OS Roundtable: What do you think of the NCAA Football Gameplay Enhancements?

[jenglund]

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Enhancements sound great until you think, "Wait, why weren't those always in the game?"

The two I think of are the 5- and 7-step dropbacks and the trajectories. These are just basic football pieces that should have always been in the game, so it makes it a little frustrating to read about.

However, I understand DB/WR interaction and awareness stuff can always be enhanced; those things are the nuances of the game that I'm sure are challenging to program.

I enjoyed last year's game, and recently started playing it again and am having fun, but I am skeptical about what the writers said about the "two steps forward, two steps back."

All I want: CPU teams that can run the spread and option correctly, pass trajectories, and an absolutely flawless dynasty/coaching carousel mode.

[slingblade73]

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I think they should retail the game at $30 this year out of good will.

[DorianDonP]

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I approach everything at this point with major skepticism regarding EA titles. While the addition of the animations is nice, I was a little let down to see the same CB swat animation thats been in the game for awhile.

To go along with the tired over the catch animation from the receiver on an under-thrown ball. Disappointing that receivers still don't appear to make a play on the ball.

We never hear anyone complain about receiving animations, so put a little focus on the lines and go from there.

Maybe they chose to do receiving animations because it's more attractive to the casual fan on box covers and sizzle trailers.

To most OS users, hearing 400 new OL/DL interaction animations would prolly blow our minds.

To most casual fans, hearing 400 new OL/Dl interaction animations might cause a yawn.

[ABR173rd]

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To go along with the tired over the catch animation from the receiver on an under-thrown ball. Disappointing that receivers still don't appear to make a play on the ball.

We never hear anyone complain about receiving animations, so put a little focus on the lines and go from there.

Maybe they chose to do receiving animations because it's more attractive to the casual fan on box covers and sizzle trailers.

To most OS users, hearing 400 new OL/DL interaction animations would prolly blow our minds.

To most casual fans, hearing 400 new OL/Dl interaction animations might cause a yawn.

It wasn't just the DB swat animations but the same weird tackling animations, they may have added new animations but from what I saw the majority of them still look awkward for lack of a better word.

I was just disappointed to see additional animations as a showcased feature and then see some of the weirder ones still in the game.

[fcboiler87]

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I find it very interesting that this board by in large has taken on a cautious sentiment. Last year, the hype train was full heading into release. After the debacle that was '12, a lot of people are not forgetting that and aren't jumping immediately on the train again this year. I think it's a smart thing to do.

Don't get me wrong; as many have stated, the changes are great and welcomed with open arms. But it's 2012 and we're getting correct dropbacks from the quarterback? You wonder how that's not in to begin with. I personally don't plan to buy it simply to make a point. But too, I don't see any real good reason to buy it yet. Maybe I will. I really do hope I can get swayed with the dynasty news.

[Gotmadskillzson]

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The whole thing with me is HOW OFTEN will this new stuff play out.

I mean they added 100s of new catch animations last year.......None of them played out unless you USER CATCHED, even then I only seen 3 or 4 different ones in NCAA 12.

Bull Rush Animation ? Never seen the CPU do it.......

100s of new tackles added last year ? Where ? I seen the same 5 tackle animations over and over.

Same thing with locomotion........Didn't see defenders slow down when they changed directions. Didn't see the difference between a 99 acceleration player from a 0 acceleration player.

So until they make it where these actually play out more often, with more variety, I have hard time believing they have 100s of various animations when I been playing the game to death and only see 5 different ones.

[Retropyro]

I WANT it to be good and see all enhancements actually do what they say they will. But I'm just going to take a wait and see approach this year. No more buying into the hype for me.

[Orangemann]

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While you guys are wasting time saying too little, too late...I am saying, finally!! i can't wait to get my hands on this game. I've never lived my life being a negative nancy, and don't plan on changing that anytime soon.

Instead of harping about that should have been in the game 3 years ago, why not appreciate the fact that it will be in the new game? I just don't understand the line of thinking for some of you guys. It's a video game guys...find ways to enjoy it for what it is worth. We will NEVER have a perfect football game...if you want real football, go outside and play.

Exactly this

[Smoke6]

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While you guys are wasting time saying too little, too late...I am saying, finally!! i can't wait to get my hands on this game. I've never lived my life being a negative nancy, and don't plan on changing that anytime soon.

Instead of harping about that should have been in the game 3 years ago, why not appreciate the fact that it will be in the new game? I just don't understand the line of thinking for some of you guys. It's a video game guys...find ways to enjoy it for what it is worth. We will NEVER have a perfect football game...if you want real football, go outside and play.

