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  • JoeRyan33
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    • Jan 2008
    • 1005

    #121
    Re: MLB 12 The Show Video - Marlins Park

    But I'll bet it wasn't on an inside pitch.
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    • M_F_Z
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      • Jan 2012
      • 127

      #122
      Re: MLB 12 The Show Video - Marlins Park

      Originally posted by JoeRyan33
      But I'll bet it wasn't on an inside pitch.
      I'm not going to waste my time researching any of that, but I don't see why it's impossible to hit a pitch low and inside in the zone to opposite field. It would just be an inside out projection.

      What location do you consider optimal for hitting the ball hard to opposite field ?

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      • tvman
        MVP
        • Nov 2010
        • 1392

        #123
        Re: MLB 12 The Show Video - Marlins Park

        Reyes is a switch hitter, i 'm guessing he hit that hr. to left off a leftie.

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        • Blzer
          Resident film pundit
          • Mar 2004
          • 42546

          #124
          Re: MLB 12 The Show Video - Marlins Park

          Originally posted by nemesis04
          Are we certain that hit was a home run? We never saw it play out. Could have been an out or curved foul in the end and they gave you the illusion he hit it out with the carnival going off in the next frame. Just saying!
          Certainly. I was merely going off the home run celebration cam, plus the carnival going off afterward, as you said.

          No reason for us to be misled, though. If that kind of home run is possible, it's better/easier that we know than being told "Maybe our mind is just playing tricks with us." It's okay for games to have flaws, after all. I'm not saying you're defending the game, because I look at all possibilities as well. I'm just going with the most plausible one.

          Originally posted by M_F_Z
          He did it at least once last year..

          Reyes is a switch-hitter, so he might have hit that one out right-handed. Of his seven home runs, one was right-handed. It's fair to assume that all of his home runs were pulled last year, as opposed to having two opposite field home runs.

          EDIT: Just noticed the poster above me said that.
          Last edited by Blzer; 02-06-2012, 11:26 PM.
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          • thaSLAB
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            • Feb 2008
            • 4496

            #125
            Re: MLB 12 The Show Video - Marlins Park

            Originally posted by Blzer
            I'm certain they've done some tweaks with that as well. However, as you can see, they might not be accounting for pull power vs. opposite field power as much as they should be. I don't even think Reyes can hit an oppo home run, no matter where the pitch is (I think I've seen him do it in Philly, but every other NL East stadium would be too deep).
            The changes includes bat/ball, ball/air, and ball/environment physics, with the two latter being the most noticeable. As for the Reyes homerun, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a dev/test dictated event... even with that, we don't know how far that ball traveled.
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            • tvman
              MVP
              • Nov 2010
              • 1392

              #126
              Re: MLB 12 The Show Video - Marlins Park

              Odds are that was a hr. by Reyes in the video and it shouldn't be a big surprise if it was as this kind of stuff has been in the game for as long as i've been playing it.

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              • johnnyg83
                MVP
                • Jul 2002
                • 1060

                #127
                Re: MLB 12 The Show Video - Marlins Park

                Originally posted by M_F_Z
                I'm not going to waste my time researching any of that, but I don't see why it's impossible to hit a pitch low and inside in the zone to opposite field. It would just be an inside out projection.

                What location do you consider optimal for hitting the ball hard to opposite field ?
                Certainly it's not impossible, just not likely for a hitter of Reyes' caliber. And it's been an issue that's plagued the game for a while. So when I saw it, I wondered where the physics changes they had been talking about were implemented. IMHO, the past iterations have had far too much power to the opposite field for all hitters.

                As to your question about optimal spot, I would say anything on the outside half of the plate has a better chance of being hit hard to the opposite field vs. a low and inside pitch (or high and inside of that matter).

                Not sure if I'm reading this right http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...jo01&year=&t=b but it looks like he was batting right-handed when he hit that HR to left field last year.
                Last edited by johnnyg83; 02-06-2012, 06:26 PM. Reason: stats addition

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                • cavsfan2
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                  • Aug 2010
                  • 3908

                  #128
                  Re: MLB 12 The Show Video - Marlins Park

                  Who cares whether or not the stadium is weird? Nobodys going to be there anyway.

