Madden NFL 13 Video - Replay Footage and Packers vs. Bears Pre-Game (Pastapadre)

[tanner75]

Re: Madden NFL 13 Video - Replay Footage and Packers vs. Bears Pre-Game (Pastapadre)

Now we have Nantz talking about HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE lol . Seriously, i hope there is more variety in the commentary, still not convinced yet.

[ghettogeeksta]

Re: Madden 13 Replay Footage and Pre-Game (Packers vs Bears) thanks to Pastapadre

it looks like a different company is making this game because this is looking really good. they must have replaced quite a few people.

You need glasses if you think this game looks like a different company made it.

Understand that game trailers are like movie trailers, the previews always look good.

[raidertiger]

Re: Madden NFL 13 Video - Replay Footage and Packers vs. Bears Pre-Game (Pastapadre)

There's no fight for the ball, it's just what animation triggers first. My only real concern.

[ghettogeeksta]

Re: Madden NFL 13 Video - Replay Footage and Packers vs. Bears Pre-Game (Pastapadre)

There's no fight for the ball, it's just what animation triggers first. My only real concern.

QFT, its just predetermined canned animations depending on where the ball is located, the defender nor receiver have any idea where the ball is at, they just hope it lands in their hand. This type of thing goes on in every aspect of the game infortunatly.

[kingsofthevalley]

Looks pretty good.

[LambertandHam]

Re: Madden NFL 13 Video - Replay Footage and Packers vs. Bears Pre-Game (Pastapadre)

Like the new touches, but "Hello Friends" will become my new "Reese's Peanut Butter Cups" by the third week of the season.

[Dynastium]

What the hell is Victor Cruz doing? That's not a salsa dance, that's a... seizure...

[mjhyankees]

Re: Madden 13 Replay Footage and Pre-Game (Packers vs Bears) thanks to Pastapadre

It looks like to me Harper is looking at the QB, not the receiver though. That's why he reacts so quickly to the pass, imo.

Look at it again, he is playing off and looking at the QB maybe in zone coverage.

Even so his reaction is too quick. In real life given his position (behind the wr) the receiver gets a step or two on him with the cut. No human could make that cut that fast unless he knew the wr was going to cut there.

that said, I like the look so far. I will give credit to EA for this....they are making the game better each year. Some will complain that its too slow a progression but still it's progress. I love the Nance-Sims team....I'm worried that we will hear the exact same opening for every intradivision game. Hope not.....really, all they have to do is record more lines...how much memory could that take. If they have, say, 5 comments on divisional games that they use over and over (instead of one - and yes I'd like more than 5) at least I'd never know what was coming.

[Moegames]

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Looking decent..i love some of the new cut scenes put in there..i just hope there are enough to make them feel unique throughout the season..that is the key.

I also hope they put in some kind of button tapping to break out of tackles and to tackle..at least an option to use that feature.

Holding my breath on the commentary though...

Cant really determine much from this short clip though but its better than nothing and its looking decent.

[mrprice33]

With regards to pre-alpha, beta, etc people need to realize that basically going from alpha to ready to ship means that you're getting a ton of polish and getting rid of bugs. There's going to be some tuning here and there but the core
mechanics/gameplay will be the same in pre-alpha as it will be for release, which is going to be basically (mechanically) what we've seen this gen of EA football. If you're expecting sweeping changes from year to year you're going to always be disappointed. It's an iterative process.

[Big FN Deal]

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Even so his reaction is too quick. In real life given his position (behind the wr) the receiver gets a step or two on him with the cut. No human could make that cut that fast unless he knew the wr was going to cut there.

that said, I like the look so far. I will give credit to EA for this....they are making the game better each year. Some will complain that its too slow a progression but still it's progress. I love the Nance-Sims team....I'm worried that we will hear the exact same opening for every intradivision game. Hope not.....really, all they have to do is record more lines...how much memory could that take. If they have, say, 5 comments on divisional games that they use over and over (instead of one - and yes I'd like more than 5) at least I'd never know what was coming.

When Madden 12 first came out, I created a thread asking if watching football made people give Madden more credit. The reason was, a lot of things I was quick to holler bs for I later saw to be much more realistic than what I initially realized.

