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**huskerwr38** · 03-13-2012, 01:10 PM

Re: NCAA Football 13 Features New Passing System, Enhanced Commentary and More

Originally posted by noplace

Read and react? Lol….Get ready for EA’s next glitchy feature….

Has EA ever implemented anything without it being broken? Its either overdone or under. I see this as feature they're going to mess up. Basic physics would solve alot of the psychic play, just basic foot planting, momentum and change of direction along with working attributes...

It would probably solve a lot of problems but I don't think it's key to solving the problem. 2k didn't have momentum and foot planting problems and they didn't have a RTP engine.

**Broncos86** · 03-13-2012, 01:27 PM

Re: NCAA Football 13 Features New Passing System, Enhanced Commentary and More

Originally posted by noplace

Read and react? Lol….Get ready for EA’s next glitchy feature….

Has EA ever implemented anything without it being broken? Its either overdone or under. I see this as feature they're going to mess up. Basic physics would solve alot of the psychic play, just basic foot planting, momentum and change of direction along with working attributes...

Community: "Fix defensive reactions!"
EA: "Ok"
Community: "lol, w/e."

Lots of features have bugs during iteration. That's true for many games, not just sports games. I think the tackling in NCAA/Madden 12 has been a positive addition.

**shanew21** · 03-13-2012, 01:32 PM

Re: NCAA Football 13 Features New Passing System, Enhanced Commentary and More

Originally posted by chen_sc

last year the dev team said that 'college gameday' will be somehow integrated in ncaa 13, didn't they?

No. "experience the pageantry of gameday saturday"

**southernbelle** · 03-13-2012, 01:55 PM

they should be banned from using the word pageantry... so sick of hearing them use that... its not a parade

**jmik58** · 03-13-2012, 02:13 PM

I've been asking for a read and react defensive AI system and finally.... finally... they're giving a shot. Unfortunately, the offensive players need to have keys that they react to as well...not just the defense.

I'm cautiously skeptical as to how they will implement this, but at least they've finally acknowledged that the gameplay needed to improve by changing the programming logic for the players.

On a side note, I wonder if the passing game changes are related to similar programming logic adjustments on the offensive side. One can only hope.

**jmik58** · 03-13-2012, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by noplace

Read and react? Lol….Get ready for EA’s next glitchy feature….

Has EA ever implemented anything without it being broken? Its either overdone or under. I see this as feature they're going to mess up. Basic physics would solve alot of the psychic play, just basic foot planting, momentum and change of direction along with working attributes...

Actually foot planting, momentum, etc have absolutely ZERO to do with the psychic defenses. The reason people like myself have been calling for a change to the programming logic for years is because a read-and-react defensive system would be how to change the psychic gameplay. As it is now, a QB throws the ball (A) and the AI decides it's going to knock it down or get the INT (C), so the game creates some ridiculous animation to fill in the middle (B). This is why you get psychic DBs and Superman Linebackers.

A read and react programming logic setup gives all players a key to react to. They may react quicker or slower, incorrectly, etc. They may also execute their reaction poorly. Either way, this makes the plays dynamic and unpredictable, AND more heavily weighted on each individual players' abilities and ratings within the game.

Now can EA deliver it with that kind of execution? We'll have to wait and see.

**Cardot** · 03-13-2012, 02:24 PM

Re: NCAA Football 13 Features New Passing System, Enhanced Commentary and More

Like many here, I am cautiously optimistic. But I do like what I am hearing.

Sights and sounds: Seems like I am in the minority, but I love the run outs. I watch them everytime. I played an entire season with Colorado just because of the Buffalo. The more the better for me.

New Passing: This could be fantastic. But I wan't to see it to believe it. Over the years of sports gaming, I have often been disappointed with these types of claims, and how they were executed. But I am certainly intrigued.

In game hilights could be another big winner for the offline franchise crowd like myself. Hopefully they will have a mechanism to figure out what games I care about. If I am a top SEC team, I probably don't want my game interrupted with an update from the Sunbelt. However if I am a Sun Belt team battling for a top spot and a Bowl bid, I probably DO care about another Sun Belt battle......but won't really care much about what is going on in the MAC.