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                  • EnigmaNemesis
                    Animal Liberation
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 12223

                    #129
                    Originally posted by thaSLAB
                    The changes includes bat/ball, ball/air, and ball/environment physics, with the two latter being the most noticeable. As for the Reyes homerun, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a dev/test dictated event... even with that, we don't know how far that ball traveled.
                    I was just going to say that it more than likely was a dev dictated event for the video.

                    Because every inside pitch when we were there that was late and jammed were loopers and nubbers, very little with true power.

                    Also this video is from December, lots have been tweaked to the physics since then.

                    But as with every year, we critique old builds as if they are master gold.
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                    • Blzer
                      Resident film pundit
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 42546

                      #130
                      Re: MLB 12 The Show Video - Marlins Park

                      Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis
                      But as with every year, we critique old builds as if they are master gold.
                      What about when we reserve our thoughts until the final build, and the issues are still there?

                      I'm not saying this is one of those things, but there have been times when I've heard "old build," and yet the problem still appears in the game. This isn't just for The Show, by the way. Every game I run into has posts like that.

                      Besides, we can only judge what we see. I like to take people's words for things, but I'd rather be disappointed sooner than later.
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                      • jermo
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                        • Aug 2010
                        • 50

                        #131
                        Other than the aquaruim that stadium is ugly!!! Its like a new tropicana, the homerun thing is horrendous and that little centerfield triangle is screaming GIMMICK! Hopefully this isn't the final product.

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                        • EnigmaNemesis
                          Animal Liberation
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 12223

                          #132
                          Originally posted by Blzer
                          What about when we reserve our thoughts until the final build, and the issues are still there?

                          I'm not saying this is one of those things, but there have been times when I've heard "old build," and yet the problem still appears in the game. This isn't just for The Show, by the way. Every game I run into has posts like that.

                          Besides, we can only judge what we see. I like to take people's words for things, but I'd rather be disappointed sooner than later.
                          "Reserving Judgement" means that you will not judge till it comes out.

                          I was referring to those critiquing, and having a "sky is falling" demeanor.

                          Big difference. Especially when I know these are "dev tool" moments to capture highlights for the trailers.

                          Like I said, I personally did not see those shots while there. In fact, we all commented on how it seemed to have "lack of power" when late on those pithes.
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                          • Blzer
                            Resident film pundit
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 42546

                            #133
                            Re: MLB 12 The Show Video - Marlins Park

                            Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis
                            "Reserving Judgement" means that you will not judge till it comes out.

                            I was referring to those critiquing, and having a "sky is falling" demeanor.
                            Oh, I know. I'm just saying that there are a lot of things I don't even bother mentioning, either because I take the "old build" approach, hoping it would be fixed later. Sometimes, those don't end up being fixed.

                            And no one ever said the sky is falling, they just report what they see.

                            Big difference. Especially when I know these are "dev tool" moments to capture highlights for the trailers.
                            This may be the case. I don't know why they would even bother with making things like this questionable though, if that makes sense. If they want to remove doubt (just like the analog stick thing), it would be nice to show the "right things," so to speak.

                            Like I said, I personally did not see those shots while there. In fact, we all commented on how it seemed to have "lack of power" when late on those pithes.
                            This is very good news, and I am glad that it might be the case where this wouldn't be something which happens very often, if at all.

                            Anyway, I'll stop talking.
                            Last edited by Blzer; 02-06-2012, 11:01 PM.
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                            • thaSLAB
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                              • Feb 2008
                              • 4496

                              #134
                              LOL, I've just decided to take the wait and see approach... meaning, I'll just suggest that people wait and see for answers to their questions.



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                              • EnigmaNemesis
                                Animal Liberation
                                • Apr 2006
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                                #135
                                Originally posted by thaSLAB
                                LOL, I've just decided to take the wait and see approach... meaning, I'll just suggest that people wait and see for answers to their questions.



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