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  • DeuceDouglas
    Madden Dev Team
    • Apr 2010
    • 4297

    #46
    Yikes! That was almost hard to watch.

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    • dunkyboy
      Rookie
      • Feb 2012
      • 25

      #47
      Re: MLB 2K12 Video - Official Trailer

      Hi folks,
      Long time lurker, first post I've read with interest the comments on this game's graphics. As a long suffering cricket fan (bear with me!), I've had to put up with some truly appalling computer games over the years. As a result, I've maybe developed a relatively high tolerance for crappy graphics.

      I've only recently discovered baseball, and I picked up MLB 2k11 a few weeks ago. I have to say I thought the graphics were fine and the commentary and presentation were top notch (remember I'm comparing this to the likes of International Cricket 2010 however).

      Anyway, what I think I'm trying to say is that for me gameplay and the 'feel' of a game will always trump graphical prowess, and I for one am really looking forward to march the 6th.

      Now if only 2k could be persuaded to take on a cricket game....

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      • peigone
        Banned
        • Jun 2010
        • 1050

        #48
        Re: MLB 2K12 Video - Official Trailer

        Originally posted by dunkyboy
        I've had to put up with some truly appalling computer games over the years. As a result, I've maybe developed a relatively high tolerance for crappy graphics.
        Hey dunky, welcome. Graphics aren't big on my priority list. I sometimes even prefer simplistic graphics in games. What I don't get though and find difficult to accept is how 2K screws up the most obvious and basic aspects of the game's appearance. Nobody is expecting cutting-edge at this point, that's a given. But there is simply no excuse for getting teams' MLB uniform colors completely wrong, every single year. That's just sloppy, lazy programming. I spent many hours last year recoloring all teams' unis, caps, etc. (PC version.) RGB values for caps were wrong and different from uniform RGB values, which were also wrong and different again from equipment RGB values. From that perspective, the game was a mess graphically.
        Last edited by peigone; 02-10-2012, 07:19 AM.

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        • bigfnjoe96
          Hall Of Fame
          • Feb 2004
          • 11410

          #49
          Originally posted by peigone
          Hey dunky, welcome. Graphics aren't big on my priority list. I sometimes even prefer simplistic graphics in games. What I don't get though and find difficult to accept is how 2K screws up the most obvious and basic aspects of the game's appearance. Nobody is expecting cutting-edge at this point, that's a given. But there is simply no excuse for getting teams' MLB uniform colors completely wrong, every single year. That's just sloppy, lazy programming. I spent many hours last year recoloring all teams' unis, caps, etc. (PC version.) RGB values for caps were wrong and different from uniform RGB values, which were also wrong and different again from equipment RGB values. From that perspective, the game was a mess graphically.
          The real issue is, there's no Color Standard for Video Games developed on consoles.

          Devlopers don't have to adhere to Color Space specs. It would be nice but they don't. Hence the issue with color.

          I've compained about this issue all the time. 2k has gotten better, but until the video game industry make this a standard, my guess is we will continue to see this issue on consoles.



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          • adfletch71
            Banned
            • Nov 2006
            • 727

            #50
            Re: MLB 2K12 Video - Official Trailer

            I really hope the warping of the ball in the glove and that one second hesitation too throw home is fixed, that drove me crazy with the AI. I hope 2k give us mix & match of uniforms, because my washington nationals wore there red top with there grey bottoms last season and it wasn't in the game. A lot of uniforms that the real MLB wasn't in the game as far as mix & matches. I really hope that they concentrate on fixing the bugs that plagued last year. Really don't mind new features, because 2k11 was solid, just the little things that messed it up. If check swing, DL bug, franchise stats bug, Better injury presentation, Better AI situation strategy, dynamic crowd attendance, soft liners, opposite field HR and base running are fixed, then MLB2k12 will be my game the most played in my library. Here's too hoping

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            • peigone
              Banned
              • Jun 2010
              • 1050

              #51
              Re: MLB 2K12 Video - Official Trailer

              Originally posted by bigfnjoe96
              The real issue is, there's no Color Standard for Video Games developed on consoles.

              Devlopers don't have to adhere to Color Space specs. It would be nice but they don't. Hence the issue with color.

              I've compained about this issue all the time. 2k has gotten better, but until the video game industry make this a standard, my guess is we will continue to see this issue on consoles.
              My question is why is it I can spend 10 minutes with a PC editor and fix a team's cap, uni and equipment colors so they're all identical AND with the correct RGB values assigned? Why can't the 2K devs do the same before the game is shipped?

              2K is tasked with the job of recreating the MLB baseball experience. I understand if the graphics aren't up to par, that's not an issue. I can understand if the gameplay isn't 100% great, which game ever is? I even understand that bugs and glitches occur. But why the heck can't the game makers at the very least get each team's uniform colors all aligned, regardless of the RGB values they decide on for each team? Especially given I can do it on my PC working with some funky little editing program I downloaded.

              I love 2K, always have. I just don't get their inattention to detail and their lack of interest in fixing something so glaringly noticable, especially when it would be so easy to do.

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              • bigfnjoe96
                Hall Of Fame
                • Feb 2004
                • 11410

                #52
                Re: MLB 2K12 Video - Official Trailer

                Originally posted by peigone
                My question is why is it I can spend 10 minutes with a PC editor and fix a team's cap, uni and equipment colors so they're all identical AND with the correct RGB values assigned? Why can't the 2K devs do the same before the game is shipped?

