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  • dkrause1971
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    • Aug 2005
    • 5176

    #1

    MBMavs20 2012 Pitch Edits Spreadsheet

    This is a spreadsheet created by MBMavs20 with pitch edits for MLB the show 12. If you see any changes needed. Just post them below.



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  • MBMavs20
    Pro
    • Oct 2002
    • 939

    #2
    Re: MBMavs20 2012 Pitch Edits Spreadsheet

    Thanks to dkrause1971 for posting the pitch edits.

    I hope everyone finds them useful. Once the season starts, I will be able to add players called up from the minors or the foreign players new this year. Maybe look to update in May so I can have a month of pitches to draw from.
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6F...NqUUPnStADmhnA

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    • ilstu24
      MVP
      • Jan 2008
      • 1228

      #3
      Re: MBMavs20 2012 Pitch Edits Spreadsheet

      These look good. How do you go about deciphering whether a FB is a 4-seam, 2-seam or Running?
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      • OSfan093
        Rookie
        • Mar 2011
        • 184

        #4
        Re: MBMavs20 2012 Pitch Edits Spreadsheet

        Originally posted by ilstu24
        These look good. How do you go about deciphering whether a FB is a 4-seam, 2-seam or Running?
        i just looked through a few and from what i've seen they look spot on...I'm wondering the same thing, and also what did you use to come up with these ratings?

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        • td7
          Rookie
          • Apr 2007
          • 487

          #5
          Re: MBMavs20 2012 Pitch Edits Spreadsheet

          Originally posted by dkrause1971
          This is a spreadsheet created by MBMavs20 with pitch edits for MLB the show 12. If you see any changes needed. Just post them below.



          Thanks
          Keeps giving me a error message when I try to download?
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          • The Kid 24
            It's Show Time!
            • Jan 2007
            • 14768

            #6
            Re: MBMavs20 2012 Pitch Edits Spreadsheet

            Originally posted by MBMavs20
            Thanks to dkrause1971 for posting the pitch edits.

            I hope everyone finds them useful. Once the season starts, I will be able to add players called up from the minors or the foreign players new this year. Maybe look to update in May so I can have a month of pitches to draw from.
            Very nice bro!! What website did you use to gather the pitch types?

            One other thing... Is the number in the middle the pitchers control rating? For example... Greinke's curveball is 49/70/90... If that's the case then every pitcher has a REALLY good control rating for their pitches then.
            Last edited by The Kid 24; 03-28-2012, 08:31 AM.
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            • Cavicchi
              MVP
              • Mar 2004
              • 2841

              #7
              Re: MBMavs20 2012 Pitch Edits Spreadsheet

              Originally posted by MBMavs20
              Thanks to dkrause1971 for posting the pitch edits.

              I hope everyone finds them useful. Once the season starts, I will be able to add players called up from the minors or the foreign players new this year. Maybe look to update in May so I can have a month of pitches to draw from.
              Thanks for doing this, much appreciated.

              I looked at Roy Halladay and see you gave him a splitter. I read elsewhere you used texasleaguers for the pitch edits, but that site doesn't have a splitter for Halladay, just fastball, 2-seam fastball along with cutter, curve and change-up. Why did you give him a splitter?

              Clayton Kershaw has a circle change, not change-up. If you need proof I can give it to you straight from Kershaw's mouth via a video interview, or you can just look at the horizontal movement--it's over a plus 6.
              Last edited by Cavicchi; 03-28-2012, 09:02 AM.

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              • td7
                Rookie
                • Apr 2007
                • 487

                #8
                Re: MBMavs20 2012 Pitch Edits Spreadsheet

                Keeps telling me invalid or error when trying to save or open it? Any suggestions?
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                • Cavicchi
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 2841

                  #9
                  Re: MBMavs20 2012 Pitch Edits Spreadsheet

                  Originally posted by td7
                  Keeps telling me invalid or error when trying to save or open it? Any suggestions?
                  Just download it/save it to WinRAR or other such utility and open it from there.

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                  • MBMavs20
                    Pro
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 939

                    #10
                    Re: MBMavs20 2012 Pitch Edits Spreadsheet

                    Originally posted by OSfan093
                    i just looked through a few and from what i've seen they look spot on...I'm wondering the same thing, and also what did you use to come up with these ratings?
                    For control, I looked at their percentage of strikes and foul balls. My control ratings might seem a bit high so I figured people could just adjust the BB/9 rating. I think that would effect the control more so of a pitcher. I know ehen I am playing and have a pitcher with a bad control rating I can never throw a strike. Besides, I feel the BB/9 rating is more important when you sim.

                    Originally posted by The Kid 24
                    Very nice bro!! What website did you use to gather the pitch types?

