NCAA Football 13 Video - No More Psychic DB's, 25 Different Pass Trajectory Zones

[ODogg]

Re: NCAA Football 13 Video - No More Psychic DB's, 25 Different Pass Trajectory Zones

I remember back when NCAA 11 was coming out we had Russ Kiniry on here asking for feedback, Jean Adams on here asking for feedback for player equipment. Then when 11 dropped they disappeared

they take vacation right after the game is released

[ODogg]

Re: NCAA Football 13 Video - No More Psychic DB's, 25 Different Pass Trajectory Zones

You got your dreads -- I don't think you can ask for anything ever again

Still waiting on different dread lengths and non-black players having long hair!!

[Pared]

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People need to stop being star struck by developer interactions. They are regular people just like anybody else. Grant it some people go over the line and be rude just to be rude. However most of the time however it be legit questions being asked.

If you don't have thick skin and can't converse in a good civil debate of what works and what don't work in your product, then by all means just don't comment. What bothers me the most is when legit questions get asked and don't get answered, but let some kid ask about 3D grass, cleats, mouth guards or release dates, those type of questions get answered instead.

I wish some developers would come on here and tell it how it really is. Don't sugar coat it. Good number of us are older or the same age of these developers. We can handle the truth.

If something don't work, then just come out it and say:



Now I can live with a response like that. You know, just tell the truth, be straight up with people.

Oh how I wish a developer would come on here and write a long deep documentation of what all the ratings and sliders ACTUALLY do in the game. The scale of ratings that trigger certain animation triggers. The scale of ratings and sliders that trigger certain AI behaviors on the field.

And I mean what they REALLY do, not some dictionary definition of what the word mean. Because what the word means and what it ACTUALLY do in the game be two completely different things.

Maybe, just maybe........If they did that, we the consumers could HELP them make a BETTER game. Just a thought. Run it through your legal department and make it happen.

Just as quick and talkative you guys want to be when it comes to cover votes, team entrances and band locations, be talkative about game play, ratings, sliders, animation triggers. You know the real nuts and bolts of the game.

Yes, that makes sense - completely disregard your companies IP and give all your design specifications for free! I wonder why more business just don't go the route of open source!

The developers are here to interact when possible. If it frustrates you that you don't get a response your best bet is to contact the game company's support line. Having developer interaction here is a bonus and a privilege, not a right.

[Scrapps]

Re: NCAA Football 13 Video - No More Psychic DB's, 25 Different Pass Trajectory Zones

Say EA does completely eliminate psychic DBs it still will not matter because as soon as certain people on this forum throw their very first interception they will be on here whining.


These kind of comments make me wonder why developers even bother going on these forums. Instead of being happy that they are interacting with the forums you just go and make smart comments. You should be happy that they do come on the forums because they do not have to.

So, we should be ecstatic that someone from EA pops in for second with a twenty word response, yet avoids these boards like the plague for the 6 months following release? Got it.

[kenlovin]

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People need to stop being star struck by developer interactions. They are regular people just like anybody else. Grant it some people go over the line and be rude just to be rude. However most of the time however it be legit questions being asked.

If you don't have thick skin and can't converse in a good civil debate of what works and what don't work in your product, then by all means just don't comment. What bothers me the most is when legit questions get asked and don't get answered, but let some kid ask about 3D grass, cleats, mouth guards or release dates, those type of questions get answered instead.

I wish some developers would come on here and tell it how it really is. Don't sugar coat it. Good number of us are older or the same age of these developers. We can handle the truth.

If something don't work, then just come out it and say:



Now I can live with a response like that. You know, just tell the truth, be straight up with people.

Oh how I wish a developer would come on here and write a long deep documentation of what all the ratings and sliders ACTUALLY do in the game. The scale of ratings that trigger certain animation triggers. The scale of ratings and sliders that trigger certain AI behaviors on the field.

And I mean what they REALLY do, not some dictionary definition of what the word mean. Because what the word means and what it ACTUALLY do in the game be two completely different things.

Maybe, just maybe........If they did that, we the consumers could HELP them make a BETTER game. Just a thought. Run it through your legal department and make it happen.

Just as quick and talkative you guys want to be when it comes to cover votes, team entrances and band locations, be talkative about game play, ratings, sliders, animation triggers. You know the real nuts and bolts of the game.

