MLB 12 The Show Gameplay Video - Angels vs. Rangers

[MetsFan16]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Gameplay Video - Angels vs. Rangers

I also was a bit worried to see all the runners hold with a hit off the wall. Guess they thought it could of been caught?

The baserunners go half way when it's a fly ball to the outfield. Then David Murphy jumped and got a glove on it. Now the runners start to run back to their base. Once they see that the ball has not been caught they advance. It's basic baserunning rules. You're not going to start running around the bases when the ball is up in the air like that and could possibly be caught.

[kubankaos]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Gameplay Video - Angels vs. Rangers

I know they said all new physics, but for some reason there were a couple of foul balls that bounced off the fence that looked exactly like years past. It's like it's slows down too fast or something after hitting the wall.

Just wondering, I'm hoping it's just one of those things that you can feel when playing versus watching one video online.

[Doran]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Gameplay Video - Angels vs. Rangers

I liked that Aybar's stat overlay and commentary mention after he stole second wasn't mentioned until after the first pitch thrown post-steal. That was a neat addition.

I'm just waiting for the first uniform geek to mention that Napoli's helmet was still blue when they're wearing the red jerseys. Oh wait, that was me.

[capa]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Gameplay Video - Angels vs. Rangers

Angels pitcher is balking on almost every pitch with men on base. Never comes to a full stop.

C

[CMH]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Gameplay Video - Angels vs. Rangers

The baserunners go half way when it's a fly ball to the outfield. Then David Murphy jumped and got a glove on it. Now the runners start to run back to their base. Once they see that the ball has not been caught they advance. It's basic baserunning rules. You're not going to start running around the bases when the ball is up in the air like that and could possibly be caught.

Edit:

Watched the video again and the runners never go back.

The runner on 2nd stayed on 2nd to tag up. The runner on 1st, actually runs nearly all the way to 2nd.

I like what the runner on 1st did. Good base running.

My understanding is if you're on 2nd, you always go halfway on a ball hit to left field because you can see the ball. If it's dropped, you can score. If it's caught, you can get back to 2nd. If it's caught deep, you still might have time to tag up at 2nd and go to 3rd. That also depends on the situation. Clearly, that ball was going to be a tough catch so you gotta go halfway on that.

The runner on 2nd should have scored.


Now...there's always the off-hand chance that baserunning ability might have come into play here. I don't know.

[Haggis]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Gameplay Video - Angels vs. Rangers

From an AI perspective, what exactly does baserunning ability influence?

[nomo17k]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Gameplay Video - Angels vs. Rangers

From an AI perspective, what exactly does baserunning ability influence?

Steal success for sure... Maybe also the base path they take (i.e., you may round the bases with more optimal path)? Not very sure about the latter though.

BR aggressiveness determines how often steals are attempted... that also probably affects the aggressiveness to take the next base (not so sure).

In general CPU tended to be a bit more aggressive in base path in the past.

[Bulls321974]

HD video not playing. Could somebody upload an HD version on YouTube, please?

[BaseballT]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Gameplay Video - Angels vs. Rangers

Edit:

Watched the video again and the runners never go back.

The runner on 2nd stayed on 2nd to tag up. The runner on 1st, actually runs nearly all the way to 2nd.

I like what the runner on 1st did. Good base running.

My understanding is if you're on 2nd, you always go halfway on a ball hit to left field because you can see the ball. If it's dropped, you can score. If it's caught, you can get back to 2nd. If it's caught deep, you still might have time to tag up at 2nd and go to 3rd. That also depends on the situation. Clearly, that ball was going to be a tough catch so you gotta go halfway on that.

The runner on 2nd should have scored.


Now...there's always the off-hand chance that baserunning ability might have come into play here. I don't know.

