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  • CcAaRrSsOoNn3
    MVP
    • May 2008
    • 1779

    #181
    Re: NCAA 13 Gameplay preview this Friday (GTTV)

    Originally posted by NINJAK2
    I actually like that idea on paper. No psychic db's and no wr's automatically adjusting and making catches without seeing the ball will make the game more balanced in theory for both sides..
    That's the key. It's looking good in theory right now.

    I'm sure they will fix psychic DB's, amazingly jumping Linebackers ... but it will likely open the flood gates for more issues.

    Get rid of the blue tint and i'm pretty happy thus far.

    Originally posted by gogators
    The video also has old Florida players so there is still some stuff from '12 they are using. Brantley is still QB throwing a pass to Rainey so the roster part is not updated. Most of it is just to show what they fixed and the difference b/t psychic DBs from 12 to '13.
    Yeah all of the screens are old players as well. Kirk Cousins was in the shot of Michigan State.

    Not really sure when they edit their rosters ... but makes me wonder why they don't have certain late transfers like Danny O'Brien.
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    • H to the Oza
      Rookie
      • Sep 2008
      • 258

      #182
      Not impressed. Slap a graphic/roster update on 2K5 and it blows anything EA has done in the last few years out of the water

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      • DJACK
        Banned
        • Apr 2010
        • 285

        #183
        Re: NCAA 13 Gameplay preview this Friday (GTTV)

        Originally posted by NINJAK2
        I actually like that idea on paper. No psychic db's and no wr's automatically adjusting and making catches without seeing the ball will make the game more balanced in theory for both sides..
        Yeah the more I think about it the more I like the idea actually. It may stop those quick passes to the seam on 4-verts from working which would be nice.

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        • Kid FSU
          Banned
          • May 2010
          • 415

          #184
          Re: NCAA Football 13 Video - No More Psychic DB's, 25 Different Pass Trajectory Zones

          Originally posted by H to the Oza
          Not impressed. Slap a graphic/roster update on 2K5 and it blows anything EA has done in the last few years out of the water
          Shu liam lui doodley! lol

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          • K0ZZ
            The Hard Way
            • Dec 2004
            • 3871

            #185
            Re: NCAA Football 13 Video - No More Psychic DB's, 25 Different Pass Trajectory Zones

            Originally posted by H to the Oza
            Not impressed. Slap a graphic/roster update on 2K5 and it blows anything EA has done in the last few years out of the water
            Disagree.

            2K5 has a lot of its own issues. The presentation was repetitive (not as bad as some recent generations Maddens).

            Animations were extremely stiff, it was a whoever could mash A/X the fastest would score, running pitches was a joke. It would need engine changes as well.

            A lot of it is nostalgia, it's a good game but it doesn't hold up with current games. I've tried playing it and I couldn't. It's stiff and doesn't feel right.
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            • sportzbro
              MVP
              • May 2008
              • 3892

              #186
              Re: NCAA Football 13 Video - No More Psychic DB's, 25 Different Pass Trajectory Zones

              Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson
              Another thought........

              If this read & react defense is all based off of sight. Then technically it would mean option plays, reverses and WR bubble screens SHOULD work a hell of a lot better this year. Since there is a delay in reaction now and they won't automatically get into position to make a play at the snap of the ball.

              Which also means if you run a sluggo route or any complex route with a good WR against a low awareness DB, that DB should be toasted.

              Another thing......since it effect offense as well, this means FINALLY the star WR SHOULD get the bulk of the passes now, since technically their AWARENESS level is much higher then the other WRs and therefore he should be looking back for the ball much quicker.

              I wonder if this "SIGHT" applies to blocking as well ? Which would mean a beast DE with high awareness should destroy a low awareness offensive tackle since his reaction time would be much faster then the blocker.

              I wonder if low awareness DB reach out and tug on the WR if they are beaten ? It SHOULD be this way, considering if you are late turning, natural reaction would be to grab the other guy's jersey.

              Back to this "SIGHT" thing. So does this finally mean we can run past a defender who is looking the other way, on the opposite side of the field and NOT have him INSTANTLY shed his block and do a 180 degree turn to tackle us from behind ?

              And since QBs roll out on screen passes now, does this mean spread teams like Oregon will ACTUALLY be DANGEROUS this year ? Due to the fact the CPU could never throw a screen successfully in the past, spread teams who relied on WR and HB screens as their main staple of their offense SUFFERED greatly.

              Now on to trajectory. Does this mean Fade routes will actually not only LOOK right but also WORK more often then not ? Since we should be able to just float it up there to the back shoulder now. I am intrigued by the possibilities of back of the corner end zone throws now. That was something you really never could do before because the ball only had one trajectory.
              Pump the brakes.

              Originally posted by BlueNGold
              Those animations are brutal to watch. That one juke in the flats by the RB....
              Agreed.. Looked like the same weightless, shifty movements.