I haven't posted in months but this deserves a reply. I feel the exact way. I have playing this game since 01 or rather actually buying it on my own since then, and while I am eager to hear the developments tomorrow, what I have learned is this. Nothing matters until the game is in your hands. These guys are developers slash spokesmen. While they are releasing info they are also serving two purposes and the other is to sell the game. So while I'm probably going to buy the game it will not be until the positives and negatives are thoroughly found by this community, bc I can't remember what year it was but remember the game not being ready to play until dec. Sorry if there are typos typed this out on my phone

[Pared]

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So, we should be ecstatic that someone from EA pops in for second with a twenty word response, yet avoids these boards like the plague for the 6 months following release? Got it.

No, you take video game marketing with a grain of salt until you actually play the game.

I sometimes wonder how some of you are members of this site for such a long time (or even video game players in general) and still don't realize this. It's the same story - every. single. year.

[CRMosier_LM]

So, we should be ecstatic that someone from EA pops in for second with a twenty word response, yet avoids these boards like the plague for the 6 months following release? Got it.

They are on here each day reading nearly every post that is productive and insightful. If you were them, would you come here and post so you could be trolled constantly?!? I doubt it, they are people just like you and I (albeit with a job most people on these forums would love to have) and deserve to be treated as we would any other person we meet in everyday life. They don't want their butt kissed, and they don't want to be coddled, and they certainly don't want (I would imagine) the horrible treatment they receive from a few people. No just because people have an internet connection does not mean they have the right to be malicious towards others because they can be anonymous.

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[Pared]

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They are on here each day reading nearly every post that is productive and insightful. If you were them, would you come here and post so you could be trolled constantly?!? I doubt it, they are people just like you and I (albeit with a job most people on these forums would love to have) and deserve to be treated as we would any other person we meet in everyday life. They don't want their butt kissed, and they don't want to be coddled, and they certainly don't want (I would imagine) the horrible treatment they receive from a few people. No just because people have an internet connection does not mean they have the right to be malicious towards others because they can be anonymous.

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While I agree with you, the more respectful board members would agree that there is a noticeable difference in pre and post release support on the forums here.

It's a cycle that has been pretty apparent for a few years now. Without knowing EA's allowances for public discussions on game "issues" I can honestly say there is certainly a difference when a game is getting praised due to hype and being blasted due to bugs/glitches/broken features.

[Gotmadskillzson]

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You people make it sound like if they give out the true meaning of their ratings and sliders and how they control things on the field or just a ratings scale animation trigger of certain AI behavior, that your average joe can take that information, go out and build a video game off that little knowledge alone.

[CRMosier_LM]

While I agree with you, the more respectful board members would agree that there is a noticeable difference in pre and post release support on the forums here.

It's a cycle that has been pretty apparent for a few years now. Without knowing EA's allowances for public discussions on game "issues" I can honestly say there is certainly a difference when a game is getting praised due to hype and being blasted due to bugs/glitches/broken features.

I agree completely! My answer to that has always been "same with every company" but yet we as a community tend to act like its only EA (and Activision on most other sites). That isn't a "sticking up for EA" statement, its a "you aren't the only ones" statement across not just gaming but business in general. And by saying that I'm NOT saying it is right or ok by any stretch, essentially you can say I'm being "captain obvious". I want better post release support and whatnot for every game I play, obviously Madden and NCAA are included. Imo the issue isn't that they want the dev team to be here so they can let them know what's wrong, its that they want them here to yell, scream, and troll them as you see in this thread. Now I know there are some great posters here, I was here long before becoming a GC, and there input is awesome but the hate and ignorant statements are just downright wrong and no matter what justification people wanna come up with, it shouldn't be tolerated.
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[Broncos86]

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While I agree with you, the more respectful board members would agree that there is a noticeable difference in pre and post release support on the forums here.

It's a cycle that has been pretty apparent for a few years now. Without knowing EA's allowances for public discussions on game "issues" I can honestly say there is certainly a difference when a game is getting praised due to hype and being blasted due to bugs/glitches/broken features.

With how volatile this board (and others) can be, I'm not sure I'd come here much either if I were working on Madden/NCAA. The level of venom and putrid behavior is staggering, and I'd be too embarrassed to ever post here again if I said some of the things that people come here to say.