Know one is asking or expecting a "perfect" football game, this line keeps being used way too much and its out of context. The reason why guys are harping on this is for the fact that this stuff was in the game years ago or had been asked to be included in the game for so long that they are fed up.

After being told after said request "we dont have time", "we have maxxed out this engine or hardware", blah blah blah! And then we get it on the same hardware all of this was said to have been the reason for it not being in the game, is a slap in our faces.

To some of us it is a slap in the face and we see it as the devs were just not caring enough to put it in the game or give us any other type of indication besides what I mentioned above as to the reasoning behind it not being there at all.

Im in the boat of trying to have everything in the game that belongs in their from the start, then the process of elimination or tweaking shall begin. it just seems like EA doesnt even try to incorporate all of the nuances in the game before they start dismissing them from the game itself!

But there's your answer from my perspective, and the fact that most of us are getting a lil too old and been waiting yr after yr for that major upgrade thats not gonna come.

But these features are great to see and hear about but I will be waitiing from some true hands on impressions from people who know whats up.

[LastExit]

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I WANT it to be good and see all enhancements actually do what they say they will. But I'm just going to take a wait and see approach this year. No more buying into the hype for me.

Ditto....I've been playing this game for a decade and always got the game as soon as it came out but this year I'm going to wait and see what the final product actually looks like. I don't remember when EA sent the first patch last year but I'd like to wait for that to go through for this game.

Great summaries of the first two podcast reveals. I wish they would have a podcast titled "Goodbye to all of that" where they show the bugs that they have corrected (audio of crowd swells out of sync during kickoffs......players rolling the ball forward on the ground after a play is over out of sync.......defenders still getting caught offsides during a hurry-up offense.....etc.).

[unfriendlyghst]

These improvements are a welcome sight for sore eyes and hopefully this is the begining of the implimentation of real football scenarios.

One thing that I heard the Devs say a few times in the gameplay live stream was, "It just didn't look realistic (so we got rid of it and replaced it with ____)" I really like the sound of that and I know that these things maybe said every year but still good to hear.

[The_Gaming_Disciple]

To all the EA developers who scan these boards...please...please...read and comprehend carefully. Your true hardcore game fans have lost confidence in you. Your stock is continuously falling and reaching new lows on the market. Your exclusive rights deal is soon coming to an end. The competition is lurking...your NBA Elite...aka Jesus pose moment is coming sooner than you think...you will be forced to scrap this engine and start all over...face the music...or repeat the demise that was NBA Elite.

"These words have been spoken, so that those who hear might believe"

[Boilerbuzz]

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The two I think of are the 5- and 7-step dropbacks and the trajectories. These are just basic football pieces that should have always been in the game, so it makes it a little frustrating to read about.

Frustration. Thank you. I couldn't put my finger on the emotion. Anyone else feel that these "enhancements" would have already been in the game 6 or 7 years ago if there was competition in the market? I'm just saying that these don't have to be new, but they should have LONG been in the game already and there is enough brainpower in Florida to have gotten this done already. A blueprint was already out there for them to work with and they chose not to do it.

With that said, I'm glad SOME movement is being made in this regard and I will consider, finally, getting a football game this year. But I need a bigger draw. These should have been icing. Not the cake.

[Boilerbuzz]

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These improvements are a welcome sight for sore eyes and hopefully this is the begining of the implimentation of real football scenarios.

One thing that I heard the Devs say a few times in the gameplay live stream was, "It just didn't look realistic (so we got rid of it and replaced it with ____)" I really like the sound of that and I know that these things maybe said every year but still good to hear.

Frankly, I don't care if something *looks* realistic. If it *is* realistic, the looks will naturally follow suit. Nothing should go into the game that doesn't start from that premise of being realistic at the foundation. This was my problem with EA football and NBA Elite was a prime example of their current (apparent) philosophy and how it can go horribly wrong. In terms of football, if they implemented a REAL ball physics engine, the trajectories should not have to be baked or predetermined! So, I still have an issue with that part. Of course it doesn't need to be a full Navier-Stokes evaluation. But something close would have been great. The current platforms are MORE than capable and it baffles me why they have yet to do some of these things. This *look* thing has me worried about the QB dropbacks. It's not just LOOKS. There's a point to the dropbacks and if they didn't approach this from THAT element, the dropbacks will be worthless.

I'm still looking for realistic defensive play structure, line-interactions, double team, etc...

[tbook24]

their is no 5 yard bump rule in college football. i want to see that nano blitz stuff worked on because it really takes away from football strategy