2012 OSFM: World Champion St. Louis Cardinals

[ilstu24]

Messing around with google docs. Its filled in with what I haves done so far. Faces on all are needed as well as input on stances/motions.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...5dXE2Tmc#gid=4





Projected Lineup
vRH

SS Furcal
RF Beltran
LF Holliday
1B Berkman
3B Freese
CF Jay
C Molina
2B Descalsco

vs. L (Not all. I'm not anticipating a straight platoon at 2B)
SS Furcal
RF Beltran
LF Holliday
1B Berkman
3B Freese
C Molina
CF Jay
2B Greene

Bench on most days
C Cruz/Anderson. Matheny likes Anderson a lot, I'm giving him the edge
2B-OF Schumaker
SS-2B Greene
OF Chambers
3B Carpenter. Think he gets the last spot over 1B Hamilton. Keeps it warm for Craig who will be DL'd the first month.

Rotation
SP Carpenter
SP Wainwright
SP Garcia
SP Lohse
SP Westbrook (PLEASE SIGN OSWALT. WESTBROOK IS A BUM)

CP Motte
RP Salas
RP Rzcepczynski
RP Romero
RP Lynn
RP Boggs
RP McClellan/Sanchez

Kind of a messy picture in bullpen. One of McClellan/Salas/Lynn/Sanchez will start season in AAA. Also possibility someone like Boggs/McClellan are traded. So one Right hander will not be on club. They will carry 12 pitchers.







OK fellas, much like the other OSFM threads this is the place to discuss the Cardinals Full Minors. This is a very deep system, so expect to see a lot of B potential prospects.

The only real roster spots up for grabs is the last bench spot, the backup catcher spot and the guy (Rule V'er Komatsu or Adron Chambers) that gets a spot due to Craig likely beginning the season on the DL.

The bullpen is very much up in the air. The Cardinals are set from the left side (Scrabble and Romero). The right side is very much in question. Plenty of options, wouldn't surprise me if they made a trade in the spring.

Anyways, down to the good stuff. These are the CAPS under consideration for a spot on OSFM. Can only have 90 total, so several of these players won't make the cut.


Pitchers on 40 man * = Needs a CAP () = Estimated Potential

Boggs
Carpenter
Cleto
Dickson
Chuckie Fick* (B)
Sam Freeman* (C)
Garcia
Lohse
Lynn
McClellan
Motte
Adam Ottavino* (C)
Adam Reifer* (B)
Romero
Rzcepczynski
Salas
Sanchez
Wainwright
Westbrook

Catchers

Bryan Anderson* (C)
Cruz
Molina

Infielders

Carpenter
Zack Cox* (B)
Descalsco
Freese
Furcal
Greene
Hamilton
Kozma
Schumaker

Outfielders

Beltran
Berkman
Chambers
Craig
Holliday
Jay
Erik Komatsu* (C/D) Rule V Likely not gonna be CAP. Wont make team.
Robinson

So thats 39 players. 38 if no Komatsu, which is likely.

Notable NRI's already in game (Should be). Don't see any making the club.
Linebrink
K. Hill
Velez
A. Cora

[ilstu24]

Re: 2012 OSFM: World Champion St. Louis Cardinals

As far as catchers go, I have 10 under consideration for the final Cut
Yadier Molina
Tony Cruz
Bryan Anderson
Cody Stanley (B/C)
Audy Perez (C)
Robert Stock
Geoffrey Klein
Jesus Montero
Charles Cutler
Koyie Hill

Bold means should be in game already. In addition Stanly and Perez should be locks to be in. The rest are open for discussion.

1B
Lance Berkman
Mark Hamilton
Matt Adams (B)
Xavier Scruggs (C)
Steven Hill (C)

2B
Daniel Descalsco
Skip Schumaker
Kolten Wong (B)
Eugenio Velez
Alex Cora
Tyler Rahmatulla (C)
Starlin Rodriguez (C)
Brayvic Valera (B)
Garrett Wittels
Greg Garcia (C)

[ilstu24]

Re: 2012 OSFM: World Champion St. Louis Cardinals

Shortstops
Rafael Furcal
Tyler Greene
Pete Kozma
Ryan Jackson (B)
Kenny Peoples-Walls

Third-basemen
David Freese
Matt Carpenter
Zack Cox (B)
Jonathan Rodriguez (C)
Roberto de la Cruz (C)

[ilstu24]