It's even worse with these rookies who come here, brand new, and instantly mouth off as if this is a platform from which to launch their vile poison towards EA. I love Madden and NCAA just as much as the next guy, but some people get too personal about it.

[mtoo22]

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With how volatile this board (and others) can be, I'm not sure I'd come here much either if I were working on Madden/NCAA. The level of venom and putrid behavior is staggering, and I'd be too embarrassed to ever post here again if I said some of the things that people come here to say.

It's even worse with these rookies who come here, brand new, and instantly mouth off as if this is a platform from which to launch their vile poison towards EA. I love Madden and NCAA just as much as the next guy, but some people get too personal about it.

Almost every large forum is this way. Not that it makes it right, but you have to ignore those who just spout off and yell, and look at the real people who want to see a difference.

[SageInfinite]

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Vile poison....lmao

[JerseySuave4]

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The problem with the developer interaction wasn't the bashing, it was the fact that, like someone else already said, they'd look past the questions about things that really have an impact on the game and answer the questions about the glitter and fluff. We'll ignore the question about Special Teams but look at the reflection on this helmet when you're in the replay screen zoomed in right in tight on the helmet.

And how many years have we heard about Progressive Lighting? I feel like every year we hear about the sky and time change and progressive lighting.

To the person before that was saying NBA 2k12 and MLB the Show have flaws and aren't perfect, you're right. But those games are on a much higher level to where you can overlook some of those flaws because the rest of the game is so good. With NCAA the flaws make an ugly game uglier. The game doesn't play like football.

And being the only college football game out there, they are the only ones we're going to direct our displeasure with. So when year after year Ben and his boys hype up new features and then they either don't work correctly or don't impact the game enough to overlook the negative, it's going to annoy people.

They hype up, "We've added Custom stadium sounds this year so you can add your own music." Then we get the game and it doesn't even work correctly. "We added Teambuilder so you can import your own teams from the internet." Then they leave you with half-assed options, no text box, no picking your team brand, no sock options, etc. Then we ask and ask and ask for a text box and they add a half assed text box with 3 choices of text. "We added coaching carousel!" Then we get to play it and it doesn't work right.

So they're hyping up these new features and then they don't even work. Then on top of that Special Teams still remains untouched, Defense hardly gets an update, animations are still ugly, linemen still act like they ride on the short bus, defensive linemen cut on a dime, etc.

Yea a lot of us who complain end up getting the game anyway but as you can see from the other thread, it's mainly because of our love of college football and having no other options for a game than this game actually being good. I ended up selling my game back for the first time ever last year because the game was such a mess.

They put out a game and right away they need to make a patch for it.

For every person who is negative towards this game there is an EA nut hugger who makes excuses and either overlooks the flaws or is simply too blind to even see them. Yes people want to have fun and enjoy a game but it's hard to when the game is so filled with bugs and glitches. And the frustration of coming here year after year and saying the same things over and over only to have them basically ignored gets frustrating.

[Scrapps]

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With how volatile this board (and others) can be, I'm not sure I'd come here much either if I were working on Madden/NCAA. The level of venom and putrid behavior is staggering, and I'd be too embarrassed to ever post here again if I said some of the things that people come here to say.

It's even worse with these rookies who come here, brand new, and instantly mouth off as if this is a platform from which to launch their vile poison towards EA. I love Madden and NCAA just as much as the next guy, but some people get too personal about it.

I tend to think people have a right to voice their displeasure considering the recent history of this game. And I agree. Saying this game sucks or going off on some rant, is not at all productive. However, this once great game, has been an absolute joke, on the current gen consoles. Every Feb/March, the hype train gets rolling touting their "various" new features. Yet, when the game is released with countless glitches/bugs, all of a sudden, the silence is deafening.
Countless posters have asked for a simple explanation of how the various ratings translate into actual gameplay. Whats that you hear? Crickets. Nothing. Not a word. Anyone with any affiliation to EA, goes into hiding. If Bin Laden had half the fleeing capabilities of this company, he'd probably still be alive. Or, maybe he is. Yet, as sure as the sun emerges every single day, February rolls around, and you can plainly hear something chugging down those tracks.