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  • ScouserHUN
    Pro
    • Oct 2010
    • 510

    #1

    Turning a reliever into a starter

    Nowdays i's very common to turn a reliever into a starter. I'm planning to sign Phil Hughes from the Yankees and turn him into a starter.

    Is it possible without editing his stats?

    Thanks in advance
  • cusefan74
    MVP
    • Jul 2010
    • 2408

    #2
    Re: Turning a reliever into a starter

    You don't even have to edit him at all, you can just put him into your starting rotation., but you can change him to a starting pitcher if you want.

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    • ScouserHUN
      Pro
      • Oct 2010
      • 510

      #3
      Re: Turning a reliever into a starter

      Originally posted by cusefan74
      You don't even have to edit him at all, you can just put him into your starting rotation., but you can change him to a starting pitcher if you want.
      But how will he have better stamina? I mean imagine last year's Daniel Bard in the starting rotation...

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      • localmason34
        Rookie
        • Apr 2010
        • 14

        #4
        Re: Turning a reliever into a starter

        Ya I think ill swap bard and dice k. Make dice k a closer lol

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        • MoleDude
          Rookie
          • Apr 2010
          • 461

          #5
          Re: Turning a reliever into a starter

          Originally posted by ScouserHUN
          But how will he have better stamina? I mean imagine last year's Daniel Bard in the starting rotation...
          Hughes should already have pretty good stamina, no? The dude has been a starter the last 2 years.

          If he doesn't, then I think after a full year of starting his stamina might increase. Probably better off just editing him though.

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          • econoodle
            MVP
            • Sep 2009
            • 4884

            #6
            Re: Turning a reliever into a starter

            Originally posted by MoleDude
            Hughes should already have pretty good stamina, no? The dude has been a starter the last 2 years.

            If he doesn't, then I think after a full year of starting his stamina might increase. Probably better off just editing him though.

            yea, in the past i've edited him. otherwise he'd be tired by the 4th.

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            • decga
              MVP
              • Mar 2004
              • 2469

              #7
              Re: Turning a reliever into a starter

              Last year in The Show 11' I change Kris Medlen w/the Braves, from a reliever to a starter. I had to edit his stamina to about 75-80. He would get tired around 6 1/3 innings. He was a beast as LRP. I spot started him a couple of times and I liked his stuff.

              I have The Show 12'. I am playing with the Braves this year as well. I have not started my franchise yet. I am pitching well with the starting 5 in exhibition games, I will have Medlen as LRP again, but if anyone the young guys struggle or get injured. I will put Medlen in the rotation.
              Last edited by decga; 04-02-2012, 08:27 AM. Reason: revised a paragraph

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              • Gleebo
                Rookie
                • Jun 2003
                • 342

                #8
                Re: Turning a reliever into a starter

                I think what the OP wants to know is how to extend or work on the players ability to start in this game.

                For example if you make Hughes a SP in spring training will his stamina rating grow? If you send him down to AAA and have him in the rotation for the month and let him start 4-5 times will his stamina rating be effected?

                If you just throw him into the MLB rotation will he gain more stamina through the course of the season?

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                • DetroitStyle
                  Meow
                  • May 2011
                  • 1045

                  #9
                  Re: Turning a reliever into a starter

                  @OP, the game will NOT change his stamina rating according to where you have him play. This will need to be done on your own. In fact as players age I believe they LOSE stamina, but I'm not sure. Here's a good method (editing ratings) that I use that you might like. These are my house rules:

                  Reliever to Starter
                  1) If a reliever has a stamina rating above 80...do not change anything.

                  2) If a reliever has a stamina rating between 70-80...raise his stamina by 10 points.

                  3) If a reliever has a stamina rating between 40-60...raise his stamina by 20 points.

                  4) If a reliever has a stamina rating below 40...raise his stamina by 40 points.

                  Starter to Reliever
                  1) If a starter has a stamina rating between 100-90...lower his stamina by 20 points.

                  2) If a starter has a stamina rating between 90-80...lower his stamina by 30 points.

                  3) If a starter has a stamina rating between 80-60...lower his stamina by 40 points.

                  4) If a starter has a stamina rating between below 60...do not change anything.

                  What's fun about these house rules is that you can suffer from moving guys back and forth. Specifically pitchers will LOSE stamina (with my formulas) to more you move them back to the bullpen...which makes sense since they're not throwing as many pitches, thus shouldn't have as much stamina!

                  Example:

                  85 Stamina starter to bullpen. Lower stamina by 30 and get 55. Bring him back as a starter, raise his stamina 20 and get 75. He's now lost 10 points of stamina being a starter again! Bring him back to the bullpen, lower by 40 and get 35. Bring him back as a starter again and get 75! So he only gets the intial loss.

                  Of course if you want to negate the intial 10 point loss, then just ADD 10 more points once you move a reliever back to start (who was originally a releiver).

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                  • Redacted01
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 10316

                    #10
                    Re: Turning a reliever into a starter

                    Back in MVP when I would move guys back and forth, because there always seemed to be an abundance of starters in the bullpen, I would slowly increase the stamina. If they only made a spot-start, just keep it as is. If they make a 2nd start, start adding stamina after that, and then stop when you get to a reasonable level. A guy that is tired after 25 pitches might need most of a season to be able to throw 90 effectively. But if a long reliever, probably won't take more than a couple starts. In the middle of the season, I'd never just increase stamina outright. Offseason, that is another story.

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                    • DetroitStyle
                      Meow
                      • May 2011
                      • 1045

                      #11
                      Originally posted by natey2k4
                      For me, this is what I do;

                      Reliever to starter

                      I raise their stamina by 30%. IE: Relief Pitcher has a 57 stamina. I edit their stamina to 74.

                      I also knock down their fastball by 5% if I move a RP to a SP. IE: Pitcher has an 92 MPH fastball I edit them down to an 87-88 MPH fastball.

                      I do the exact opposite with SP to RP. Except I subtract 30% and add 5%.
                      Dang, never thought to use straight percentages...that works out much much better!

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                      • jkra0512
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 2277

                        #12
                        Re: Turning a reliever into a starter

                        Originally posted by natey2k4
                        For me, this is what I do;

                        Reliever to starter

                        I raise their stamina by 30%. IE: Relief Pitcher has a 57 stamina. I edit their stamina to 74.

                        I also knock down their fastball by 5% if I move a RP to a SP. IE: Pitcher has an 92 MPH fastball I edit them down to an 87-88 MPH fastball.

                        I do the exact opposite with SP to RP. Except I subtract 30% and add 5%.
                        Seems quite excessive adding/losing 4-5 mph on a fastball if you're throwing at 92 mph as a reliever. I know there needs to be a reward/penalty, but I doubt moving Freddy Garcia to the 'pen would give him a 92 mph fastball (throws 88-89 mph as a starter now). I like the idea a lot, but I think the reward/penalty may be too much.

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                        • livinitup921
                          Rookie
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 394

                          #13
                          Re: Turning a reliever into a starter

                          Do you think you should edit the k/9 ratings too? I dont have stats to back this up but say someone like Joba Chamberlain had a better k per 9 as a reliever than as a starter.
                          https://www.twitch.tv/livinitup921

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