FIFA 12 Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

[bosoxfan1]

Re: FIFA 12 Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

any way of making my stupid teammates A.I. press on defense when i loose the ball on my side? they always go back and dont make an attempt to get the ball back!!! what about "50-50" balls?

[therizing02]

Re: FIFA 12 Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

any way of making my stupid teammates A.I. press on defense when i loose the ball on my side? they always go back and dont make an attempt to get the ball back!!! what about "50-50" balls?

I don't think there is any fix for this. The higher the level, the less help you get from your teammates. The same goes for the CPU as well. Sometimes they'll have a player in position to make a play or help mark and they do nothing.

This is by far the most frustrating sports video game I've played in years. The marking is just awful for both the USER and the CPU, the precision dribbling is far too effective, and the officiating is absolute joke. Finally the obvious momentum and scripting in this game are as bad as I've ever seen.

Here is a video I made of a number of examples of the horrid marking in this game. Some are my CPU teammates and some are the CPU. All of these examples are on Legendary.......

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Good idea to add Tactical Defending, but it's either broken or the programmed momentum is overriding the intent of TD. That could be one of the problems. The bigger problem is that while it some instances it's good that the CPU defenders contain, they haven't figured out that the back four defend differently than the rest of the group. In past FIFAs when you get into the box you were swarmed with defenders the way you should be. In FIFA 12, the whole team defends "tactically" all over the pitch and it's killing the game.

[Gonira]

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played a friendly right now to test some things and tyler started the match commentary with something like "here we are in this halloween evening..."

haha cool

edit: not cool anymore when he says the same in a league match that was in august according to the in-game schedule ¬¬

[tKlausEffect]

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I am at the point now where I have played enough matches of FIFA 12 to realize that the game is nearly unplayable for me anymore. The amount of cheating that goes on by the cpu is simply uncanny. How is the cpu able to jump every single passing lane the second you pass the ball? Every single cpu player, regardless of rating, dribbles the ball around like Cristiano Ronaldo and keeps possession of the ball at around a 60-40 click. Whenever you actually gain possession of the ball and push it into the box, the cpu's defenders filthy little toes stop every single shot or pass.
After posting this I will be trading in FIFA for PES12 and I will never look back. PES11 plays a better game of football than FIFA12. I realize that there will be EA fanboys who will support every title put oout by the the company, but FIFA12 is more of a fail than the initial ship NCAA12. Inexcusable and completely unplayable.

[Gonira]

Re: FIFA 12 Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

u mad imo. fifa 12 is great
try custom sliders if you didn't

[StormJH1]

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I am at the point now where I have played enough matches of FIFA 12 to realize that the game is nearly unplayable for me anymore. The amount of cheating that goes on by the cpu is simply uncanny. How is the cpu able to jump every single passing lane the second you pass the ball? Every single cpu player, regardless of rating, dribbles the ball around like Cristiano Ronaldo and keeps possession of the ball at around a 60-40 click. Whenever you actually gain possession of the ball and push it into the box, the cpu's defenders filthy little toes stop every single shot or pass.
After posting this I will be trading in FIFA for PES12 and I will never look back. PES11 plays a better game of football than FIFA12. I realize that there will be EA fanboys who will support every title put oout by the the company, but FIFA12 is more of a fail than the initial ship NCAA12. Inexcusable and completely unplayable.

I hear your gripes and I don't disagree with all of them but FIFA 12 is a far deeper experience than PES 11. It sounds like your frustration comes from the lack of ability to control the ball and yes, PES 11 does have that going for it. But PES 11 is just ugly at times, and I honestly missed the control schemes of FIFA whenever I was playing it. I tried both last year, and was actually in favor of PES for about a month or so after getting sick of the constant ball-stealing in FIFA 11, but this has not been as much of a problem (IMO) in FIFA 12.

PES has a pretty good framework, but it's also very "Japanese" (by which I mean, technical & not consumer-friendly) in its menus and interfaces and the near total lack of real licenses really does kill the longevity. Respect your opinion and absolutely hope they can continue making a competitive product, but I'm with the majority on this one that FIFA 12 is just a better product. I view the new Manager Mode as worlds superior to what they put out last year, and if they could just keep this framework with some significant improvements to tactical defending (which I stopped using) and especially AI, FIFA 13 could be even more special.

[Gonira]

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"wow, look at their passing! it's like a computer game!"

almost fell of my chair when i heard martin tyler say this. it's even funnier because i'm on my 3rd season and that was the first time i ever heard this line. look how much time the old man needed to notice hahaha

[jb12780]

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If they fixed transfer logic in MM, the lack of fouls, and CPU crosses this game would be golden IMO.

[bad_philanthropy]

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If they fixed transfer logic in MM, the lack of fouls, and CPU crosses this game would be golden IMO.

Agree on all points, but have to add progression for young players. Youth players don't progress much post patch and it results in all players in the game being rated too low and not having special moves later on in CM.

[Guffers]

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I finally picked this up for PC. It looks fantastic and is the best playing football game I've ever played. Tough but seemingly fair against the CPU.

Anybody else on the PC should check out Fidel's Gameplay Mod, it improves things a lot, making the refs stricter and the ball feels heavier and less prone to shooting up like its full of helium. Also the CPU seems to vary its attack more and use skill moves to devasting effect.

[yopis]

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Game is brilliant and far more sim than PES on full manual setting with analog sprint. Games are dynamic and fluid. Default assisted settings are garbage imo. Assisted passing almost breaks the game. Also late in games when cpu goes into full press don't give up the ball unless you have too. Change tactics or use custom tactics where help is closer to avoid turnovers.

On headers jump when the arc of the ball hit's it's peak and is headed downwards. Make the goalie stay in the net and not run out or vise versa. Game is dynamic and fluid you have change and think constantly on the fly to win.

The same routines that worked all game can change in a flash. Game is not cheap online or off you just have to play long enough to master it. If not let go of the frustration and grab something else. No worries I just came back to fifa last year and full manual while frustrating saved the game for me. Watch enough real matches and see how many shots go just wide it happens. Wish more people played that way it is the true game.

[Tomba]

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Best Buy has it now for 39.99.

Due to the career mode I never thought this game was worth 59.99.

BUT with it now at 40 The gameplay is some of the best this sports gaming generation has seen

[kerosene31]

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Did they ever fix the lack of fouls? I never got 12 this year mostly because this past fall was loaded with tons of big games.

Might be worth picking up for $40 now though.

[lhslancers]

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Did they ever fix the lack of fouls? I never got 12 this year mostly because this past fall was loaded with tons of big games.

Might be worth picking up for $40 now though.

No but it isn't a game breaker for me.

[kerosene31]

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Well I picked this up for $40. I only played 1 game, so these are initial impressions.

I played the demo last night and struggled as I tried to play it like past games (trying to steal the ball every moment). I read some of the great guides online and played defense as was suggested and had a great game. I took away space and passing options and used pressure with teammates and ended up in a scoreless draw (but a fun one). I set everything on manual and missed some opportunities that should have been finished (but not in a frustrating way, I'm just out of practice).

The foul thing did bite me once... almost. One of my center backs was about to clear when he was taken down from behind very questionably which ended up in a great scoring opportunity, but it didn't go in.

Still only 1 game, but I like what I've seen so far mostly. Well worth the $40 for anyone on the fence I would think. The NHL game always dominates my fall, but now I should have time for this.