What is that one seemingly unstoppable pitch play called?

[c2v24b]

EDIT: Pic added below

Every time I get beat by more than a touchdown or two, it's because someone uses this pitch play. I don't know how exactly to describe it except that I think it uses two fullbacks and it's really, really effective. The only way I've figured out how to stop it is by running everyone in that direction...and then they just audible the pitch in the other direction and score anyway. I wish I could give more details...but the people with really really good records online always seem to use this play.

Anyone know what I'm talking about?

EDIT: I drew a crappy picture of roughly what the starting positions look like:

[raulstar12]

Re: What is that one seemingly unstoppable pitch play called?

goal line formation pro style????????

[TheNumber35]

Re: What is that one seemingly unstoppable pitch play called?

Every time I get beat by more than a touchdown or two, it's because someone uses this play. I don't know how exactly to describe it except that it's a really, really effective pitch play and the only way I've figured out how to stop it is by running everyone in that direction...and then they just audible the pitch in the other direction and score anyway. I wish I could give more details...but the people with really really good records online always seem to use this play.

Anyone know what I'm talking about?

I think I know of the play...I'd assume its a power formation and they're using a sweep play of some sort, but typically I just call these CHEESE because that is what they are. Its an exploit of a known issue with the AI. That play is a big part in why I just don't play random online games anymore, as pretty much everyone who still plays random online matches typically picks Oregon and runs sweeps 45 times a game

[c2v24b]

Re: What is that one seemingly unstoppable pitch play called?

I think I know of the play...I'd assume its a power formation and they're using a sweep play of some sort, but typically I just call these CHEESE because that is what they are. Its an exploit of a known issue with the AI. That play is a big part in why I just don't play random online games anymore, as pretty much everyone who still plays random online matches typically picks Oregon and runs sweeps 45 times a game

Exactly! So frustrating haha

[c2v24b]

Re: What is that one seemingly unstoppable pitch play called?

goal line formation pro style????????

Thanks! That definitely looks like part of it:


...but then if I recall correctly there's a WR on the left too...are there any plays like that?

And more importantly...how do I stop it??

[raulstar12]

Re: What is that one seemingly unstoppable pitch play called?

ummmm gotta have super fast linebackers and safteys and cbs and just hope they have outside contain lol

[blkrptnt819]

goal line formation pro style????????

Goal line power I

[DocBean]

Re: What is that one seemingly unstoppable pitch play called?

I'm running the pro offense, and I don't have this formation under goal line.

However I do have a similar play that's just as effective.
My starter ran for over 350 yards last night, and I subbed him out in the 3rd, and my backups ran for over 150 more.... and I was only using it every few plays. It usually worked for a TD, and always worked for at least 5-6 yards.

It's not under goalline, but Strong I.
You pick tight formation with your (RS), and it pulls your tight ends into a goal line style of formation.
It doesn't have two fullbacks, but the one FB you do have is off to the right like you're drawing.
Instead of a 2nd FB you have a receiver out to the side you're running to.

There are a few plays, and they all work well, but Sweep works the best.
Two linemen pull out to the strong side that you're running to, and always pick up all the blocks. I rarely had to juke anyone, and just had to stay behind my blockers until I was past the secondary.

It's too easy to run, even on heisman settings, so I don't suggest it, but thought you might like to try it, if you don't have the Power I formation.

[Broncos86]

Re: What is that one seemingly unstoppable pitch play called?

Whenever I face strong option offenses, I usually call something like Cover 1 Robber. For me, that guarantees I have one defender manned against the RB, and the safety in zone coverage underneath typically is able to react to the QB. This has worked for me against offenses that run the ball off the edge. Slant my d-line in the direction I think the run is going, and I'm off and away.

[madguitarskillz1]

Re: What is that one seemingly unstoppable pitch play called?

To stop outside runs, keep your lbs off the line of scrimmage. Do not blitz. Run commit is a waste also. I run 3-4 predator cover 2 zone and keep my lbs off the LOS. The 3 man dline will get double teams leaving mlbs to make the play. If they run option use 3-4 solid cover2. I got into the top 500 playing with houstons C+ defense. Guys had to throw it to beat me. Also line up defense to match offense strength. If the strong I is to field side flip predator.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Re: What is that one seemingly unstoppable pitch play called?

If they run the play without wideouts, I call this play out of the 4-3 that sends both corners on the blitz and sends the DTs and every one behind into zone. Quickly audbile the DLine to crash to the strong side of the formation and control the LB on the weak side (leave them in zones). What should happen is the corner will come crashing in on the blitz and engage the first blocker, causing a logjam which allows your LBs and Safeties to react to the play. The LB you are controlling should be able to run him down by the LOS if the LB on the play side hasn't done so already.

Do NOT call typical blitzes, because what happens is that this defaults to putting the corners in man coverage. With no WRs, they will line head up on the TE and leave no one on the outside to stop the play.

[whodat7]

Re: What is that one seemingly unstoppable pitch play called?

Everyone is different, but I will usually go in like a 2-4-5 Nickel or a Dime package. Point everyone is making is you need speed to get into the backfield and contain the play before it develops. So probably best to take that concept and do whatever defensive call is best for your style of play.

[madguitarskillz1]

Re: What is that one seemingly unstoppable pitch play called?

Yes you do need speed but you need players that have good block shedding on the outside also. 4-3 under cover 2, 3-4( as I stated earlier) and the 335 are workable. Don't come out in nickel or dime because you will get destroyed if they decide to go up the middle. There is a play in the Power I called double iso that goes right up the middle with 2 lead blockers for 3 yds minimum. If they sub in TE's to block, they will run it straight down your throat.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Re: What is that one seemingly unstoppable pitch play called?

Another thing to add, though some at OP consider this off-limits, is to set Strip Ball to Aggressive. You will typically give up an extra 1-2 yards per tackle, but if you can keep him from breaking out in long runs then you will get probably 8-10 chances to force a fumble per drive and that could be enough to swing the game.

[whodat7]

Re: What is that one seemingly unstoppable pitch play called?

Yes you do need speed but you need players that have good block shedding on the outside also. 4-3 under cover 2, 3-4( as I stated earlier) and the 335 are workable. Don't come out in nickel or dime because you will get destroyed if they decide to go up the middle. There is a play in the Power I called double iso that goes right up the middle with 2 lead blockers for 3 yds minimum. If they sub in TE's to block, they will run it straight down your throat.

Not necessarily true. Depends on your roster, who you are controlling as a user, and how you play. Yes, it's good to have block shedding but not always necessary.

That's why I said you just need to take a concept and design around it. What's your goal? Containing it without giving up the pass or completely shutting it down?

For example, If I'm 90%-100% sure its a run, a Dime All out Blitz with me controlling the safety almost always allows me to get into the backfield untouched. It's just a matter of me not over pursuing and making the tackle