OS Trifecta Edit Slider Set

[vtcrb]

A few Tweaks from the Community Slider Set. Tomba was a MAJOR help. These work best with the OS Trifecta Edit on All-Star level or above. These MAY NOT work as well with OTHER rosters. But I suggest trying them. You should notice Major Ball Movement with these combined with the Rosters.

2k Share File: OS Trifecta Roster Set

Real Player FG%
Real Player FT%
Game Speed 40- User Preference
Player Speed 20- User Preference(Only in Association and Season)
Defensive Assist Strength 75- User Preference(Under Controller Settings)
Clutch Factor- ON
Level(s) of play- All Star, Superstar, Hall of Fame
9-10 Minute Quarters for Realistic Stats.

USER vs CPU Sliders

Inside Shot 48/48
Close Shot 48/48
Mid Range 49/49
3pt Shot 50/50
Layup Success 60/60
Dunk Success 60/60
Dunk in Traffic 55/55
Pass Accuracy 75/75
Alley Oop Success 75/75
Contact Shot Success 40/40

Driving Contact Shot 60/60
Inside Contact Shot 60/60
Help Defense 100/100
Steal Success 35/35

Quickness 0/0
Vertical 0/0
Strength 40/50
Stamina 70/70
Durability 70/70
Hustle 60/25
Ball Handling 30/30
Hands 40/40
Dunking Ability 70/70
On Ball D 75/75
Stealing 50/50
Blocking 70/70
OFF Awareness 90/90
DEF Awareness 85/85
OFF Rebounding 65/50
DEF Rebounding 40/25
Clutch Factor 0/0
Consistency 40/40
Fatigue Rate 60/60
Injury Frequency 45/45
Injury Severity 40/40

Take Inside Shot 70/70
Take Close Shot 70/70
Take Mid Range Shot 80/80
Take 3Pt Shot 50/50
Attack the Basket 95/95
Look for Post Players 95/95
Throw Alley Oops 85/85
Attempt Dunks 70/70
Attempt Putbacks 95/95
Play Passing Lanes 50/50
Go for On-Ball Steals 60/60
Contest Shots 65/65
Backdoor Cuts 70/70

Over the Back Foul 70/70
Charging Foul 80/80
Blocking Foul 85/85
Reaching Foul 90/90
Shooting Foul 90/90
Loose Ball Foul 70/70

[nunogomes]

Re: OS Trifecta Edit Slider Set

Thanks VTCRB!

I´ll try this sliders and the new trifecta rosters tonight!

Congrats to all involved!

[Tarus]

Re: OS Trifecta Edit Slider Set

Where is the player speed option?

[Tarus]

Re: OS Trifecta Edit Slider Set

With player speed down it still 74 - 72 half.

[vtcrb]

Re: OS Trifecta Edit Slider Set

With player speed down it still 74 - 72 half.

Player Speed is on the Screen where you choose the Jerseys. It is ONLY available in Season and Association Modes.

I play on 9 minute quarters. I should have mentioned that in the OP. I will update it.

[mngophers21]

Re: OS Trifecta Edit Slider Set

I was going to post this in the actual trifecta thread, but I will post it here instead because it's a slider issue.

With your sliders on All-star, I find myself shooting a little over 50%. After playing more games since I posted in the other thread, I realized this was okay with me because the CPU always ends up taking 15-20 more shots than I do (is there a way to make the shot totals more even or something?) but they range between I don't know if it's just because they can force so many turnovers or if they get so many offensive rebounds or what. But that was until last night.

I played against the Raptors and lost by 12. To test a theory (which somewhat worked) I turned the CPU on ball defense down to 0. I ended up shooting 57% on 60 shots I believe, and the CPU shot 54%. Aside from the insane percentage, the cpu defense was actually really nice. No sliding/glitching and I was actually able to work the ball around how I wanted.

Now once I realized that the percentages were so high (beginning of 4th quarter) I lowered all of the shot ratings for both myself and the cpu by 2 each. The cpu was unaffected whatsoever, but I only made a handful of shots the rest of the game, and it ended up costing me the huge lead I had built. So I guess here's my questions:

- How to I maintain realistic shooting percentages for both teams without the CPU taking 15-20 more shots than me every game? If they take that many more shots than me every game but we have around the same percentages, I will more than likely lose every single game no matter how good I play.

- With the on ball defense at 75, the cpu defense is almost too good in my opinion. They stick to their man like glue (my cpu teammates), remain unaffected by picks or iso moves, etc. What would be a good value to lower this to test?

- I think I countered the CPU getting too many steals by lowering steals for CPU by 10, but I still cannot get any besides the 1-2 scripted ones that are automatically given.

Hopefully I made sense lol. I will play another game right now (returning CPU on ball to 75 and raising the shot sliders to their base, will keep steals down) and post my stats

[mngophers21]

Re: OS Trifecta Edit Slider Set

Just finished my game against the Hawks. Here is the after game screen:



Notice the extremely high shooting percentages, especially the CPU. What do you suggest I change? Simply dropping the shooting sliders down 2-3 for CPU and 1-2 for me?

Also, look at the CPU steals/my turnovers. 16 turnovers, 14 considered a "steal". I don't know how to fix this. Half of them are the computer picking off a pass they shouldn't, the other half are simple on ball steals. None of the 5 steals the Hawks gave up were made by me, all by my cpu players who love to get called for reaching in at least 8 times a game.

Other than the high shooting percentages and the computer taking 17 more shots than me once again plus the extreme occurring of steals, I think it was an okay game. I deserved to lose to the Hawks who are the 5th seed I believe (2 games left until playoffs) and I simply didn't play an overall good game in my opinion.

