Tiger Woods 13: Country Clubs Online Feature Details, Demo Date Announced

[kickingguru]

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The benefit is the same concept of the Freemium games on Ipads... You will have people buying Coins with real money... The more connected means the more people may choose to buy... Make a little extra Coin (pardon the pun)... I love the concept as if i want to be patient and play my way through... I can... If I am impatient and have $50 bucks burning a hole in my pocket... Bang.. It is in my hands and I am not forced to miss out on features if I do not want to pay... This whole online concept may end up being one of the best online experiences in sports video games.... It is however EA and if any one can screw up a good idea... they can....

[kerosene31]

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One question, do you still have to buy the DLC packs and then earn coins to play? I can't believe they would allow you a way to not pay for DLC.

The online sounds interesting. It would be neat to have an OS country club to compete against instead of having to deal with the freaks who can shoot -30 anywhere.

Looking forward to the demo.

[kickingguru]

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Actually if you purchase the DLC... It would be unlimited play... So no worries there.....

[DivotMaker]

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One question, do you still have to buy the DLC packs and then earn coins to play? I can't believe they would allow you a way to not pay for DLC.

No. You can earn coins to get free play of DLC courses. However, the DLC courses for free are not enabled for offline career mode. According to EA, there were a number of issues with enabling the free DLC courses for play offline. I am going to buy all of the DLC courses so I do not run into any limitations playing online or offline. There also should be some discounts on the DLC courses for those who have their EA Sports Season Ticket.

[jbd345]

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No. You can earn coins to get free play of DLC courses. However, the DLC courses for free are not enabled for offline career mode. According to EA, there were a number of issues with enabling the free DLC courses for play offline. I am going to buy all of the DLC courses so I do not run into any limitations playing online or offline. There also should be some discounts on the DLC courses for those who have their EA Sports Season Ticket.

Wasn't that the whole point of season ticket, getting reduced prices on DLC?
I believe we should be able download the whole game the weekend for free before release, or has EA abandoned that?

[DivotMaker]

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Wasn't that the whole point of season ticket, getting reduced prices on DLC?
I believe we should be able download the whole game the weekend for free before release, or has EA abandoned that?

Among other things yes and the game will be available for DL 3 days prior to release. I was simply responding to the DLC question that was asked.

[stormjr]

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No. You can earn coins to get free play of DLC courses. However, the DLC courses for free are not enabled for offline career mode. According to EA, there were a number of issues with enabling the free DLC courses for play offline. I am going to buy all of the DLC courses so I do not run into any limitations playing online or offline. There also should be some discounts on the DLC courses for those who have their EA Sports Season Ticket.

I don't think this is entirely true, Divot. The way I read the Dev response to my question was that you cannot use a RENTED course in the offline career. However, once they are Gold Mastered they behave like normal DLC.

Here's the comment from the dev:

You have to be connected to purchase the rounds. You have to be connected to start playing a purchased round. The round consumes as soon as you start it, so you can lose connection after you begin playing and it is no big deal. You can still finish your round without any issue. If you quit your round for any reason, you have already consumed your round, so you won't get it back if you quit.

You can't use the rounds in career. Only Play Now, Live Tournaments, and H2H. There were too many complications with career. Mainly, if you started a tournament that was 4 rounds and you only had 1 round, you would be stuck until you made another purchase. So you can only use a DLC course in career if you have unlimited rounds to the course.

Once you have unlimited rounds, you are no longer required to be connected to use the course. The entitlement to the course is downloaded to your console and you have the same access to it that you had in the past with DLC courses.

[DivotMaker]

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Thanks storm, I remember reading that quote and could not find it. Forgot about the Gold mastery allowing users to use the course in offline CM as well. Thanks again for the clarification....

[rolltide1017]

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Can you have people from different consoles in the same Country Club? I don't see why they couldn't do this if you are not require to play head to head. I have friends who have a PS3 and I'm on Xbox, it would be fun if we could all be apart of the same Online Country Club.

[OnlookerDelay]

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Can you have people from different consoles in the same Country Club? I don't see why they couldn't do this if you are not require to play head to head. I have friends who have a PS3 and I'm on Xbox, it would be fun if we could all be apart of the same Online Country Club.