To the bold, when looking at this short youtube clip, I disagree with the bold and think people are getting caught up in the choppiness of the video, not the actual play.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdj2C...eature=related

I will be the first to state and have plenty times that for me, the issue in EA football games in terms of movement, seems to be transitional animations, if there are such things. Young talked about motion blur and how it's not really something that jumps out at you when present but it helps everything look more natural. I think that same principle applies to certain player movement in Madden as well. Not motion blur specifically but a missing animation frame(s) that make a player movement or action seem like bs, when it was actually realistic but just played out poorly.

To me the devs biggest job every year is cleaning up that stuff, removing warping, clipping and adding in those missing transitional animations. One of my biggest issues is with zig-zag running that Taz always talks about but the problem seems to be with there being no transitional animation for going from the zig to the zag, lol. When looking at NFL video, ball carriers can make quick cuts and jukes but they are fluidly strung together, not instant like the strobe light effect of Madden.

[Bulls321974]

Hope they fix those throwing motions. None of them really looked spot on to me. I especially hated Drew Brees first throw from the 3 step drop where it looks like he kept two hands on the ball through the entire windup. Looks more like Madden 08 to me. And Alex Smith's second throw on that crossing out, his release looks as quick as Marino's.

I did like that they're trying to integrate more footwork and guys stepping into throws to drive the ball, but the pocket stuff doesn't look player specific to me yet.

Could't agree more...

[Bulls321974]

You must be new here.

We see pre-alpha and are told it's pre-alpha.

Then we see the same thing in Beta, and are told it's just beta.

We are told to wait for E3 and then are told E3 is a much older build than they have right now.

We are told to wait for the demo, but it's still almost the same... or at least the core complaints are still there... but it's just the demo.

It's time to wait for the retail copy, but and it is very similar to the pre-alpha, but we are told to wait for a patch or two, or three... and next thing we know Madden 11... I mean 12... I mean 13 is about to come out.

Yet, after all of that, even with the minor improvements here and there, it is still the same game in MANY other ways.

I agree with others that the foot planting in Madden 10 is actually better than Madden 12. I still have M10, M11 and M12 and can compare. While M12 is the best Madden on this generation, and may be one of the best Madden's they have put out, it STILL isn't nearly as good as it could or should be.

I am not asking for the impossible. I am not asking for too much. I am asking for things that have already been done, in other football games.

What has REALLY changed in the game play from Madden 09 to Madden 12?

When I think about it, all I can really point to are options like game speed/sliders, how tackling works has changed, and how run blocking works. Also, the visual presentation was improved last year and looks like it has continued to improve this year.

I can't comment on the passing game, but in motion the game still moves like Madden. It is still choppy and robotic with animations and reactions that don't pass the eye test. Heck ,the QB mechanics are still god awful and unrealistic. I'm sure body language still doesn't really matter. I'm sure a defender who is a complete stop in zone, or going one way can change direction and keep up with a receiver who is running an In route over the middle.

Too many people are happy with the "it's just a video game" line and actually DON'T want more authentic game play. There are people who love how casual and arcade-ish Madden is.

Why should I write all that much when you already did all that for me? That's exactly how I am thinking about the "Madden" topic...

[jpdavis82]

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Like the new touches, but "Hello Friends" will become my new "Reese's Peanut Butter Cups" by the third week of the season.

Well it's what he says before every game in real life, so blame him

[jpdavis82]

Re: Madden NFL 13 Video - Replay Footage and Packers vs. Bears Pre-Game (Pastapadre)

All I'm going to say is I'm very impressed with what I have seen so far, my expectations were realistic and they have exceeded them by quite a bit. If you pay attention at all to the devs you would have already known that this wasn't the year for physics, they talk about it every interview. They are holding off on physics until they can get it to work the way it should and not end up with us having madden 13 fail videos like we do backbreaker fail or fifa or nba elite fail videos all over youtube.

Once they figure out how to do physics the right way, which no one has really been able to do so far, then you will see them in Madden. Other than that, I think they are doing a great job and have really gone out of their way to work on gameplay this year. The fact that they are doing 2 webcasts for gameplay should prove that, and no it will not just be about kinect, that I guarantee you. You can mark this down and come back June 4th if you want, the monumental change is something else, not kinect.

Here's a conversation I saw about it yesterday between a fan and a community day member

Fan: a day after the hyperbole of "monumental change to gameplay that will blur the line between virtual and reality"?

Shopmaster:Fact, not opinion. Gotta stay tuned June 4th.