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  • Pared
    Legen - WAIT FOR IT
    • Feb 2003
    • 39337

    #136
    Re: Major League Baseball 2K12 Video - Chris Snyder Interview, First Glimpses of Game

    No - I just think T2 is going to see a game barely selling, barely competing and they will just close up shop on baseball titles in the future.

    This would leave 360 owners with nothing to purchase unless EA jumped back into the fray... and many of the individuals that made that series great are gone. Trey Smith is the only guy still around that I know of.
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    • bosnian19
      Banned
      • Jul 2011
      • 413

      #137
      Re: Major League Baseball 2K12 Video - Chris Snyder Interview, First Glimpses of Game

      Originally posted by Pared
      This may be true with games that actually sell well. This series has had declining sales since 2k7 despite their acquisition of the exclusive 3rd party license.

      Many of us are looking for some innovation and competition in a genre that is becoming dominated by a first party title. This is very bad news for 360 owners, because that means they can possibly be left with out a baseball title next year if this continues.

      And you know what? That's bad for baseball overall.
      well then most will move to the ps3

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      • bigfnjoe96
        Hall Of Fame
        • Feb 2004
        • 11410

        #138
        Originally posted by Pared
        No - I just think T2 is going to see a game barely selling, barely competing and they will just close up shop on baseball titles in the future.

        This would leave 360 owners with nothing to purchase unless EA jumped back into the fray... and many of the individuals that made that series great are gone. Trey Smith is the only guy still around that I know of.
        That's true. EA does have have some guy named Kolbe who joined them

        Sent from Awesome Phone

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        • Pared
          Legen - WAIT FOR IT
          • Feb 2003
          • 39337

          #139
          Re: Major League Baseball 2K12 Video - Chris Snyder Interview, First Glimpses of Game

          They can do that but that's a horrible situation for the MLB to be in. As we know, EA can easily decide not to release a game like they did with NBA and NCAA. Despite the fact that they took a chance with MVP NCAA, I don't see it as easy an opportunity for them when most of the original team is gone or working on other games (FIFA/NHL).

          I doubt the MLB would ever give an exclusive to San Diego Studios unless they were multi-platform, which we all know wouldn't happen.

          It's just an all around bad situation for MLB and us as gamers. We have no idea what drastic move MLB would do just to keep themselves relevant - we've seen what they've done in the past and I don't think they have learned from that mistake.

          Originally posted by bigfnjoe96
          That's true. EA does have have some guy named Kolbe who joined them :wink:

          Sent from Awesome Phone
          Kolbe's on the Madden team in FL. He's not going anywhere soon. The MVP team was in Canada.
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          • tvman
            MVP
            • Nov 2010
            • 1392

            #140
            Re: Major League Baseball 2K12 Video - Chris Snyder Interview, First Glimpses of Game

            Ea could release mvp05 renamed mvp12 and sell more than 2k is going to sell this year.

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            • bigfnjoe96
              Hall Of Fame
              • Feb 2004
              • 11410

              #141
              Originally posted by Pared



              Kolbe's on the Madden team in FL. He's not going anywhere soon. The MVP team was in Canada.
              Though MVP was developed by EA Canada, that team no longer exist. So if EA jumped back in, Kolbe may be the perfect guy to resurrect the franchise.

              I'm not a big EA/MVP fan, but I have a lot of respect for Kolbe & what he did when he worked with Sony San Diego

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              • bosnian19
                Banned
                • Jul 2011
                • 413

                #142
                Re: Major League Baseball 2K12 Video - Chris Snyder Interview, First Glimpses of Game

                Originally posted by tvman
                Ea could release mvp05 renamed mvp12 and sell more than 2k is going to sell this year.
                wow i never played it but im watching some gameplay of it on youtube
                looks like a good game..maybe some updated graphics and commentary and its perfect

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                • mkharsh33
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 12761

                  #143
                  Re: Major League Baseball 2K12 Video - Chris Snyder Interview, First Glimpses of Game

                  The guys at EA Mods kept that game alive for years, and did a magnificent job... But playing that game on the old xbox got stale over time...

                  I really enjoyed 2K11. As someone who doesn't own a PS3, nor will I, 2K11 is the only option I had. And it was a good game.....

                  I guess I get frustrated when I visit this arm of OS and find comparisons made to The Show or MVP Baseball. Since those are not options for 360 only owners, I'm not sure how those comments are helpful or necessary. I'm sure I'll get some barbs thrown my way for saying this, but let me clarify:

                  I NEVER visit the "other" baseball forum. I have no need or reason to....
                  STEELERS INDIANS CELTICS

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                  • peigone
                    Banned
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 1050

                    #144
                    Re: Major League Baseball 2K12 Video - Chris Snyder Interview, First Glimpses of Game

                    Originally posted by mkharsh33
                    I guess I get frustrated when I visit this arm of OS and find comparisons made to The Show or MVP Baseball.
                    There's a double standard here at OS for sure. But I worked in a political environment for twenty years, and I understand that's just the way the world operates.