I played college ball as a shortstop, and now coach, and the general rule is that yes if the ball is in the air, runners go halfway initially. If your on second, you actually retreat closer to the bag as the outfielder gets closer to the ball. That way if Murphy catches that ball, you are able to quickly tag up and get to third on a ball that normally you would not be able to tag on (ball to left field). I can't see the runner to say that is what happened in the game, and he probably still should have scored, but this is what is supposed to happen in real life. On a separate but related note, my concern is the outfielder's arm strength. I mean, I know Cruz has an absolute cannon, but that throw he makes is impressive by even his standards. It's more prevalent in the Cubs vs Cards vid, where Soriano throws frozen ropes that he is generally incapable of ever throwing. Just my opinion on both areas, though.

[CMH]

I played college ball as a shortstop, and now coach, and the general rule is that yes if the ball is in the air, runners go halfway initially. If your on second, you actually retreat closer to the bag as the outfielder gets closer to the ball. That way if Murphy catches that ball, you are able to quickly tag up and get to third on a ball that normally you would not be able to tag on (ball to left field). I can't see the runner to say that is what happened in the game, and he probably still should have scored, but this is what is supposed to happen in real life. On a separate but related note, my concern is the outfielder's arm strength. I mean, I know Cruz has an absolute cannon, but that throw he makes is impressive by even his standards. It's more prevalent in the Cubs vs Cards vid, where Soriano throws frozen ropes that he is generally incapable of ever throwing. Just my opinion on both areas, though.

That makes sense.

You can see the runner from the base runner window. He stays at second to tag up the whole way through.

I'll retract and say he could have scored. Never know. But there is no reason for him to immediately tag up on 2nd once the ball is hit in the air.

Having said that, if this is my biggest complaint in what amounts to about an hour of footage yesterday then this game is amazing.


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[BaseballT]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Gameplay Video - Angels vs. Rangers

That makes sense.

You can see the runner from the base runner window. He stays at second to tag up the whole way through.

I'll retract and say he could have scored. Never know. But there is no reason for him to immediately tag up on 2nd once the ball is hit in the air.

Having said that, if this is my biggest complaint in what amounts to about an hour of footage yesterday then this game is amazing.


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Yea that's what I was thinking too. It looks fantastic and my biggest issue now is I alhave to wait to play it!

[PsychoBulk]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Gameplay Video - Angels vs. Rangers

Colby Lewis getting pounded early on...realism at its finest

[thaSLAB]

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I played college ball as a shortstop, and now coach, and the general rule is that yes if the ball is in the air, runners go halfway initially. If your on second, you actually retreat closer to the bag as the outfielder gets closer to the ball. That way if Murphy catches that ball, you are able to quickly tag up and get to third on a ball that normally you would not be able to tag on (ball to left field). I can't see the runner to say that is what happened in the game, and he probably still should have scored, but this is what is supposed to happen in real life.

You can look at the baserunner box on the right, and they did exactly what you explained. That's pretty much my understanding too... maybe could have scored, but that may be a result (or non-result) of what you mentioned here:

On a separate but related note, my concern is the outfielder's arm strength. I mean, I know Cruz has an absolute cannon, but that throw he makes is impressive by even his standards. It's more prevalent in the Cubs vs Cards vid, where Soriano throws frozen ropes that he is generally incapable of ever throwing. Just my opinion on both areas, though.

Yeah, this was one thing that caught my eye too. Cruz has a cannon, but those were 2 lasers that he threw! If it isn't adjusted in the final version, I can definitely see turning that slider down some.

[Knight165]

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From an AI perspective, what exactly does baserunning ability influence?

It will influence how "smart" a baserunner is on the basepaths.
99 does not make him infallible though....nor does 0 make him constantly make mistakes...

M.K.
Knight165

[CMH]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Gameplay Video - Angels vs. Rangers

You can look at the baserunner box on the right, and they did exactly what you explained. That's pretty much my understanding too... maybe could have scored, but that may be a result (or non-result) of what you mentioned here:

edit: Just checked again to confirm I'm not going nuts. The runner on 2nd did not go halfway. He tagged up immediately.