Madden NFL 13 Video - Replay Footage and Packers vs. Bears Pre-Game (Pastapadre)

[noplace]

Re: Madden NFL 13 Video - Replay Footage and Packers vs. Bears Pre-Game (Pastapadre)

I can see what EA is attempting to do in terms of improvements but I have to say player movement and physics still look horrible IMO. I still see sliding and warping, nothing looks fluid & of course player interactions still look bad. This game could be beautiful if EA just figured out how to bring it to "life" it looks and places arcadish & offers nothing organic to be considered a true simulation.

Maybe it will look better at a slower speed… IDK Looks like the same game with just minor improvements to player positioning but with the same sliding, warping, suctioning, robotic game play… Early build? Yes….. Huge changes to retail? Doubt it…. What you normally see is what you’ll get. Its EA

[jpdavis82]

Re: Madden NFL 13 Video - Replay Footage and Packers vs. Bears Pre-Game (Pastapadre)

I can see what EA is attempting to do in terms of improvements but I have to say player movement and physics still look horrible IMO. I still see sliding and warping, nothing looks fluid & of course player interactions still look bad. This game could be beautiful if EA just figured out how to bring it to "life" it looks and places arcadish & offers nothing organic to be considered a true simulation.

Maybe it will look better at a slower speed… IDK Looks like the same game with just minor improvements to player positioning but with the same sliding, warping, suctioning, robotic game play… Early build? Yes….. Huge changes to retail? Doubt it…. What you normally see is what you’ll get. Its EA

I'm not saying you're wrong because based on the past you are right, but this is not what you normally see. Like they said yesterday they usually don't show the game this early in development. Usually the first time we see it is around E3, which is in June.

[BezO]

Re: Madden 13 Replay Footage and Pre-Game (Packers vs Bears) thanks to Pastapadre

Not much to say about the vid that hasn't already been said. Thanks for saving me some time PG. Much easier to just like everything you said.

no one will every give EA any credit ...even when you see such good improvement on a pre alpha. geez lighting up

@ultralow36 ur right no matter what they do 2 improve the game some people wont accept it

if madden was NFL2K13 and had the same flaws SOME people would be calling it the best game ever just because they see 2K

I see neither of you post here much, but this is the type of passive aggressive, immature nonsense that moves threads towards being locked. Have some respect for people's opinions. If you're happy with the imrpvoements, excellent. But don't insult folks that don't feel the same.

Many here are pretty good at expressing & explaining themselves. I bet if you address someone directly, they'd be happy to tell you why they're not as impressed as you.

[jfsolo]

Re: Madden 13 Replay Footage and Pre-Game (Packers vs Bears) thanks to Pastapadre

Too many people are happy with the "it's just a video game" line and actually DON'T want more authentic game play. There are people who love how casual and arcade-ish Madden is.

To say that people, here at OS especially, "DON'T want more authentic game play" is simply disingenuous. People don't come here, day after day, for years on end, happy to see the gameplay not measure up to other sports video games that exist.

Still purchasing the game and being able to find some enjoyment in it, as well as not being Terminator-like in relentless critique of the games' flaws, in no way, shape, or form, means that the we don't have the same fervent desire for an exponential improvement in how the game plays.

Yes, some go too far in criticizing the criticizers, but the criticizers often go to far in criticizing those who they think are "settling".

[Senator Palmer]

Re: Madden NFL 13 Video - Replay Footage and Packers vs. Bears Pre-Game (Pastapadre)

Could't agree more...

I'm not going to jump to any conclusions after just this, but with the additions of the new dropbacks, re-doing how a QB torques his hips and lower body to throw the ball, I REALLY hope they didn't go away from signature throwing motions. While they weren't perfect, I was hoping they would continue to be tweaked.

[roadman]

Re: Madden 13 Replay Footage and Pre-Game (Packers vs Bears) thanks to Pastapadre

Not much to say about the vid that hasn't already been said. Thanks for saving me some time PG. Much easier to just like everything you said.
I see neither of you post here much, but this is the type of passive aggressive, immature nonsense that moves threads towards being locked. Have some respect for people's opinions. If you're happy with the imrpvoements, excellent. But don't insult folks that don't feel the same.

Many here are pretty good at expressing & explaining themselves. I bet if you address someone directly, they'd be happy to tell you why they're not as impressed as you.

Bezo

Have you seen this?

Thoughts?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34POVrez_ew&feature=youtu.be&t=1m30s

[ultralow36]

Not much to say about the vid that hasn't already been said. Thanks for saving me some time PG. Much easier to just like everything you said.
I see neither of you post here much, but this is the type of passive aggressive, immature nonsense that moves threads towards being locked. Have some respect for people's opinions. If you're happy with the imrpvoements, excellent. But don't insult folks that don't feel the same.

