MLB 12 The Show Fact Sheet

[Pared]

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Just because I don't coddle certain people and constantly blow sunshine up their butts doesn't make me rude, only a realist.

Again - you can continue to choose to conduct yourself this way on the forums. Your actions dictate everything.

[SoxFan01605]

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Words have meanings. "Play as intended..." does not mean "Play like I want..." "Play against people in my friend's list..." does not mean "Play against only people in my friend's list..." "Realist" does not mean "Polite, thoughtful member of discourse" and finally "Comprehend" does not mean "Read your mind".

If you write one thing, but mean another, confusion will inevitably occur. Polite, intelligent people do not normally respond to that confusion with belligerence.

Ignoring the rest of the stuff (as it's none of my business), I don't think Bahnzo meant "as intended" to imply that the game is intended to be played against friends as opposed to randoms.

I think when Bahnzo says "play as intended" he's talking about cheaters vs non-cheaters. In other words, he's saying if you better weed out the cheaters, it doesn't have to impact the rest of us who play legitimately (i.e. "as intended"). That's what I took from it, anyway.

Again, I'm not debating tone, etc or even whether or not there is a realistically feasible way to achieve that from a development standpoint, as I have no idea. I just think the "as intended" comment seems to have sidetracked the point...which seems to be that he (and presumably others) would like a more streamlined way to play against friends while maintaining the intended ( ) integrity of the mode.

[Woodweaver]

Ignoring the rest of the stuff (as it's none of my business), I don't think Bahnzo meant "as intended" to imply that the game is intended to be played against friends as opposed to randoms.

I think when Bahnzo says "play as intended" he's talking about cheaters vs non-cheaters. In other words, he's saying if you better weed out the cheaters, it doesn't have to impact the rest of us who play legitimately (i.e. "as intended"). That's what I took from it, anyway.

Again, I'm not debating tone, etc or even whether or not there is a realistically feasible way to achieve that from a development standpoint, as I have no idea. I just think the "as intended" comment seems to have sidetracked the point...which seems to be that he (and presumably others) would like a more streamlined way to play against friends while maintaining the intended ( ) integrity of the mode.

That's a good point. But, if weeding out cheaters was a simple, non-resource draining task, I'm sure every game producer/publisher would have done it. Every game has a different set of rules that can be exploited in different ways though, and staffing and maintaining a "police force" is just not a viable (or desirable) option. So, unfortunately it is necessary to procedurally make cheating difficult. I think you'll find this approach in almost every aspect of our lives.

Don't get me wrong. I would love to live the ideal, but then a friend's list wouldn't really be that necessary. :-)

[EnigmaNemesis]

Are there any new homerun cameras this year that watch the flight of the ball?...I saw one video where they show the outfielder looking up as the ball goes over the wall, and on the video showing Battistas home run in toronto, it had last years homerun derby angle where it zooms in on the ball then backs off it (awesome angle hope its added into reg games this year)

Yes, there is new cameras for home runs in different parks that is all a part of the new broadcast package!

[TheHammer19]

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Yes, there is new cameras for home runs in different parks that is all a part of the new broadcast package!

Sounds Awesome!!! Can't wait!!

[Bahnzo]

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That's a good point. But, if weeding out cheaters was a simple, non-resource draining task, I'm sure every game producer/publisher would have done it. Every game has a different set of rules that can be exploited in different ways though, and staffing and maintaining a "police force" is just not a viable (or desirable) option. So, unfortunately it is necessary to procedurally make cheating difficult. I think you'll find this approach in almost every aspect of our lives.

Don't get me wrong. I would love to live the ideal, but then a friend's list wouldn't really be that necessary. :-)

I'm gonna answer this, as much as I intend to remove myself from further discussions.

From what I've read, and I mean only what I've read...maybe it's untrue...there's to be policing on people selling DD cards for too much money...and from creating DD logo's that are obscene (based on who's criteria?). So it's possible to police things like this, but not cheating in online games modes? C'mon..?!

