MLB 12 The Show Trailer - CC Sabathia

[sbmnky]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Trailer - CC Sabathia

If I'm not mistaken it appears the first blog last year was on February 10th and there were only 3 or 4 actual blogs to go along with the different themed trailers. I don't believe we've gotten any less info this year than we had at this point last year. We certainly have been given lots of info about the game, even if we haven't seen a bunch of pics. You hit the point when you said the word spoiled - I can't name many games that give us this much access and insight during development - yet we still complain for more.

I think it was 2 or 3 years ago when SD released a ton of information - it seemed like every day we had a new blog, video or screenshot. I think this ultimately leads to a headache for Ramone, because giving us access is a double edged sword. On the one hand we get the content we crave keeping us at bay and on the other, Ramone has to do a bit of PR by answering a ton of questions relating to the content released or defending it from unsubstantiated critiques. That is not to say the game is perfect and I think SD Studios would be the first one to point this out, but critiquing a game that has yet to be released is a premature in my opinion.

The CD event is awesome because it gives OS a medium to directly connect with the developers. Most of the information we receive is from the attendees of the event and because the information isn't supplemented with media, some of us find that we are getting a lack of information - which clearly is not the case. [/soapbox]

To make the post at least somewhat on topic, even thought the video is not of great quality, the game looks amazing. Love the "whip" on pitcher's arm.

[Bulls321974]

I'm dumbfounded at the lack of media this year. First of all what happened to the media from the CD guys? That's been absolutely non existent. They said they had to wait to post stuff but man...this long? Really?

What about all the blogs? There have been what three blogs all about fluff for the most part. I want some in depth details on the new presentation. I saw posted on this forum by one of the CD guys that all the stadiums have individual home run cameras. That's a neat feature and nowhere to be found in the fact sheet. I want a blog to highlight some of these details.

You'd think if so much was done to the presentation Sony would want to rally market that and make it known. We are still at this point largely in the dark about supposedly one of the biggest enhancements this year (presentation and commentary).

Mildly frustrating. Guess I've been spoiled by all the media we've usually seen by this point in years past, especially from the CD guys.

I absolutely agree. Don't know why so little has been uploaded yet...

[oakland89]

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Cool story bro..

No story Bro, just adding, as others have and its ok too, that a lack of media release, and lack of franchise upgrade don't really persuade me into buying the next installment of a game. Go ahead and flame me, I just don't get excited over 1.5 minute trailers that show general gameplay of someone swinging a bat or throwing a ball. Yes, do arm slots and tickers around a stadium add to the feel of a game, absolutly, but if thats whats persuading you to purchase a game, I think your missing out on what the core mechanics of a baseball game consist of. Yes, I have seen the list of new features, simply put, I as many others I would venture to say, but don't view their opinion on here for childish comments as yours, aren't going to purchase this years game based on what information has been released.

[EnigmaNemesis]

New ball physics add a whole new dimension of "core mechanics" in video game baseball. As well as the new fielding animations, branching and urgency. Tagging system, player awareness, break up plays and beauty of the double plays, etc.

Feels like a whole different evolution for baseball gaming. One where I can no longer even "watch" '11 play out, let alone play.

And that is just the tip of the slew of features they have added. But since we are on the subject of "core mechanics", I need not mention everything else.

[Knight165]

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Well...IMO Community WEEK has evolved.....for the MUCH GREATER GOOD of the community.

As being someone who has attended every one of these events.....here is my take.

We initially started as kind of a "sneak peek" group.....and that's why you saw a lot of pics and our general opinions of what we saw at the events.

Fast forward to FOUR(?) years later and it's become much more of a conduit of direct input/request from the users of the game...to the designers of the game.
Whereas initially...the devs would come into the room where we checking out the game....and we would comment on what we saw.....we now spend most of our time...checking things out....going to the devs...relaying our thoughts(community) and they ...if possible(at the point they are in development) try to implement our suggestions if possible.
This was more apparent than ever in each area that we concentrated on individually the past two years. Brett and Nem with online...Nem and Pared with gameplay...Brandon with unis and stadiums....me just taking up space(A LOT)
....and add to that the fact that Ramone wisely has pushed the process into an even greater limit by asking even more guys in every year.....that he sees are active in certain areas of the game(Yanks...with online...theSlab...stadiums/unis/online....tabarnes19 with franchise)....and it's become much more than..."take pics of this".....etc.

JMO...but I'd much rather have the time spent "working" on things than "playing and posting pics". .....and honestly...the time is shorter than you think...and we spend A TON of time in studio.
That's why we leave any of the media to SCEA.(I know they would let us at least take pics)...but even that is getting cut into as Ramone has more and more of his time taken by us with questions...***nning around chasing down answers and such as well.

This has nothing to do with me being there or not...but this is one of the smartest things a game company has done to further there product IMO.

M.K.
Knight165

[econoodle]

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Cool story bro..

really? nice contribution.
stuff like that stinks on here.

i am loving the look of yankees stadium this year!
excited to see more of what they did to those ribbons.

bring on the raw footage baby!