Many here are pretty good at expressing & explaining themselves. I bet if you address someone directly, they'd be happy to tell you why they're not as impressed as you.

edit: forget it no need in trying



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[tril]

ok I hate the animated announcers. I never liked that in any game on the current gen consoles. why dont they use the actual announcers, use them at the intro like they do in this video and then cut to the regular cutscenes while they continue their discussion about the upcoming game.
other than that the game looks promising, but I promised myself this year that I will not fall for the hype.

[jmood88]

Re: Madden NFL 13 Video - Replay Footage and Packers vs. Bears Pre-Game (Pastapadre)

The route running animations still look awful.

[BezO]

Re: Madden 13 Replay Footage and Pre-Game (Packers vs Bears) thanks to Pastapadre

Bezo

Have you seen this?

Thoughts?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34POV...utu.be&t=1m30s

Did see it.

I can't speak on it without addressing how the vid starts though. The kick returner zig zagging up the field kills it for me. I have a short list of game killers, and that's one of them.

As for the topic of the vid, I dig how the tackle in progress is influenced by the 2nd defender coming it. The pile cutting out the legs of the 2 other Steelers also looked promising. I'm curious to see if the engagement from the 2nd defender is consistent, and how many additional defenders can influence the momentum.

[BezO]

Re: Madden NFL 13 Video - Replay Footage and Packers vs. Bears Pre-Game (Pastapadre)

so what you're saying is I need to bash it to fit in...I can't have my on view...because I don't post a lot....OK thanks....I don't post a lot because when you say hey I think that was pretty cool I get 10 others posters telling me I don't know about football...when in fact I know a lot more than most and have played real life ball...



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What? Go back & read what I said. Better yet, let me rephrase.

There are some tried & true methods on OS:

1)Stick to opinions of the game, not the OS members. There are a wide variety of opinions here. Being respecful & constructive is how you fit in.
2)If you disagree with someone, quote them (or not) and address them directly. Be respectful. Most will be happy to engage in dialog. That's what we come here for.

What never works & will start e-fights more times than not:

1)Insulting people and/or their opinions.
2)Passive, indirect insults that lump OS members together like we're attached at the hip.

[Bulls321974]

I'm not going to jump to any conclusions after just this, but with the additions of the new dropbacks, re-doing how a QB torques his hips and lower body to throw the ball, I REALLY hope they didn't go away from signature throwing motions. While they weren't perfect, I was hoping they would continue to be tweaked.

No EA bashing, but I have to say I've lost faith in them a couple of years ago

[roadman]

Re: Madden 13 Replay Footage and Pre-Game (Packers vs Bears) thanks to Pastapadre

Did see it.

I can't speak on it without addressing how the vid starts though. The kick returner zig zagging up the field kills it for me. I have a short list of game killers, and that's one of them.

As for the topic of the vid, I dig how the tackle in progress is influenced by the 2nd defender coming it. The pile cutting out the legs of the 2 other Steelers also looked promising. I'm curious to see if the engagement from the 2nd defender is consistent, and how many additional defenders can influence the momentum.

Oh yeah, I agree.

Even in the video, Gedden mentioned about the zig zagging and foot planting.

[spankdatazz22]

Re: Madden NFL 13 Video - Replay Footage and Packers vs. Bears Pre-Game (Pastapadre)

Like they said yesterday they usually don't show the game this early in development. Usually the first time we see it is around E3, which is in June.

That's why I don't understand why they're showing so much so early at this point. My theory is that they (Tiburon) are very impressed with what they've done and are showing it, while wanting to also take advantage of the heightened interest the NFL Draft brings. I give them all the credit in the world for giving out so much info so early. But this isn't like Battlefield 3, where Dice put out pre-alpha video that displayed serious technology improvements that sent the hype train into overdrive for that game. The improvements Tiburon's making seem to be more along the lines of common-sense improvements - which I don't know why they'd choose to hype them. Unless they truly exist in a vacuum and don't realize how sports games have evolved, or acknowlege where football games have been previously. Also disappointed that they more than doubled the development team yet it didn't yield them taking a more comprehensive approach to improving the game, where every gameplay facet received a facelift. Instead it's the same outside/in approach of focusing on the skill positions and little attention given to the OL/DL play, versus an inside/out approach that while not as exciting makes more sense long term. I'm sure they've made improvements to the OL/DL on some level, but it'd be nice to see the less glamorous aspects of the gameplay be given as much attention as the QB/WR play received and addressed sooner rather than later. To that end it doesn't seem like things have changed; they always seem like the team that refuses to draft an offensive lineman because they're normally not sexy picks.

Still I do think they're at least making common sense improvements this year. The improvements to the QB and WR play are much needed. And I like the changes to the defensive backs and finally getting the ability to disguise coverages. And the presentation improvements were also much needed.

[Profit89]

The movements look very organic in that video. For the most part.