                2K is tasked with the job of recreating the MLB baseball experience. I understand if the graphics aren't up to par, that's not an issue. I can understand if the gameplay isn't 100% great, which game ever is? I even understand that bugs and glitches occur. But why the heck can't the game makers at the very least get each team's uniform colors all aligned, regardless of the RGB values they decide on for each team? Especially given I can do it on my PC working with some funky little editing program I downloaded.

                I love 2K, always have. I just don't get their inattention to detail and their lack of interest in fixing something so glaringly noticable, especially when it would be so easy to do.
                Because again Color Space Specs are not a standard on Consoles & this game is developed for consoles then ported over to PC. For the PC RGB is a standard. Also with PC's the graphics are determined by the Graphics Card.

                This is why MODS are always available to enhance the experience, compared to consoles where everything is locked-in. This has always been this way in gaming.

                That's why you get PC/Console wars all the time

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                • ckarlic
                  So Real!!
                  • May 2003
                  • 4999

                  #53
                  Re: MLB 2K12 Video - Official Trailer

                  Game is looking good. I may pick up the combo pack (MLB 2k12 and NBA 2k12).
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                  • peigone
                    Banned
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 1050

                    #54
                    Re: MLB 2K12 Video - Official Trailer

                    Originally posted by bigfnjoe96
                    Because again Color Space Specs are not a standard on Consoles
                    Maybe I'm not understanding, but I don't see how that impacts at least getting the cap, uni and equipment all the same color, regardless of the RGB values they choose. Can't they at least use the same RGB values for all three? Why for example would a team have one shade of red for their caps, a different shade of red for the trim on their unis, and a third shade for the catcher's gear? That's not an RGB standardization issue, that's just a lack of attention to detail is it not?

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                    • bigfnjoe96
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 11410

                      #55
                      Re: MLB 2K12 Video - Official Trailer

                      Originally posted by peigone
                      Maybe I'm not understanding, but I don't see how that impacts at least getting the cap, uni and equipment all the same color, regardless of the RGB values they choose. Can't they at least use the same RGB values for all three? Why for example would a team have one shade of red for their caps, a different shade of red for the trim on their unis, and a third shade for the catcher's gear? That's not an RGB standardization issue, that's just a lack of attention to detail is it not?
                      I've seen the game get team color totally wrong, but I have never seen a team have 3 different shades of a color on 1 uniform. If you have please post a picture so I can see what your talking about.

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                      • Knight165
                        *ll St*r
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 24964

                        #56
                        Re: MLB 2K12 Video - Official Trailer

                        Honestly...
                        I don't get the hate for the game from this trailer.

                        It looks improved in gameplay...

                        Now I'm not one on graphics....so it's easy for me to dismiss them as not being improved, honestly....it just doesn't bother me. They are not that bad.

                        But isn't it more important that they discussed(elsewhere maybe) that they worked on ironing out the bugs and glitches that hindered the game in '11?

                        bf'n joe....love the DRIVE avatar!!(under the radar flick if you ask me!)

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                        • bigfnjoe96
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 11410

                          #57
                          Re: MLB 2K12 Video - Official Trailer

                          Originally posted by Knight165
                          Honestly...
                          I don't get the hate for the game from this trailer.

                          It looks improved in gameplay...

                          Now I'm not one on graphics....so it's easy for me to dismiss them as not being improved, honestly....it just doesn't bother me. They are not that bad.

                          But isn't it more important that they discussed(elsewhere maybe) that they worked on ironing out the bugs and glitches that hindered the game in '11?

                          bf'n joe....love the DRIVE avatar!!(under the radar flick if you ask me!)

                          M.K.
                          Knight165
                          They said they've worked on polishing the game & fixing bugs, but unfortunately until the game hit's stores or we get an in-depth preview/review it's all talk. We'll see how it turns out.

                          As for Drive. Simply amazing movie. 1 of my all-time favorites

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                          • Cavicchi
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 2841

                            #58
                            Re: MLB 2K12 Video - Official Trailer

                            I don't get all this talk about color shading of caps. I just want hitting to be a little easier, slower pitch speed, and no bugs and I'm good to go. Everything I've seen in in the trailer looks fine.

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                            • ckarlic
                              So Real!!
                              • May 2003
                              • 4999

                              #59
                              Re: MLB 2K12 Video - Official Trailer

                              Originally posted by DeuceDouglas
                              Yikes! That was almost hard to watch.
                              I don't know. I thought the video looked good. Reserving judgement until i can see actual gameplay footage.
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                              • DickDalewood
                                All Star
                                • Aug 2010
                                • 6263

                                #60
                                Re: MLB 2K12 Video - Official Trailer

                                Originally posted by jp121272
                                I don't get all this talk about color shading of caps. I just want hitting to be a little easier, slower pitch speed, and no bugs and I'm good to go. Everything I've seen in in the trailer looks fine.
                                SLOWER pitch speeds and easier hitting? Really?

                                It's already all timing based, and the pitch speed is already the slower of the two options in this genre.

                                Plus, aren't there pitch speed sliders?

                                Hitting is definitely not something I ever would have pegged as being too difficult in this series.

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