NCAA Football 13 Gameplay Trailer

[Ramminyou]

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That is what happens when you game remains the same for 5+ years with no large improvements.

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Amazing how all of them look so much alike, same animations, same tackles, same weight/momentum, same gameplay

Well the human race hasn't evolved all that much over the last 5 years, and the game of football is still largely the same. It makes sense for bite-sized clips of the games to look very similar. For me the problem is less about EA not making drastic changes for the sake of change but more about not getting things in the game to work properly. If the fixes and additions in 13 work as advertised, I'd be extremely pleased with the game. The issue is whether they will actually work.

[Phobia]

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now who needs to grow up.....no need to talk down to people because the enjoy playing a GAME ...that's all it is realistic or arcardy it will always be just a game....just like 2k football there is good parts and bad y'all say it looks life like but you fail to say how much control it takes out of your hands....its good to look at but control like a tank...



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Ok maybe the hook line and sinker was a tad childish. But seriously we have this same debate every year. Hell I was on the other side of the fence defending the changes and improvements last year. But the same trend always continues about the game being hyped out of control and then falling far short of what people would like. The same people not wanting to hear about the short comings will be the ones coming here complaining that the game is STILL lack luster and the improvements minor. Mark my words this will happen. You might not agree with my comments now, but you agree more after several months with the game in your hands.

@Ramminyou - It is not just the short clips being the point. It is that the game itself, not football that doesn't change. See the problem is everyone talks about the same issues year in and year out. The core game remains the same and has for years. So the same problems continue to carry over year after year after year.

Where is the large improvements? I understand there is minor improvements, but the game has bigger issues that need tending to. You would think in 5 years they could improve the animations, the blocking, running animations, hell all the animations to begin with, feeling of weight (less zip zag running).....on and on.

[roadman]

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Ok maybe the hook line and sinker was a tad childish. But seriously we have this same debate every year. Hell I was on the other side of the fence defending the changes and improvements last year. But the same trend always continues about the game being hyped out of control and then falling far short of what people would like. The same people not wanting to hear about the short comings will be the ones coming here complaining that the game is STILL lack luster and the improvements minor. Mark my words this will happen. You might not agree with my comments now, but you agree more after several months with the game in your hands.

@Ramminyou - It is not just the short clips being the point. It is that the game itself, not football that doesn't change. See the problem is everyone talks about the same issues year in and year out. The core game remains the same and has for years. So the same problems continue to carry over year after year after year.

Where is the large improvements? I understand there is minor improvements, but the game has bigger issues that need tending to. You would think in 5 years they could improve the animations, the blocking, running animations, hell all the animations to begin with, feeling of weight (less zip zag running).....on and on.

Unfortunately, Phobes, I don't see your last paragraph happening until the crossover of the NG consoles. I would think a new engine(s) would take care of those needy issues, but we'll see.

Unfortunately, EA is late to the party and now I see them trying to play catch up. It's not a terrible thing to be headed in the right direction, hopefully, as it does appear.

[DJ]

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Unfortunately, Phobes, I don't see your last paragraph happening until the crossover of the NG consoles. I would think a new engine(s) would take care of those needy issues, but we'll see.

Unfortunately, EA is late to the party and now I see them trying to play catch up. It's not a terrible thing to be headed in the right direction, hopefully, as it does appear.

Agreed, Road. Like Sage said, what we're seeing now is what we should've been seeing around NCAA 07-09.

[Phobia]

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Unfortunately, Phobes, I don't see your last paragraph happening until the crossover of the NG consoles. I would think a new engine(s) would take care of those needy issues, but we'll see.

Unfortunately, EA is late to the party and now I see them trying to play catch up. It's not a terrible thing to be headed in the right direction, hopefully, as it does appear.

Agreed, Road. Like Sage said, what we're seeing now is what we should've been seeing around NCAA 07-09.

Completely agree Road. I think this gen we will never see those improvements. Purchase the minor improvements every year is fine for some people. I will refrain from doing so.

[TDKing]

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It's been stated a handful of times that you can still throw to the receiver with icon dimmed out. And apparently, it works exactly the way you say it should work.

Not sure that it matters though considering you've already made the decision that you're not purchasing it.

Why do they have to light up the ICONS ? Its cheap and unrealistic! Why can't the receivers just put their arm up or something.
I haven't seen anything yet that makes me say I gotta have this game... waiting for the demo.

[RGiles36]

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Why do they have to light up the ICONS ? Its cheap and unrealistic! Why can't the receivers just put their arm up or something.
I haven't seen anything yet that makes me say I gotta have this game... waiting for the demo.

I feel you, but what is the difference between the icons lighting up in NCAA 13 and the icons being lit in NCAA 12 today? It's not like they're going to pulsate or be some weird distraction in 13. The only difference is that they'll start out dim.

[drlw322]

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I for one am happy with these gameplay improvements. Some of thesethi gs in the passing games have been budging me for years. Now it is finally fixed according to ea. The swat attempt at the end didn't look bad at all. And the wr went up to get the ball at the highest point with proper animation. Its been long over due. Just couple years ago everyonr was harping when the passing game was going to be improved. Now they do it everyone complains. Cant pls everyone but I'm happy

[TDKing]

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I feel you, but what is the difference between the icons lighting up in NCAA 13 and the icons being lit in NCAA 12 today? It's not like they're going to pulsate or be some weird distraction in 13. The only difference is that they'll start out dim.

