Does it matter how long you hold X with classic pitching?

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  • Kiboshed
    Rookie
    • Jan 2008
    • 35

    #1

    Does it matter how long you hold X with classic pitching?

    Does it affect accuracy if held too short or too long?

    What bout speed if held too short or too long?

    I know if held too long there's a vibration but I don't know what that means.

    Can anyone confirm?
  • nemesis04
    RIP Ty My Buddy
    • Feb 2004
    • 13530

    #2
    Re: Does it matter how long you hold X with classic pitching?

    Originally posted by Kiboshed
    Does it affect accuracy if held too short or too long?

    What bout speed if held too short or too long?

    I know if held too long there's a vibration but I don't know what that means.

    Can anyone confirm?
    The vibration means max effort you are putting behind the pitch. So you can have varying degrees of effort applied to the pitch giving you more or less movement depending on the pitch.
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    • Joey
      Pr*
      • Mar 2004
      • 1836

      #3
      Re: Does it matter how long you hold X with classic pitching?

      I believe they call the vibration max effort. I know a lot of people have their own ideas about it, but I've always used it and found the best results for me is when I hold the button until the top of the leg kick or beginning of stride (if no leg kick). Try it and see what you think.

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      • nomo17k
        Permanently Banned
        • Feb 2011
        • 5735

        #4
        Re: Does it matter how long you hold X with classic pitching?

        It was confirmed by Ramone@SCEA that the vibration means the max effort (also see Brian@SCEA's most recent thread on Research Poll).

        You'll get more movement and/or velocity but will lose a bit of command with the max effort I believe. I think there was a brief description in the in-game strategy guide (Pitching section) as well.
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        • chuckm1961
          MVP
          • Mar 2005
          • 1429

          #5
          Re: Does it matter how long you hold X with classic pitching?

          Also, keep in mind, a pitcher throwing from the Stretch will usually release much quicker than from Windup.

          So you have less time to work with when pitching from Stretch.

          I love Classic Pitching!!
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          • jtott
            Pro
            • Feb 2009
            • 626

            #6
            Re: Does it matter how long you hold X with classic pitching?

            I too play with classic pitching... have been for years. The longer you hold "x" down, you do get more "umph" behnd the pitch , but you lose accuracy with it... example : lets say you're throwing a fastball on the corner, down and outside.. holding the x button down too long could cause that pitch to go way outside , up and out of the zone, or if your lucky .. right where you wanted it... but the latter rarely happens.

            Now lets say you are throwing a curveball ... holding down the x button too long usually puts that ball in the dirt... or leaves it hanging .... and it gets crushed!

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            • chuckm1961
              MVP
              • Mar 2005
              • 1429

              #7
              Re: Does it matter how long you hold X with classic pitching?

              Originally posted by jtott
              I too play with classic pitching... have been for years. The longer you hold "x" down, you do get more "umph" behnd the pitch , but you lose accuracy with it... example : lets say you're throwing a fastball on the corner, down and outside.. holding the x button down too long could cause that pitch to go way outside , up and out of the zone, or if your lucky .. right where you wanted it... but the latter rarely happens.

              Now lets say you are throwing a curveball ... holding down the x button too long usually puts that ball in the dirt... or leaves it hanging .... and it gets crushed!
              But if the longer button press "works," your fastball will be faster and move better. Your curve will have more bite.

              It's a risk-benefit game .... the longer you hold the button the riskier territory you are in. Just like real life, when you throw harder, good or bad things can happen.

              And the results are dictated more by player ratings, and less by my ability to push buttons in time with watching stuff. A four-year-old can do that.

              I love Classic Pitching!
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              • Cavicchi
                MVP
                • Mar 2004
                • 2841

                #8
                Re: Does it matter how long you hold X with classic pitching?

                I use classic pitching and this thread may help me pitch better. I find my control better with certain pitchers, the ones with a high kick. Maybe I should make all my pitchers have the same delivery

                Seriously, this thread is really great information for those of us needing help with Classic pitching. Thanks to all who contributed

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                • jenglund
                  Rookie
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 229

                  #9
                  Re: Does it matter how long you hold X with classic pitching?

                  Good stuff...I decided to try classic for the first time this year, and must admit, it's been a little challenging. I think I've been holding the button too long most of the time, as guys like Jared Weaver can even be pretty wild sometimes. I'll aim for a low and away and the pitch will sail way high. Is that just the fluctuation in accuracy from holding the button down too long? Or do you chalk that up to, "Well, sometimes the pitcher just badly misses his spot"?

                  So it's frustrating in some ways, but I'm also walking more batters than I ever have before, so that's been interesting. I think I'll stick with it...just got to get used to the variability. I use timing hitting, so classic pitching makes sense for me.

                  I'm not even a huge baseball fan, but I buy this game every year because IMO it's the best sports game out there.
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                  • BleacherCreature
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 3160

                    #10
                    Re: Does it matter how long you hold X with classic pitching?

                    Is the same thing true for pulse pitching?

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                    • nemesis04
                      RIP Ty My Buddy
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 13530

                      #11
                      Re: Does it matter how long you hold X with classic pitching?

                      Originally posted by BleacherCreature
                      Is the same thing true for pulse pitching?
                      No, currently there is no built in option to control the amount of effort behind a pitch. Hopefully it gets added in next years installment of the Show.
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                      • chuckm1961
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 1429

                        #12
                        Re: Does it matter how long you hold X with classic pitching?

                        Originally posted by jenglund
                        Is that just the fluctuation in accuracy from holding the button down too long? Or do you chalk that up to, "Well, sometimes the pitcher just badly misses his spot"?
                        The second one.

                        Do NOT get obsessed with the idea that your button presses have 100% control over the pitch location. I am 100% sure they do NOT.

                        That's the fun of Classic Pitching. Sometimes the guy just gets wild. Pay attention to your Pitch Confidence meters: do not expect to throw low-confidence pitches with accuracy most of the time.

                        ....

                        On another but related note, I think one reason people complain about relief pitchers getting bombed is because they are not adjusting their button-press-timing to account for pitching from the stretch, versus a full wind-up.
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                        • DJ
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 17756

                          #13
                          Re: Does it matter how long you hold X with classic pitching?

                          How do you determine max effort on the Vita?
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                          • nomo17k
                            Permanently Banned
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 5735

                            #14
                            Re: Does it matter how long you hold X with classic pitching?

                            Originally posted by DJ
                            How do you determine max effort on the Vita?
                            Oh I remember I had the same question... since there's no rumble feedback.

                            I assume it's about one second, from the interface descriptions that I remember reading from all over the place...

                            I hope that's right.
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                            • DJ
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 17756

                              #15
                              Re: Does it matter how long you hold X with classic pitching?

                              Originally posted by nomo17k
                              Oh I remember I had the same question... since there's no rumble feedback.

                              I assume it's about one second, from the interface descriptions that I remember reading from all over the place...

                              I hope that's right.
                              I hope so, since that's pretty much what I've been doing. I've also tried the old-school method of tapping the X button during the windup, but the results haven't been very good.
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