[Knight165]

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really? nice contribution.
stuff like that stinks on here.

i am loving the look of yankees stadium this year!
excited to see more of what they did to those ribbons.

bring on the raw footage baby!

Maybe....but so does the "no gameplay footage?....I'll stick with XXX".
Is that a necessary addition to the thread?
I think not.

M.K.
Knight165

[Yankees2009Champs]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Trailer - CC Sabathia

Maybe....but so does the "no gameplay footage?....I'll stick with XXX".
Is that a necessary addition to the thread?
I think not.

M.K.
Knight165

He may be trying to incite a riot but why all these ignorant comments?

The guy is entitled to his own opinion. And people make condescending remarks about how well see you next year? Is that your way of getting him to buy the game.

I did look at MLB 11, and surprisingly gameplat vids didn't release until February 18 and so on. Here's to seeing actual gameplay evidence that the game has improved/changed.


(Not for you Knight, just replied to the last comment on this thread)

[econoodle]

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Maybe....but so does the "no gameplay footage?....I'll stick with XXX".
Is that a necessary addition to the thread?
I think not.

M.K.
Knight165

good point.
those comments about 'no gameplay footage' can be ,kind of [but not really] related to the thread in that they see that and then wonder where to other footage is.
but hit and run type comments like the one i quoted aren't necessary and just come of as argumentative.
i mean do they really think the person isn't going to respond to it? and how will they? nicely? probably not lol
it'd probably be better to let a comment like that roll. SCEA doesn't need posters here to defend them in that regard.
do the show forums need more of that as it is?
i could probably put names in a hat of the posters who will make a snarky comment after someone says something negative about the Show, then pull them out afterwards and win my girl a kewpie doll.
i agree some of the stuff posted doesn't need to be said, this post probably as well!
peace. love.

ok enough outta me,
i gotta get ready to go a knicks game.

[thaSLAB]

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He may be trying to incite a riot but why all these ignorant comments?

The guy is entitled to his own opinion. And people make condescending remarks about how well see you next year? Is that your way of getting him to buy the game.

Opinions work both ways though. In my opinion, he is doing himself a disservice by not at least upgrading to to '11 (but I didn't want to push my opinion on anyone) Along the lines of posting replies... was the purpose of his post to get SCEA to post some footage?

[jmik58]

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I'm encouraged also by the apparent improvement to the arm action of the pitchers. I've yet to see how it looks in a gameplay video, but it looks like Sony got it pretty correct from the little slow-mo shot of CC.

I can only hope this will improve the experience at the plate by allowing for the ball to be released at the appropriate spot and to not look like it just shot out of a pitching machine. Timing is very important and we need the arm action to get timing correct.

Also, I think pitching could be more enjoyable as well. The view from behind as the pitcher's arm-whip unfolds could make for some visually stunning moments where you can almost feel the power behind the pitch. That is, of course, as long as the pitch isn't turned around for a 430' homerun.

[earp4530]

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No story Bro, just adding, as others have and its ok too, that a lack of media release, and lack of franchise upgrade don't really persuade me into buying the next installment of a game. Go ahead and flame me, I just don't get excited over 1.5 minute trailers that show general gameplay of someone swinging a bat or throwing a ball. Yes, do arm slots and tickers around a stadium add to the feel of a game, absolutly, but if thats whats persuading you to purchase a game, I think your missing out on what the core mechanics of a baseball game consist of. Yes, I have seen the list of new features, simply put, I as many others I would venture to say, but don't view their opinion on here for childish comments as yours, aren't going to purchase this years game based on what information has been released.

Childish comment? What is this, The New York Times thread? I'm simply saying nobody cares about you badmouthing a game that the devs have worked extremely hard on. The fact that we have community developers like Ramone commenting back too many of our questions is spoiling. You forgot to mention the ball physics, which is a game changer.. you don't know what you're talking about, you mentioned maybe two new additions when they just released a list with over 50.. child please.

[EnigmaNemesis]

Well said Knight.

[earp4530]

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good point.
those comments about 'no gameplay footage' can be ,kind of [but not really] related to the thread in that they see that and then wonder where to other footage is.
but hit and run type comments like the one i quoted aren't necessary and just come of as argumentative.
i mean do they really think the person isn't going to respond to it? and how will they? nicely? probably not lol
it'd probably be better to let a comment like that roll. SCEA doesn't need posters here to defend them in that regard.
do the show forums need more of that as it is?
i could probably put names in a hat of the posters who will make a snarky comment after someone says something negative about the Show, then pull them out afterwards and win my girl a kewpie doll.
i agree some of the stuff posted doesn't need to be said, this post probably as well!
peace. love.

ok enough outta me,
i gotta get ready to go a knicks game.

Cool story bro..
peace. love.<3.

[Skyboxer]

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I'm basing my purchase on the knowledge the game gets better each year.

If what SCEA has produced over the past few years doesn't get people past wanting to see 3000 minutes of film to justify a purchase then they simply want to complain just for the sake of complaining.

Not mentioning any other companies but for me until SCEA starts slowing down on the improving of an already great game, I don't need gigabite upon gigabite of videos and pics to be sure I'm buying a quality product.
They've earned that respect.