They won't pulsate, but they will be lighting up at different times all over the field. Staying lit and lighting up are way different to me, lighting up will seem like flashes all over the place it kinda ruins the emersion factor seems more arcadey (IMO). I would much rather the reciever raise their arm when they are ready for the ball. I guess it doesn't really matter now, not sure why they don't run this stuff by the "community" to get our opinions before they put it in the game. Who knows maybe it won't be so bad hmmm...

[SageInfinite]

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I am all for these improvements. Psychic db's was one of the most disgusting things I've seen in football. I'm glad they're gone, but it seems people get offended when you aren't impressed about the improvements EA made. The passing game overhaul was definitely overdue, but things being added like trajectories is just a little idk, it's just funny to me EA thought it was cool to have 2 trajectories. Like they didn't see anything wrong with it for years, lol, and I'm supposed to be excited that they finally realized this? Lol. It's just funny to me.

I will enjoy the game for what it is with my limited time with it, but getting excited now is something I just can't do. I've owned every NCAA game, and I guess the excitement from these improvements is so low for me because the base of the engine(s) was so bad to begin with. Here's to next gen and hoping they decide to go with a more sim based foundation. Props to the devs for all the hardwork, shame on EA/Tiburon for such terrible focus and vision for all these years. Look no further than the back of NCAA 10 for evidence of this.

[DJ]

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I am all for these improvements. Psychic db's was one of the most disgusting things I've seen in football. I'm glad they're gone, but it seems people get offended when you aren't impressed about the improvements EA made. The passing game overhaul was definitely overdue, but things being added like trajectories is just a little idk, it's just funny to me EA thought it was cool to have 2 trajectories. Like they didn't see anything wrong with it for years, lol, and I'm supposed to be excited that they finally realized this? Lol. It's just funny to me.

I will enjoy the game for what it is with my limited time with it, but getting excited now is something I just can't do. I've owned every NCAA game, and I guess the excitement from these improvements is so low for me because the base of the engine(s) was so bad to begin with. Here's to next gen and hoping they decide to go with a more sim based foundation. Props to the devs for all the hardwork, shame on EA/Tiburon for such terrible focus and vision for all these years. Look no further than the back of NCAA 10 for evidence of this.

I would've given this post 2 thumbs up, but you lose one for being a Jets fan

In all seriousness, though, great post and this sums up how I'm feeling about NCAA and EA/Tiburon as a whole right now as well.

[SageInfinite]

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I would've given this post 2 thumbs up, but you lose one for being a Jets fan

In all seriousness, though, great post and this sums up how I'm feeling about NCAA and EA/Tiburon as a whole right now as well.

LOL. Thanks my dude. Glad we share the same opinion. It's just funny to me how guys get mad or offended like I bash this game just because they enjoy the game as is. I'm a huge fan of NBA 2k, but I don't react like that when guys don't enjoy it like me.

[RGiles36]

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I am all for these improvements. Psychic db's was one of the most disgusting things I've seen in football. I'm glad they're gone, but it seems people get offended when you aren't impressed about the improvements EA made. The passing game overhaul was definitely overdue, but things being added like trajectories is just a little idk, it's just funny to me EA thought it was cool to have 2 trajectories. Like they didn't see anything wrong with it for years, lol, and I'm supposed to be excited that they finally realized this? Lol. It's just funny to me.

Speaking on my behalf, I'm not offended when people aren't impressed. As I've stated in the Madden forum several times, people have different levels of expectations -- as they should. The same scenario will play out when Madden's marketing gets in full swing here shortly.

But I do think it's short-sighted when people RIP EA's football games for their shortcomings, only to give no credit when EA addresses those things. Or, EA fixes ABC, but they didn't touch XYZ so the game is still a massive fail. Not being able to see the forest through the trees is a trait I see a lot of on OS.

Again, people are entitled to their own expectations. Not everyone is willing to let EA off the hook for the 'dark years' and I get that. But both NCAA & Madden are finally on the uptick and it sometimes seems people are so lost in their misery that they can't see that.

Let's not confuse this w/ me telling people to lower their expectations though -- def not saying that.

[SageInfinite]

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One more thing I'd like to add, might get a little hate for this, but idk, seems like EA has a little bit of tunnel vision when developing these games every year. Seems like they focus on a certain aspect and that's it. More info could come out, but it just seems to me like if I were working on the passing game I'd work on every aspect. Penalties, OL/DL, QB styles, WR DB interaction, as well as what they did, then it would be a little but more understandable if the running game wasn't touched on. Just seems to me they choose to work on the game in compartments instead of on a whole.

It's just like when they added refs but didn't add the chain gangs. It's like all they see is the one goal they set and don't see anything else. Respect for what they do though, I appreciate the effort they put into getting us information now. The podcasts and interaction is definitely the best thing about this generation coming from EA/Tiburon. Shout out to all those who still get the most out of this game.

[jmiller937]

Oh no...the sidelines. No no no.