**lildave225** · 03-13-2012, 02:55 PM

Originally posted by Cardot

Like many here, I am cautiously optimistic. But I do like what I am hearing.

Sights and sounds: Seems like I am in the minority, but I love the run outs. I watch them everytime. I played an entire season with Colorado just because of the Buffalo. The more the better for me.

New Passing: This could be fantastic. But I wan't to see it to believe it. Over the years of sports gaming, I have often been disappointed with these types of claims, and how they were executed. But I am certainly intrigued.

In game hilights could be another big winner for the offline franchise crowd like myself. Hopefully they will have a mechanism to figure out what games I care about. If I am a top SEC team, I probably don't want my game interrupted with an update from the Sunbelt. However if I am a Sun Belt team battling for a top spot and a Bowl bid, I probably DO care about another Sun Belt battle......but won't really care much about what is going on in the MAC.

I wonder who will be the new studio analyst.
It will be refreshing to hear a new voice

**jjsmitty34** · 03-13-2012, 02:57 PM

Let's ask ourselves "What will be broken on launch?" I really hope they fixed the glaring problems with 2012 first before just adding "Fluff to Fluff"

**michapop9** · 03-13-2012, 03:10 PM

gameplay videos and more gameplay videos, thatll be the validation, please no more useless interviews with socially awkward, way overexcited devs who dont look like they know a damn thing about football and just got done smoking a joint and then yell M-I-Z-Z-0-U! Those just kill my confidence in these people

**gogators** · 03-13-2012, 03:24 PM

Re: NCAA Football 13 Features New Passing System, Enhanced Commentary and More

Originally posted by michapop9

gameplay videos and more gameplay videos, thatll be the validation, please no more useless interviews with socially awkward, way overexcited devs who dont look like they know a damn thing about football and just got done smoking a joint and then yell M-I-Z-Z-0-U! Those just kill my confidence in these people

Agreed. Give us substance and a reason to feel better about the game. This should be year of the consumer (every year should be) after the junk they've put out this gen.

**Kid FSU** · 03-13-2012, 04:06 PM

Re: NCAA Football 13 Features New Passing System, Enhanced Commentary and More

Originally posted by hurricanefootball4

Would prefer 85 man rosters over this heisman mode business...

Why not both?

**K0ZZ** · 03-13-2012, 04:11 PM

Re: NCAA Football 13 Features New Passing System, Enhanced Commentary and More

Cautiously optimistic is the best way to approach this.

The football franchises have been getting better but as I said before, a lot needs to be fixed.

Coaches need more ratings than just prestige, HC should have some say over OC/DC (can tie into job security / prestige) such as picking a specific assistant or giving a choice to your AD such as similar playbooks, philosophies, ratings, etc and have that factor into the CPU opinion. Hiring logic needs to be fixed as does progression rate of coaches.

Hopefully RG3 is a metaphor for the resurgence of the NCAA franchise, as he was the resurgence of the Baylor Bears.

I'll say it again though, no mention of a physics system is disappointed but it's a feature I'd expect to see as a selling point to Madden, than the following year be brought out for NCAA.

**roadman** · 03-13-2012, 04:22 PM

Re: NCAA Football 13 Features New Passing System, Enhanced Commentary and More

Originally posted by chicagopax

I'll say it again though, no mention of a physics system is disappointed but it's a feature I'd expect to see as a selling point to Madden, than the following year be brought out for NCAA.

I wouldn't get your hopes up this year for physics in Madden. At E3 last year, someone from the Madden team did an interview and said they know physics is a hot topic, but it would probably be something that is addressed in the near future.

**K0ZZ** · 03-13-2012, 04:24 PM

Re: NCAA Football 13 Features New Passing System, Enhanced Commentary and More

The only reason I have any hopes for physics is because of Fifa and NHL having physics play to an extent in the engine. My hopes aren't too high because Tiburon has been playing status quo rather than being innovators. They are playing catch up to other franchises as far as I'm concerned. (Across other sports, obviously.)

The football games aren't horrible, but not where they should be in 2012/13