I'm sure this won't be possible. You access your Club's "clubhouse" via XBox Live for the 360 and PSN for the PS3. You also have Live Tournaments and even Head to Head play within your own clubhouse. There's no way you could have head to head play between an XBox 360 and a PS3 via the proprietary networks that serve them. I agree that it would be cool if they could do it! I still think it's going to be a blast as it stands.

[DivotMaker]

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Can you have people from different consoles in the same Country Club? I don't see why they couldn't do this if you are not require to play head to head. I have friends who have a PS3 and I'm on Xbox, it would be fun if we could all be apart of the same Online Country Club.

If the day ever comes where PS3 and 360 users are allowed to play against each other, then something like this would be possible. I don't see this happening anytime soon if ever, but if a company wanted to make this happen using Cloud-based services, and could navigate the EULA's for both Sony and MS, then anything is possible.....

[OnlookerDelay]

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Guys, I just wanted to inject a question into the thread here to get some opinions on what I see as an alarmingly low buzz about this year's Tiger Woods game. Here we are only a week away from the release of the demo, and less than a month from the release of the full game, yet I'm only seeing a trickle of discussion about it at every forum I frequent.

What makes this situation even harder to explain is that this year's Tiger is almost unarguably - on paper - the most progressive step in the history of the series. It's got:

1.) A tempo reliant swing control system which requires swing plane/path alteration to shape shots (scalable to all difficulties above Amateur), exponentially proportionally penal results for tracking errors in the overswing region.

2.) Kinect integration for the 360 version, which many of us are cautiously skeptical about, but it's still a bold stride that should at least help advance motion controls towards viability.

3.) Online Country Clubs is an answer to a number user requests in terms of Custom Live Tournaments, custom lobbies, more cohesive competitive options, and encouragement of communities.

4.) New presentation options in terms of both swing camera and cut-views. One dev has only made tangential references to this in the official forum, but it sounds like there's a lot there. We now that "True View" is definitely an option. I think True View is an expansion on what was called "First Person View" in the PS3 and to a less extent, Tiger 12's True View from the Wii version.

5.) The option to earn DLC courses via earning them via satisfying performance goals.

With all of the above in mind, why do you guys think this game is so low on the radar right now? My best guess is this game had such a track record of sameness over the last few years that both the established user base and potential buyers have been lulled into apathy.

[Zinger]

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With all of the above in mind, why do you guys think this game is so low on the radar right now? My best guess is this game had such a track record of sameness over the last few years that both the established user base and potential buyers have been lulled into apathy.

Yep, 'sameness' which amounts to mediocrity. I for one have little faith in the devs after giving us a sub-standard game for so many years. The game is so unpolished it's hard to know where to begin in describing what needs attention. It does sound as if they have been listening to the users more this year and there are reasons to be hopeful, but I would be truly amazed if the game knocks my socks off with its improvements. I still expect to find plenty of stuff which annoys me. If there is apathy around the devs have brought it upon themselves.

[OnlookerDelay]

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Yep, 'sameness' which amounts to mediocrity. I for one have little faith in the devs after giving us a sub-standard game for so many years. The game is so unpolished it's hard to know where to begin in describing what needs attention.

I've bought every Tiger game in this gen of consoles, starting with Tiger 06 on the XBox 360. The only title in the series which I thought made an expected advancement over the previous year's title was in Tiger 10, when they introduced Precision Putting and Live Tournaments. They didn't take the improvements made there and take them to the level they could have in Tiger 11 and 12, IMO. Their vision just seems to be inexplicably limited.

Having read Fred Parrow's blog on Total Swing Control, I know the biggest complaint I've made in this entire generation has at least had an attempt made to address. The swing interface just didn't require enough touch and intuition. Fred says that the gamer feels "invested" in the shot this year in his blog. That will cure a lot of what ailes the game for me if it proves to be the case.

I really appreciate your weighing in on this Zinger... good stuff!

[kerosene31]

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I think the game taking a step back last year hurt a little, although I am definitely looking forward to the demo. I went back and played some TW12 this weekend and remembered how much I missed 11. I could never get tournament difficulty without the putting meter. I could never get the feel down. I ended up dropping down to tour pro, which was ok, but there you are forced to use focus or your accuracy is horrible. I could just never find a difficulty I liked.

I am interested in the new swing. I haven't watched many videos but will of course try the demo. It could really make a great game. I guess I'm just in wait and see mode.

Online country clubs could be good, however I don't have many friends who play TW.