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  • nonnel
    Rookie
    • Sep 2009
    • 322

    #16
    Re: 50 game sample size - Hitting the pitcher

    Wish I would have kept track how many times I was still thrown out, but I assure you that % is quite high as well. Feels like pretty much every time, which just makes it more frustrating.

    Love the game... but this annoys me beyond belief.

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    • tonadom
      Banned
      • Mar 2012
      • 467

      #17
      Re: 50 game sample size - Hitting the pitcher

      I play with the timing slider 2 clicks to the left, so that probably has an effect on it because I don't see it much. I can't remember the last time I've seen it.

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      • bcruise
        Hall Of Fame
        • Mar 2004
        • 23293

        #18
        Re: 50 game sample size - Hitting the pitcher

        Have to say it's nice to see a claim like this backed up by actual statistics (50 games isn't a huge sample size, but it's at least enough to start noticing trends like this). Makes it so much easier to discuss these things without all the hyperbole flying around.

        Agree with Nomo that a user timing slider adjustment will probably help here. For a less artificial fix, you might also consider turning the pitch speed up as it should result in your timing being perfect a bit less.

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        • MikeFlu
          Rookie
          • Mar 2012
          • 93

          #19
          Re: 50 game sample size - Hitting the pitcher

          Originally posted by bcruise
          Agree with Nomo that a user timing slider adjustment will probably help here. For a less artificial fix, you might also consider turning the pitch speed up as it should result in your timing being perfect a bit less.
          This is a good idea, but it still doesn't take away the fact that when it does happen there is no chance of an injury and that more often than not the runner is thrown out. Personally, I think it's a very small issue with a great game, but it is a game that thrives on realism and getting hit in the face with a 100+ mph line drive and picking up the ball and throwing a perfect strike to first is just not realistic.
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          • nomo17k
            Permanently Banned
            • Feb 2011
            • 5740

            #20
            Re: 50 game sample size - Hitting the pitcher

            Originally posted by MikeFlu
            This is a good idea, but it still doesn't take away the fact that when it does happen there is no chance of an injury and that more often than not the runner is thrown out. Personally, I think it's a very small issue with a great game, but it is a game that thrives on realism and getting hit in the face with a 100+ mph line drive and picking up the ball and throwing a perfect strike to first is just not realistic.
            We are just trying to come up with some solution given the limitations, so those are somewhat different issues though. For example, you could presumably also lower Fielder Reaction so the pitcher won't field some of those... (but anything you do may have (unwanted) side effects as well.)

            In general, something like injuries in the game are not tied very well to what actually happen on the field, not just those batted balls hitting pitchers. But that should be a different topic imo.
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            • dce21b
              Banned
              • Dec 2008
              • 67

              #21
              1. You shouldn't be punished for hitting the ball perfectly.

              2. The pitch fielding and reaction attributes should be turned down so he can't catch lasers fly past him. Maybe thats why the on post said he barely sees it as an rtts pitcher.

              3. I think in previous years pitcher injuries were much more common and this was even online.... I remember losing pitchers from throwing to hard with them... Not so much for getting hit with balls. At the very least the should hit the ground if drilled with a ball. As of now they stand on the mound with their hands on their hips cape blowing in the wind, " I am the man off steel, ha ha ha infidel!"

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              • LastActionHero
                MVP
                • Feb 2009
                • 2453

                #22
                If the pitchers got injured most of the time people would lose their mind about losing their starters everytime it happens. I think they should just tweak the ability of the pitcher snagging the ball or constantly reflecting of him.
                "When it's all set and done, reality is the best innovation."

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                • Redacted01
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 10344

                  #23
                  Re: 50 game sample size - Hitting the pitcher

                  For those hitting them right at the pitcher, have you tried using the RS to lift balls up more. Maybe if you get more line drives over the pitcher's and mound, you'll see a reduction in this. That way, you still get your perfect timing, but you get a legit single out of it.

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                  • MikeFlu
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 93

                    #24
                    Re: 50 game sample size - Hitting the pitcher

                    Originally posted by dce21b
                    1. You shouldn't be punished for hitting the ball perfectly.
                    Sometimes you hit the ball perfectly and it goes right to someone. That's just the way it is. It's not being punished, it's blind luck sometimes.
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                    • dce21b
                      Banned
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 67

                      #25
                      For online play they could make injury less likely but definitely the pitcher should go down.

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                      • truckie16
                        Pro
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 597

                        #26
                        Fot those suggesting tuning the fielder reaction. It's not like the pitcher is catching the ball. It hits him in the leg, arm, hip, head you name it and then either he scopes it up to throw you out or it goes right to one of the other infielders.

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                        • pistolpete
                          MVP
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 1819

                          #27
                          Re: 50 game sample size - Hitting the pitcher

                          I guess "so real, it's unreal" is at least half true.

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                          • Therion7
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 376

                            #28
                            Re: 50 game sample size - Hitting the pitcher

                            Originally posted by MikeFlu
                            Sometimes you hit the ball perfectly and it goes right to someone. That's just the way it is. It's not being punished, it's blind luck sometimes.
                            Yeah, but when it's a baseman or SS who snags a solid line drive by sticking his glove instinctively in the air it still looks natural; there's a believable time to react. I put those down to luck.

                            But more often than it should, from my experience so far, a pitch smacked back with authority towards the pitcher results in some almost superhuman reactions or you hit him a sore one and he still gets the easy out at first.

                            I wouldn't want to alter my reaction slider from one notch below default as I like how everyone else goes about their fielding business.

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                            • redsfan4life
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 2753

                              #29
                              Re: 50 game sample size - Hitting the pitcher

                              I just hit a 98 MPH fastball right off Ubaldo Jimenez' temple. He went down to a knee, shook his head a few times and continued throwing gas. SMH. My biggest gripe with the game is this.
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                              • spit_bubble
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2004
                                • 3292

                                #30
                                Re: 50 game sample size - Hitting the pitcher

                                Originally posted by nonnel
                                I can't be the only one experiencing this so often. Every game, I seemed to be hitting the ball hard at the pitcher and having it deflect off him... so I decided to keep track over 50 games, how often if happened.


                                50 games. 63 deflections...
                                The real question is... In those 50 games... How many high chop foul balls behind home plate did you see?

                                Actually I think the pitcher deflections are better this year. Last year every pitcher turned into Martin Brodeur on hits up the middle. This year they are merely Nikolai Khabibulin.
                                All ties severed...

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