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                    • Pared
                      Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 39337

                      #145
                      Re: Major League Baseball 2K12 Video - Chris Snyder Interview, First Glimpses of Game

                      Originally posted by bosnian19
                      wow i never played it but im watching some gameplay of it on youtube
                      looks like a good game..maybe some updated graphics and commentary and its perfect
                      This doesn't belong here. If you're interested in discussing this game, there's a forum for it.

                      Originally posted by peigone
                      There's a double standard here at OS for sure. But I worked in a political environment for twenty years, and I understand that's just the way the world operates.
                      Please spare everyone the forum politics and propaganda. This doesn't do anything to add to the discussion.
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                      • SoxFan01605
                        All Star
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 7982

                        #146
                        Re: Major League Baseball 2K12 Video - Chris Snyder Interview, First Glimpses of Game

                        Originally posted by peigone
                        How can putting out broken games for all but last year be considered a "no-win" situation? That's more of a "we lost out to ourselves" thing.
                        lol...are we really nitpicking the terminology here? Jokes aside, you're talking about cause, I mentioned an effect. Either way though, you calling it a "we lost to ourselves thing" is still saying they lose.

                        They have an exclusive license that essentially demands they put out a title each year. Their history with that license is extremely poor. No matter what they do, it is called into question because there is no trust in their product. Most people feel that a tuned up or tweaked version of 2K11 is about the best you can expect from them given that schedule on this current crop of systems unless they rip the game apart and start over. People are fed up and many look at a 2K baseball game as a failure before it launches or there's even real info (don't believe me, just re-read this thread alone-even usually discerning posters fall into the habit).

                        That's what I mean by no-win. That's not to say it isn't self-inflicted (In fact, I believe I did say it was), just they can't recover much for their last year of licensure no matter what they do. 2K11 is a decent game that can play great baseball overall with some work. It is just buggy as hell and has lingering issues that people can't look past. For comparison's sake, it's similar to Madden in that sense, where the exclusivity coupled with a lack of success with it have made anything 2K puts out picked apart.

                        The difference being that Madden still has a decent casual video game following (2K never built the kind of following Madden had before hand), is the only new NFL game at all, and NFL is the most popular sport in America, so it still sells well overall. The other difference is, people following this game have a competitor they can look at and wonder "why not 2K..." (fair or not, it's there).
                        Last edited by SoxFan01605; 01-24-2012, 07:45 PM. Reason: can't type...

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                        • Knight165
                          *ll St*r
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 24964

                          #147
                          Re: Major League Baseball 2K12 Video - Chris Snyder Interview, First Glimpses of Game

                          Originally posted by bigfnjoe96
                          Though MVP was developed by EA Canada, that team no longer exist. So if EA jumped back in, Kolbe may be the perfect guy to resurrect the franchise.

                          I'm not a big EA/MVP fan, but I have a lot of respect for Kolbe & what he did when he worked with Sony San Diego
                          But I'll give you a little inside info....
                          There is a reason Kolbe no longer develops BASEBALL for SCEA. He enjoyed his FOURTEEN years of developing it.
                          (the rest is up to you to figure out!....)


                          M.K.
                          Knight165
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                          • bigfnjoe96
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 11410

                            #148
                            Re: Major League Baseball 2K12 Video - Chris Snyder Interview, First Glimpses of Game

                            Originally posted by Knight165
                            But I'll give you a little inside info....
                            There is a reason Kolbe no longer develops BASEBALL for SCEA. He enjoyed his FOURTEEN years of developing it.
                            (the rest is up to you to figure out!....)


                            M.K.
                            Knight165
                            Thanks...

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                            • Knight165
                              *ll St*r
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 24964

                              #149
                              Re: Major League Baseball 2K12 Video - Chris Snyder Interview, First Glimpses of Game

                              Originally posted by bigfnjoe96
                              Thanks...

                              Hahaha!!!
                              Which one is me though?!!!

                              M.K.
                              Knight165
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                              • bigfnjoe96
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 11410

                                #150
                                Re: Major League Baseball 2K12 Video - Chris Snyder Interview, First Glimpses of Game

                                Originally posted by Knight165
                                Hahaha!!!
                                Which one is me though?!!!

                                M.K.
                                Knight165
                                Here's a hint...

                                I ain't the-1 with the funny wig & Red Nose

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