Re: 2012 OSFM: World Champion St. Louis Cardinals

Outfielders
LF Matt Holliday
CF Jon Jay
RF Carlos Beltran
RF Allen Craig
CF Adron Chambers
RF Erik Komatsu (C/D)
RF/CF Oscar Taveras (A)
CF Charlie Tilson (B)
RF/LF Anthony Garcia (B)
CF Tommy Pham (C)
LF/OF Aaron Luna (C/D)
RF/CF Rainel Rosario (C)
LF/IF Jermaine Curtis (C)
CF C.J. McElroy (C)
RF/CF James Rapoport (D)
CF Nick Longmire (C)
LF Kyle Conley
OF Chris Swauger

[ilstu24]

Re: 2012 OSFM: World Champion St. Louis Cardinals

45 Position Players at this point.

Starters

Carpenter
Wainwright
Garcia
Lohse
Westbrook
Shelby Miller (A)
Carlos Martinez (A)
Tyrell Jenkins (B)
John Gast (B)
Trevor Rosenthal (B)
Cleto
Dickson
Joe Kelly (B)
Boone Whiting (C)
Seth Blair (C)
Deryk Hooker (B)
Michael Blazek
Nick Addition
Hector Hernandez
Tyler Lyons
David Kopp
Eric Fortunato
Anthony Ferrera
Scott Gorgen
Kevin Seigrist

Relievers

Motte
Sanchez
McClellan
Lynn
Salas
Boggs
Romero
Rzcepzynski
Sam Freeman (C)
Chuckie Fick (C)
Adam Ottavino (C)
Jordan Swagerty (B)
Pete Parise (D)
Adam Reifer (B)
Keith Butler (B)
Nick Greenwood (C)
Daniel Bibona (C)
Casey Mulligan (C)
Scott Bittle
Victor DeLeon
Justin Wright
Willy Paulino
Francisco Samuel
Victor Marte
Cory Rauschenberger
Chase Reid

[ilstu24]

Re: 2012 OSFM: World Champion St. Louis Cardinals

Have my initial projection for the roster. Bullpen and some bench spots are up for grabs. Lineup is pretty much set barring injuries. Will update if I get any more info on anything.

As far as Erik Komatsu goes, he was a Rule V pick from Washington, and I don't think he has a shot at making the team, so should I still create him? Or should I leave that to the guy thats doing the Nationals?

[CWSpalehoseCWS]

Re: 2012 OSFM: World Champion St. Louis Cardinals

Have my initial projection for the roster. Bullpen and some bench spots are up for grabs. Lineup is pretty much set barring injuries. Will update if I get any more info on anything.

As far as Erik Komatsu goes, he was a Rule V pick from Washington, and I don't think he has a shot at making the team, so should I still create him? Or should I leave that to the guy thats doing the Nationals?

I think you should. With Craig hurt and out for a while, doesn't he have a good chance to stick with the team?

[mizzourah2006]

Re: 2012 OSFM: World Champion St. Louis Cardinals

I think unless Komatsu completely blows it, or Chambers has an amazing ST it is likely Komatsu breaks with the big club at least until Craig is healthy. They will want to see what he's got for as long as they can.

[DanH35]

Re: 2012 OSFM: World Champion St. Louis Cardinals

ilstu24, I'm not sure if you have seen this or not, but Robert Stock is being converted to a pitcher.

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/05/cardinals-convert-former-second-round-pick-robert-stock-from-catcher-to-pitcher/

[BDKiiing]

Re: 2012 OSFM: World Champion St. Louis Cardinals

ilstu24, I'm not sure if you have seen this or not, but Robert Stock is being converted to a pitcher.

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...er-to-pitcher/

trying to replicate Motte?

[ilstu24]

Re: 2012 OSFM: World Champion St. Louis Cardinals

Just saw this. Leaning towards not including him then since he will most likely be starting over and probably be in rookie ball this year.


What does everyone think?

[DanH35]

Re: 2012 OSFM: World Champion St. Louis Cardinals

Just saw this. Leaning towards not including him then since he will most likely be starting over and probably be in rookie ball this year.


What does everyone think?

I think it's a good idea to not include him. He pitched in college, so you could probably find out what pitches he throws, but it would be difficult to assign ratings when he hasn't pitched in years.

[sydrogerdavid]

Re: 2012 OSFM: World Champion St. Louis Cardinals

I say include him as a last resort if you can't find any other guys to put in (which I doubt). It says he can throw in the upper 90s, that's always a plus.

[ilstu24]

Re: 2012 OSFM: World Champion St. Louis Cardinals

I guess the D potential I gave Stock last year was too high.

[marcus flemming]

Re: 2012 OSFM: World Champion St. Louis Cardinals

Hey, are you going to put in Kolten Wong? He should be the future at 2B. Looks like he tore up the minors last year and could potentially be on the team late this year/next year?