I also recorded a few videos of me getting screwed over/cpu getting an advantage which I will try and upload later

[Scruffychicken]

Re: OS Trifecta Edit Slider Set

Just finished my game against the Hawks. Here is the after game screen:



Notice the extremely high shooting percentages, especially the CPU. What do you suggest I change? Simply dropping the shooting sliders down 2-3 for CPU and 1-2 for me?

Also, look at the CPU steals/my turnovers. 16 turnovers, 14 considered a "steal". I don't know how to fix this. Half of them are the computer picking off a pass they shouldn't, the other half are simple on ball steals. None of the 5 steals the Hawks gave up were made by me, all by my cpu players who love to get called for reaching in at least 8 times a game.

Other than the high shooting percentages and the computer taking 17 more shots than me once again plus the extreme occurring of steals, I think it was an okay game. I deserved to lose to the Hawks who are the 5th seed I believe (2 games left until playoffs) and I simply didn't play an overall good game in my opinion.

I also recorded a few videos of me getting screwed over/cpu getting an advantage which I will try and upload later

Was this with the cpu on ball defense down to 0 like you said you tried? Curious because I'm experiencing the same problems with steals.

Also, I've turned down the cpu shooting sliders a few points (especially inside scoring) and turned user shooting down 1 on all those.

[x_NBA_x]

Re: OS Trifecta Edit Slider Set

Would tendencies play a big part in how many shots and percentages? As the 'attack the basket' tendency slider is at 95.

I'm experiencing the AI getting around 50-60% shooting, with the top teams like Lakers or Heat getting high 60-70%.

The rebound numbers are way too small for 9/10 min quarters so that might be down to the high percentages too. The AI are getting way too many steals and the User not enough.

Seems like a few minor tweaks to make the stats more realistic are needed.

[vtcrb]

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Are the steals by the CPU On-Ball Steals or is it Pass Lane deflections that are turning into steals? These sliders force you to make smart passes and not force things. If you try to force passes then you will get high turnovers. As far as them getting more shots than you if you commit 10 more turnovers, then that gives them 10 more possessions than you not including Off Reb, that is why the high difference in shot attempts. I designed these Sliders so their were NO Blowout games. You have to play Every possession on Off and Def. I have won by double digits ONLY a few times, but have also lost by double digits many times as well.

[mngophers21]

Re: OS Trifecta Edit Slider Set

Was this with the cpu on ball defense down to 0 like you said you tried? Curious because I'm experiencing the same problems with steals.

Also, I've turned down the cpu shooting sliders a few points (especially inside scoring) and turned user shooting down 1 on all those.

No this game was with the base slider set and steals reduced by 10 for the cpu. Next game I'm going to lower the On ball D back to 0 for cpu and adjust the shooting sliders.

Are the steals by the CPU On-Ball Steals or is it Pass Lane deflections that are turning into steals? These sliders force you to make smart passes and not force things. If you try to force passes then you will get high turnovers. As far as them getting more shots than you if you commit 10 more turnovers, then that gives them 10 more possessions than you not including Off Reb, that is why the high difference in shot attempts. I designed these Sliders so their were NO Blowout games. You have to play Every possession on Off and Def. I have won by double digits ONLY a few times, but have also lost by double digits many times as well.

It's hard to explain. Some of them are simple on ball steals, some are when I'm dribbling to execute a play, and some are even tossing a pass into my posting up big in which the defender will reach over and suck it into his hands. Then some are cpu defenders "reading my mind" per se.

These sliders are the best I've tried/used, I just want to fix it to make it better for me personally. Like I had back to back games both vs Cleveland. I won the first and lost the second because of the difference in way I was able to play, which made me really appreciate this set.

tomorrow will be when I have time to play again, I will make my adjustments and post results.

[vtcrb]

Re: OS Trifecta Edit Slider Set

Sounds good. Let me know how it goes. I have noticed that the CPU will adjust their style of play throughout the game on both Off and Def.

[mjbird123]

Re: OS Trifecta Edit Slider Set

I just finished my game against the Hawks.I lost 130-122. I love the sliders becuase they are challenging, I am the Wizards and are now 5-12. 2 things I have to say, 1 scoring to high but I can live with it, 2My 3's are to low 2/14 for 14%, and 3Way to many missed free throws, I was a wopping 28/43 for 65%. Those are my only complants.

PS Sorry if their are mistakes becuase I was in a rush to post this because I had to go somewhere for a few hours and by the time I got home I will forgt what I wanted to type.

[x_NBA_x]

Re: OS Trifecta Edit Slider Set

After playing numerous games as different teams I have found the right adjustments to get realistic shooting percentages by both teams and most of the other statistics to be pretty close to real-life statistics.

In regard to the shooting sliders, I had to drop the CPU down about three or four points each slider, while the USER down about two points, except the three-pointer slider, that is at 52 due to really low percentages even with wide open shots.

[vtcrb]

Re: OS Trifecta Edit Slider Set

Glad to hear you guys are finding ways to tweak things to make the sliders work best for you. I have decided to Lower Player Speed to 20 for my own personal enjoyment. I also did raise 3pt% to 51 for USER and Lower CPU 3pt shooting to 49. I am also glad to see you guys noticing a different outcome when replaying games, as I have also noticed this. Steals are an issue I have seen the most comments on. USER steals will depend on how much you reach for the ball when playing On Ball D. Now CPU steals have alot to do with them playing the Passing lanes. I designed so that the USER has to work every possession and cant just low full court passes for layups. When feeding the post you also have to get the right angle to pass IF not the CPU may deflect the pass. Keep the feedback coming.