, then add animations where receivers and defenders actually fight for the ball in the air so receivers can become pass defenders and vice versa. If pass trajectory can't be adjusted, cool, only allow defenders within a 1-3 yard radius of the projected ball placement spot to jump for non-bullet passes. If unrealistic QB dropbacks and cross body throws can't be taken out, cool, make these passes result in grounded balls and thrown away passes. If weight and momentum can't be properly animated, cool, have pressing sprint while simultaneously using special move buttons or sharp analog stick moves result in applicable injuries and/or stumbling/falling animations. If.....well I think people get my point.
Basically, I don't care how Madden chooses to simulate NFL football, in relation to its' existing legacy positives and negatives because NFL football can still be simulated in spite of them, imo.Comment
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Yeah and then we can get into a discussion on what's "big" what"s "Big" and what's "BIG".
Much like always, the thread has people defending that this actually means something, people listing out what they want and so on and so forth....then it just gets blown out of proportion.
What "BIG" is to EA could be nothing special to any of us.
Just ask the fans of EA's NHL franchise when they specifically told "This new feature you guys are going to love, it's going to change the way you play the game!"...dragged that line for months only to give them 7 retired CAP's.
Just don't say you weren't fairly warned for the Nth year in a row. As mentioned in this thread, it literally is the exact definition of INSANE to expect differently. If that doesn't change your perception on following video game marketing, then well, yikes?
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My perception is that I've been pretty keen on what has recently come out. I've been a fan of the recent Madden releases. And while I know you're referencing Einstein, I believe insanity is continuing to pay out of pocket while simultaneously complaining about it. That's the weird part, in my mind. People spit and curse at the Madden/NCAA dev team, and then hand money over to them.
I've been happy with Madden since 2010. I'm curious and excited to see what they deliver.Comment
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I'm not saying I don't like M12 nor am I spitting or cursing. It's a decent game and I'm not complaining about that, so you're not following my point.
I'm being critical of getting excited over the smallest amount of marketing, when they don't even have to stand behind their words anymore.
So why does this statement excite anyone? This doesn't hold EA to making a "BIG" game, this doesn't guarantee any "BIG" features, nothing of the sort is now true because of what was said.
That make sense?
Either way any fan of football gaming would be curious for what's to come this year, but this statement really shouldn't change your perception/excitement if you followed this company in the past because again, it's nothing they actually have to back up for the reasons you've mentioned in your reply.
There is a silver lining in this for me because I believe EA wastes too much money promoting Madden. I don't think they need to market such a well known franchise who's player base will return regardless of their marketing train. Always seemed like a very large waste of resources to me, the act of selling something to someone you've already sold.
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Maybe it's because I've been around here, but I just don't see any kind of "us and them" mentality. I understand this level of distrust, but it's not there for me.Comment
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pretty funny actually
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