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              • PRAY IV M3RCY
                Pro
                • May 2010
                • 618

                #187
                Originally posted by PaleVermilion
                I think they were showing an example of past psychic DB plays as they were talking about what happened in the past. And then they showed new footage as they talked about how its changed.
                no they would have made it known they were showing ncaa 12 footage..all of this was 13 buddy

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                • H to the Oza
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 258

                  #188
                  Originally posted by chicagopax
                  Disagree.

                  2K5 has a lot of its own issues. The presentation was repetitive (not as bad as some recent generations Maddens).

                  Animations were extremely stiff, it was a whoever could mash A/X the fastest would score, running pitches was a joke. It would need engine changes as well.

                  A lot of it is nostalgia, it's a good game but it doesn't hold up with current games. I've tried playing it and I couldn't. It's stiff and doesn't feel right.
                  I played a game of 2K5 a few months ago.. I was up 4 on 4th down with only a few seconds left and just had to punt the ball away. Well, the punt got BLOCKED and as time expired the CPU ran down the field untouched for a game winning touchdown, now tell me, how often does this happen in EA games?

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                  • PaleVermilion
                    Rookie
                    • May 2010
                    • 280

                    #189
                    Re: NCAA Football 13 Video - No More Psychic DB's, 25 Different Pass Trajectory Zones

                    Originally posted by PRAY IV M3RCY
                    no they would have made it known they were showing ncaa 12 footage..all of this was 13 buddy
                    You mean like at 14:22 when he says stuff like "no more psychic DBs" and "in years past" while showing the DBs do exactly what he was talking about? Okay buddy. Buh bye.

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                    • ecfivester
                      Rookie
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 19

                      #190
                      Originally posted by PRAY IV M3RCY
                      no they would have made it known they were showing ncaa 12 footage..all of this was 13 buddy
                      Oh look we have the producer/designer of the video. How nice of you to grace us with your presence.

                      Since you seem to know exactly what you are talking about, no assumptions at all, can you please tell us why we are waiting for this "playbooks". Obviously you guys already know what is going into the game, and since it is already finished, can you let us know when the next sneak peak is besides these "playbook" dates?

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                      • jeremym480
                        Speak it into existence
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 18198

                        #191
                        @palevermillion I thought it was pretty obvious that they were showing NCAA 12 there. I guess not. Like someone else mentioned they should have showed which game the clips were from so it wouldn't be as confusing.

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                        • PRAY IV M3RCY
                          Pro
                          • May 2010
                          • 618

                          #192
                          Originally posted by PaleVermilion
                          You mean like at 14:22 when he says stuff like "no more psychic DBs" and "in years past" while showing the DBs do exactly what he was talking about? Okay buddy. Buh bye.
                          all im saying is stop with the excuses..now u guys are just being ridiculous. cmon showing different games in that amount of time..and no overlays saying which one is which?..how about right before they show the footage it says "world exclusive"..use some common sense

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                          • PRAY IV M3RCY
                            Pro
                            • May 2010
                            • 618

                            #193
                            Originally posted by ecfivester
                            Oh look we have the producer/designer of the video. How nice of you to grace us with your presence.

                            Since you seem to know exactly what you are talking about, no assumptions at all, can you please tell us why we are waiting for this "playbooks". Obviously you guys already know what is going into the game, and since it is already finished, can you let us know when the next sneak peak is besides these "playbook" dates?
                            im just using some common sense instead of trying to come up with any type of excuse as to y the game still looks the same..with horrific animations.

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                            • cbc72
                              Rookie
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 344

                              #194
                              Re: NCAA Football 13 Video - No More Psychic DB's, 25 Different Pass Trajectory Zones

                              To me, the receiver icons seemed to give an indication on at what point in a route you should realistically be able to make a pass to that receiver.

                              It didn't appear to have to be at the perfect point of the route, just that they had to complete a certain amount of the route before you could throw.

                              I thought I even noticed a couple of the receivers did have their icons up from the beginning of the play.

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                              • cparrish
                                MVP
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 1539

                                #195
                                Re: NCAA Football 13 Video - No More Psychic DB's, 25 Different Pass Trajectory Zones

                                Originally posted by H to the Oza
                                I played a game of 2K5 a few months ago.. I was up 4 on 4th down with only a few seconds left and just had to punt the ball away. Well, the punt got BLOCKED and as time expired the CPU ran down the field untouched for a game winning touchdown, now tell me, how often does this happen in EA games?
                                I actually blocked an extra point in my online dynasty to win the game last month. It should happen more often though, I do agree with that.

                                Originally posted by PRAY IV M3RCY
                                im just using some common sense instead of trying to come up with any type of excuse as to y the game still looks the same..with horrific animations.
                                They game will look the same no matter what. They are not going to rebuild the engine for the game until the consoles come out. Not sure why people are so caught up on the game looking different.
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