                    I mostly used texasleaguer.com pitch F/X. If I wasn't sure about a certain pitch, I checked Fangraphs and Brooksbaseball.net.

                    One other thing... Is the number in the middle the pitchers control rating? For example... Greinke's curveball is 49/70/90... If that's the case then every pitcher has a REALLY good control rating for their pitches then.
                    Yes, the number in the middle is control. They might seem a bit high but everyone can lower them if they like. I don't mean for my edits to be the bible. Everyone has their own preference.

                    Originally posted by Cavicchi
                    Thanks for doing this, much appreciated.

                    I looked at Roy Halladay and see you gave him a splitter. I read elsewhere you used texasleaguers for the pitch edits, but that site doesn't have a splitter for Halladay, just fastball, 2-seam fastball along with cutter, curve and change-up. Why did you give him a splitter?

                    Clayton Kershaw has a circle change, not change-up. If you need proof I can give it to you straight from Kershaw's mouth via a video interview, or you can just look at the horizontal movement--it's over a plus 6.
                    I read in a few places, one of them was 60ft6in that Halladay switched from a change up to a splitter in 2010. He uses the Splitter as a change up according to the scouting report.

                    Thanks for the head-ups on Kershaw. I can change that in my update when I do one. If you notice anything else I missed let me know.
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                    • MBMavs20
                      Pro
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 939

                      #11
                      Re: MBMavs20 2012 Pitch Edits Spreadsheet

                      Originally posted by ilstu24
                      These look good. How do you go about deciphering whether a FB is a 4-seam, 2-seam or Running?
                      The site I used labels whether a pitch is a 4 seamer or a 2 seamer. I gave a pitcher a running fastball if his 4 seamer had a lot over horizontal movement. Anything over 6 I gave a running fastball.
                      https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6F...NqUUPnStADmhnA

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                      • The Kid 24
                        It's Show Time!
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 14768

                        #12
                        Re: MBMavs20 2012 Pitch Edits Spreadsheet

                        Originally posted by MBMavs20
                        Yes, the number in the middle is control. They might seem a bit high but everyone can lower them if they like. I don't mean for my edits to be the bible. Everyone has their own preference.
                        Don't take this the wrong way bro...

                        But if your going to implement all these pitch edits into the OSFM roster when its released, I would recommend not to include the adding of foul ball % into the control rating #'s... Because I don't think everyone will want pitchers who can throw any pitch to any spot they want because the pitchers have such high control ratings... Just IMO

                        Don't get me wrong, I'm REALLY happy you did all this work getting correct pitches for pitchers.
                        Last edited by The Kid 24; 03-28-2012, 10:32 AM.
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                        • MBMavs20
                          Pro
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 939

                          #13
                          Re: MBMavs20 2012 Pitch Edits Spreadsheet

                          Originally posted by The Kid 24
                          Don't take this the wrong way bro...

                          But if your going to implement all these pitch edits into the OSFM roster when its released, I would recommend not to include the adding of foul ball % into the control rating #'s... Because I don't think everyone will want pitchers who can throw any pitch to any spot they want because the pitchers have such high control ratings... Just IMO

                          Don't get me wrong, I'm REALLY happy you did all this work getting correct pitches for pitchers.
                          No problem man. :-)

                          If someone can suggest or come up with a better way to figure out the control rating I am all ears. Last year, I used just the strike percentage of the pitch but they were usually in the 50's-60's, even for the good pitchers.

                          Maybe some of the developers from the game can give us an idea how they figure out the control rating.
                          https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6F...NqUUPnStADmhnA

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                          • Scott
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                            • Jul 2002
                            • 20032

                            #14
                            Re: MBMavs20 2012 Pitch Edits Spreadsheet

                            Just so you know, Stetter & Biemel have been released from the Rangers.
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                            • OSfan093
                              Rookie
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 184

                              #15
                              Re: MBMavs20 2012 Pitch Edits Spreadsheet

                              great edits, i noticed the control thing too, i'm just going to lower every control rating by like 10 then if its a 4th or 5th pitch i'll lower it by 15....anyway my question is Joel Hanrahan has a movement of
                              "1940" on the spreadsheet. obviously this is a typo, what is it supposed to be?

                              but overall man, really good job i have trouble arguing with any of these ratings

                              ALSO - it says Jeff Locke's 2sfb speed is 83 mph(number on left is speed right?) and his running fastball is like 90. i'm pretty sure he only pitched a few games last year, and thats probably why, but that still doesn't make sense. is this an error or did he really throw his 2 seamer 83 in the couple games he played? or is this some type of breaking pitch that is being represented with a 2sfb?

                              EDIT - I'm seeing the same pitch with Tony Watson too, what is this pitch?
                              Last edited by OSfan093; 03-28-2012, 12:18 PM.

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