I could write a script that flags potential cheaters easily. Based on what I've heard that online games will be played thru a central server. Then if you are saving game stats, it should be easy to write a script, run it once a week, and report the results to someone to verify and make a decision on people abusing the mode.

But then again, I suppose that is it easier to employ someone to look for a team logo that resembles a penis.

[scooteristkai]

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What about making the games against people on one´s friendlist unranked in the future then? People could compare their teams against the teams of their friends without cheating their way up the ranks that way!

That's a good point. But, if weeding out cheaters was a simple, non-resource draining task, I'm sure every game producer/publisher would have done it. Every game has a different set of rules that can be exploited in different ways though, and staffing and maintaining a "police force" is just not a viable (or desirable) option. So, unfortunately it is necessary to procedurally make cheating difficult. I think you'll find this approach in almost every aspect of our lives.

Don't get me wrong. I would love to live the ideal, but then a friend's list wouldn't really be that necessary. :-)

[Rhinoboy50]

Banzai said "penis". (insert childish giggle here)

[Rhinoboy50]

Oops Bahnzo not Banzai. Stupid auto correct.

[nomo17k]

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I could write a script that flags potential cheaters easily. Based on what I've heard that online games will be played thru a central server. Then if you are saving game stats, it should be easy to write a script, run it once a week, and report the results to someone to verify and make a decision on people abusing the mode.

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I have always used stats to gauge whether an online player is "legit" or not in 11... for example I weeded out those with very high SB/CS numbers since that indicates someone who constantly early steals on every pitch. I hated that mostly because it slows down games too much, not to mention it's not so realistic to see so many early steals within a game.

But whether such a player is "legit" can still be subjective. After all, early steal is a legit game mechanics. If the game allows a certain move, why is a gamer not supposed to use it, you know what I mean? So policing can only go so far IMO... Something like deliberate pulling would become easier to detect on the client server system now, but whether a gamer plays fairly or not... it could take needless amount of human resources.

With more ways to filter players, things will be okay...

I think the issue is that for some reason, there's this notion about online gaming that gamers want to be ranked in one and only one universe... to do that everyone needs to be fairly randomly matched against players coming from a wide spectrum of play styles, even if some of them don't care at all about being ranked, just want to play the game certain ways... and that's the culprit.

[barsoffury]

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I'm really looking forward to this years game and all the things they've fixed/added but I'm very disappointed to see (or so it seems) that they still don't have dome stadiums that work. Maybe it's not a big deal to most but if your someone like me who plays a Jays franchise it's annoying to play two thirds of your home games in cold temperatures. ( Oh ya another thing, it shouldn't be 40 degrees in June in Toronto, weather needs to be fixed.)

I know it's a small detail but this game prides itself on the little things that make the game so life like yet this issue they keep ignoring.

[FreezeTime]

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^^Bring it up in the thread for next years game when it's posted.

[JayD]

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Dynamic fielding results and reaction (balls can now be dropped or missed by a fielder anytime)

I like to have my games to be as sim as possible so I always use classic pitching, timing only hitting, and autp fielding so that player attributes play more of a role. With that said I was wondering if we'll see more dropped balls from outfielders and do player attributes play more of a role to fielding as a whole.

[Jaybirdy23]

http://tucsoncitizen.com/bear-down-a...er-560x373.jpg look at this photo. I know they added in the red socks this year, but they need to make it to where you can wear this jersey combination. I know how you can wear the white jersey and alt home pants would make it have the red socks, and then youd select red hat. The only thing I can't figure out is to get the red helmet since it's based on the jersey, so itd go to the blue helmet. I also think it would have the blue undershirt and accessories, which is red in real life. They really should make it to where you can have this jersey combination in the game because the rangers wore it s lot last year. They wore so much that it was basically their number 1 home jersey combination. If anyone would know how you could get the red helmet in there let me know.

[thaSLAB]

Stop. Please.


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